March 2016 - I can't think of a pithy title because I'm too sleep deprived :/

[DomesticAnarchist]

New thread?
Sorry, really couldn't think of something humorous!

Good luck Time, DS went in his own room 3 weeks ago and it's improved both of our sleep massively. I no longer wake when he stirs slightly and he manages to self soothe a lot of the time. We've gone from 2-3 wake ups a night to none or 1. I know C wakes up a lot more than that but hopefully it will get you down to a manageable number!

We got a jumperoo today in the Amazon Prime Day sale! Reduced to £55. I think DS is going to love it. I know what you mean though about space, we currently have the bouncy chair and baby gym/play mat permanently out in the lounge, DS also has an inflatable play chair which I try to return to his room when he's finished with it and now the jumperoo ... the house is being taken over!

Purple, MrsE, Maybe I'm not a million miles away from you either, but more central Kent.

Time I really want to put J into his own room too but I'm struggling to get DP to move his desk/pc etc out of the nursery and into our top bedroom, so we can build the cot. I can't get the desk up the stairs on my own. Going to have to apply more pressure I think. Hope tonight goes well with C.

Good bargain hunting Me!

Funny that a few of us are close by! Screams here before bed, bloody injections. They were so much worse than the normal bed screams. We've just woken her to feed and have the calpol top up and I hope she goes back to sleep ok.

I brought E a slumber buddy elephant night light as it was half price on Amazon. I'm laying here as dh changes her nappy with the bedroom ceiling filled with blue stars. It's actually quite calming! Think I like it more than her.

Time good luck tonight.

Oh dear I wish I'd forgotten about prime day! We got our jumperoo virtually new for £30 on eBay but bought a version of the bouncy chair we were lent that goes to toddler age as well so I'm just going to line them all up (well will return original bouncy chair to owner but..) also bought a Sophie giraffe a few other bits and a Christmas present for stepmum yikes I'll forget about it purple we have the slumber bee and it has actually helped on a couple of evening meltdowns but wow do those tunes get annoying!

Time cute pictures good luck tonight!

Wow vroc good shopping I meant to buy a Sophie the giraffe too but forgot and they were all gone by the time I remembered!

The acrobatics DS does in his cot at night never cease to amaze me. I put him to bed with his feet at the bottom of the cot as per guidelines (although he has sleeping bags so no blankets to wriggle under). This is how he woke up this morning

Haha me love the acrobatics, dd2 is the same, a wriggly little thing!

Dd2 is 18 weeks tomorrow and i think either is still unsettled from our weekend away or has hit the four month sleep regression. Wakes at 10, 12, 2, 4 and 5 last night 😢 ended up bringing her into bed with me, and then dd2 woke me up at 6. She's currently downstairs watching Dora whilst i try to wake myself up with a cup of tea and dd2 sleeps soundly beside me little git. Im not sure what to do as last night i just fed her back to sleep each time which ideally i wouldn't want to do as means she won't feed much today and may wake more at night. If dh were here id get him to settle her without milk but he's not back till next Tuesday 😭

ftm if you don't feel ready to wean yet I'd say try to hold off until you want to. That might end up being sooner than you think but if its your decision you'll feel much happier. I'm fully expecting my mil to pressure me again to wean early but am hoping to stand my ground this time...

I had a look at prime day yesterday but honestly couldn't be arsed to look through the deals. I did spend about an hour on/off during the day browsing but had nothing in mind that i wanted since we have a jumperoo already. And YY to everyone saying the toys take over the house - now we've got two kids its even worse!

Sympathies for the crap sleep marmite. I usually get one three hour stretch, then up every 2 hours. Sometimes 1. DS, usually a good daytime napper, was a nightmare napper all day yesterday (we're away from home atm which he doesn't cope well with) and took me ages to get him down for the night. I always give him a bottle of EBM at his 10/11pm wake to get him to take a big feed as he's such a snacker, but last night I put in 3oz of ready made formula plus 5oz breast milk to see if it made him sleep a bit longer. He guzzled down the lot. I got 4 hours out of him which is only about an hour more than usual so not sure it made a huge difference.

I'm finding myself not sure if he's feeding so much at night for comfort or out of genuine hunger. I feed him because it's an easy way to get him back to sleep but I feel like I'm encouraging his waking now by doing this. I have tried to use the dummy to resettle but he refuses it which is what makes me think it might be genuine hunger, as during the day he doesn't comfort suck at the breast at all, just uses the dummy.

Thoughts?

maybe I've got the same wondering about T and the night feeds, though no dummy. I've started trying to pat her back to sleep and only feeding if she actually cries. Seems to work about 1 in 2 or 3 goes, but I wake up a lot more than when I just whap out a boob and go back to sleep myself (all night feeds are lying down side by side).

It does seem worth it, though, she's back to only a couple of wakings to feed. Last night I think it was 12:30, 4, and up at 6 with a massive poo, her favourite way to start the day!

I bought a jumperoo too. Our living room is so cluttered....

Has anyone used one of these ?
Would it be ok to put a piece or cucumber in their and let dd chew/suck on it ?

Also re Calais' being in her own room.
We settled at 8:30.
She woke at 11 for 5oz
3 for 3.5oz
4 for her dummy
6 for 5oz
Back down for 7 until 9 when I had to wake her to leave for Jo jingles for the first time. Was very disappointed... I tried making small talk with the other women but no one wanted to walk. It was like their own little clique had formed

Time it's the same here with baby groups it's like they have their own circle and aren't too keen on talking to others and "allowing" them in as such.

Glad I'm not the only one.
Dd fell asleep to half way through it.
She's slept 12-3:30 today to... once i come home I felt really bored having her asleep... can't have it both ways though

She has also started properly laughing at me now

I haven't bothered with baby groups this time round as i found with dd1 people were cliquey and it was just a bit depressing!

Proper nap refusing here today, dd2 had a lovely morning nap till 11 but then stayed awake till 4.15 and woke up at 4.45! Its going to be a long night i think...

Hard day for E here, the men b jab really knocked her. She has slept or cried. Luckily as of about 4pm she suddenly perked up. So glad no more jabs for a long while.

Time we had one of those for ds but to be honest it was a bit of a faff and turned into some gooey netty mess with food in it. If you are going to do finger food I think just go for it. How old is C now? I know they say wait for 6 months for finger food but I can't remember why. My book came yesterday so I can tell you soon.

I know what you all mean about baby groups too. I found the same last time but I did get lonely so this time I am forcing myself to go and am making myself be ultra confident and speaking to everyone. I probably look like a nutter.

I have met two or three lovely women from baby groups - looking at all your comments here I must be very lucky!!

V difficult day here - DS is a teething grouch. I can see the tooth poking through now so it must be really hurting him. Anyone know how long it will take to come through properly?

I was hoping to meet mums here as I only moved here 4 years ago and don't have many friends here other than work friends or family. There's a baby sensory group on tomorrow I haven't tried so might give that a go...
Awful day here could have cried! He has been hard all week really but today has got to me just constant crying nothing will stop him! Just took me an hour to Rock him to sleep as been proper nap refusing today not ideal for a nap this time but he doesn't tend to go to sleep for the night until 10 anyways so hopefully won't make a difference. House is a state as haven't been able to give it the time to sort it with DS constantly screaming!
Never wanted a glass of wine so much in my life
Although it does sound like something must be in the air with some of you struggling with miserable babies too... for us all!!

Argh, I wrote a post but it's gone.

Anyway.

Sympathy marmite. As with maybe, I'd feed to sleep as it's the only way to maximise sleep for everyone. Replacing a dummy would end in more waking for everyone. DS1 eventually grew out of night feeds and night waking.

Time my personal opinion of those things is that they're gross and if a baby is ready for solids you can just give finger foods. I think (and I'll have to consult the Jill Rapley book) their gag reflex on the tongue gradually moves back towards the throat. (The gag reflex initially stops them choking, but gets in the way of eating finger food) so after 6 months they're better able to self-feed finger food. If a baby is ready to eat they don't need the net thing. If they need the net thing, they shouldn't be having solids.

Pumping at work is going ok. I've managed to melt a bit of the pump in the microwave steriliser but it still works! My colleagues have worked out why I keep disappearing and are very supportively asking if I feel I've expressed myself well etc! I've run out of BM bags, however, and discovered that nowhere in a 25 mile radius sells them.

Now, ranty old me is now offended that in my town women are not supported to continue BFing and/or supported/encouraged to return to work. I may be making a bit of a big deal out of it! And boots have ordered bags for DH to collect tomorrow.

Meanwhile, DH is doing a sterling SAHD role. He's worked out he can warm BM to body temp by putting the bag in his pocket!

Maybe I should convince him to go part time?!

Glad pumping is going well Dom and your DH is enjoying being a SAHD! My dh really loved it though he said he couldn't have done it for more than six months (he did it for three).

My sympathies ftm as dd2 has also been nap refusing today - was awake from 11 till 4.15 then only slept for half an hour! I ended up doing her bath when I got back from picking up dd1 from nursery and i put her to bed at 6! Think tonight will be another write off. Oh well. 6 days till dh is back...

maybe if the tooth is poking through it usually means the end is in sight (another day or so). Could explain the bad sleep recently (fx!).

I have met a lovely group of mums but we all met at pregnancy yoga and have been good at meeting up now we've all had our babies. Haven't really been to any other baby things yet and most things stop over the summer but am hoping to go to baby sensory in September.

I go to loads of baby groups and luckily I've found lots of friendly mums. Only a few who I've clicked enough with to meet up outside of the groups but I also did NCT and have lots of friends from the pre-baby era who all had babies at the same time. Worth trying a few more times Time as sometimes I find people take a little while to warm up.

DS had his last set of jabs today which was pretty traumatic, the first two sets he didn't cry that much but these ones he really screamed 😢 Heartbreaking. No temp or anything so far and he's just had his second dose of calpol so hopefully he'll be ok and we won't have a rough night.

Wow maybe a tooth already! Can't see any of ds's yet but he's doing a lot of chewing. I bought him a new water filled teether yesterday and he promptly threw it out of the pram somewhere on a walk today! I couldn't be bothered to go out again and look for it but might try tomorrow just in case it's still on the pavement somewhere!

Fx marmite but I'm not that optimistic!!!

dom so impressed that you're working.

Sorry to hear that ftm, they can be such buggers sometimes can't they! DS wasn't screaming today as such but was exceptionally tetchy and very shouty all day because of his tooth. Sophie the bloody giraffe has done sod all and neither has bonjela. I did give him calpol before bed so hopefully that helps with the pain. Also have Anbesol and baby neurofen in my arsenal if calpol does bog all!

ftm where in the country are you?
dom sounds like your dh has got himself all sorted - as long as one doesn't split in his pocket that is.
time Calais looks adorable in her walker, and really not impressed by that spoon haha.
maybe hope teething doesn't go on too long for you!

We had 16 week jabs today, they've affected R terribly. Screamed or slept most of the day and just screamed himself to sleep on me now al la tree frog. He's whimpering in his sleep too temp has been at 37.9. How long do you allow temp for/screamyness before thinking it's not right? He's just had a calpol. Jabs were at 10:30 and he had calpol at 11, 4:30 and just now (only reason for long gap earlier was because he was asleep) he's barely eaten today too.

Yeah he's definitely being a bugger today he's still awake hoping a feed and he will be down for the night roll on getting our evenings back jealous of those of you whose babies go down at an earlier time.

Q- I would personally wait until the morning and if temp still high maybe ring docs for advise but we haven't experienced temp with jabs so maybe someone else might be able to advise better.
I'm in Hampshire

I just did the same as Dom and wrote a long post thén lost it before I could press send. So annoying. Anyway...

Yy to trying baby groups a few times (and maybe a few different ones Time and anyone else who hasn't had luck with them so far. I've only been to one and and everyone knew each other from other groups and I didn't really fit in with them anyway but I managed to find a really lovely group of mums when ds1 was a baby and it made mat leave/being a ftm a lot less lonely and scary. So I'm persevering with the baby groups until I find my people .

Q the first 24 hrs was really bad with ds2 when he had his first set of jabs and then he had a big sleep and was fine the next day, so hopefully things will be better in the morning. Is the calpol bringing the temp down? Calpol wouldnt bring ds' temp down but baby ibuprofen was much better. Dreading the 16 week jabs.

Glad you're settling in back at work ok Dom. Sounds like your Dh is doing well too!

maybe ime of the only baby I've gone through this teething stuff with - all the teeth come through quite quickly after they have cut through the gum (except the molars which take bloody ages) and the bit before they cut through is the worst bit then it all calms down a lot. BUT teeth tend to come in pairs so you might have a second one coming through soon. Also they look super cute when they get the first 2 teeth . I thought I could see signs of teeth appearing in ds' gums today but he wouldn't let me peer into his mouth long enough to inspect properly!

Time my honest opinion is that the net things are fairly pointless. When they're ready to be weaned you can just give them the piece of food and they will mush it up themselves for free .

Q I gave E more calpol today nearly 24 hours after her jabs for a 37.7 temp. I know it's not incredibly high but she always has a temp of around 36.4. She had her jabs at 1pm yesterday and was really out of sorts until about 4pm today. We also had screaming/whimpering to sleep last night for nearly an hour.