March 2016 Babies Thread #11 - We've got smiley babies, screaming babies and farty babies!

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This time last year....my nephew was days away from being born, I was planning a wedding and looking forward to that holiday.....little did I know that I would fly home with a little souvenir

It sounds like it could be wind, E has been like this in the past and it's so frustrating. Feeding her was hard work with all the grunting, it was like she was hungry but couldn't fit it in. We've had a few weeks of calmness though apart from evenings which I think is the gripe water. Is it worth looking at detinox? I've not tried it but I know it was recommended on here before.

Aargh what is dh doing?? He was away for work for 5 days last week and C started sleeping till 5am quite consistently, a little stir at 3am but Ewan the sheep sorts that out. Today she stirs at 3.20, I pop the sheep on and go to the loo only to come back to find dh loudly rustling nappy sacks to get ready for a change and C now fully awake. I ushered him back to bed but it was too late

MrsElls DH is the same...I don't talk to M other than to quietly soothe her during her night feeds and changes. DH on the other hand chatters away and then wonders why she's wide awake!

M has her jabs on Wednesday and I'm dreading them. Last time M was awful for the rest of the day, I've got my fingers crossed that this lot will be easier.

& for everyone.

Maybe Sorry to hear your little one is unsettled, DS was unsettled yday too straggly sounded a lot like your post including the bath wtc, he then went out like a light but not until 10/30 and he's only just woken up!! Longest time he's gone since born and biggest chunk of sleep we've had at once I feel a new women!! Was probably a fluke but whatever it was it was nicehowever I did order Ewan the dream sheep and it arrived yday and we used it for the first time so maybe he's worked wonders!
Thinking of those with upcoming jabs, hope all goes ok fur you!! Xx

For all of you with jabs upcoming Baby E had them yesterday afternoon and has had an unprecedented 6.5h stretch of sleep between feeds so there is an upside. She screamed blue murder when they were done but was happily murmering before we left the consulting room. The evening was a bit painful though, unsettled, crying and feeding poorly (hard to suck and cry at the same time). DH's baby whispering skills came to the fore though as he'd had only 3h sleep the night before (entirely self inflicted - watching Game of Thrones!) we were a bit crotchety with each other.

Bad night last night. Sound asleep 7-midnight, up for a feed, back down again for 3 hours but couldn't bloody sleep as he was so grunty and trashy. Fed again, eventually managed an hour and a half but I'm so upset as for the past two weeks he's only woken once in the night at about 4am and I thought we'd turned the corner but the past two nights have been shit

He just did the most enormous poo though which I hope will help his discomfort as he didn't go once yesterday and I think it was really bugging him.

☕️ for the bad nights sleep maybe

Me and DP went out last night so my mammy stayed over to look after G. I had pumped bottles but was absolutely bricking it that he would refuse but my mum knows what's she's doing and he was fine. I was a bit of a wreck and had a cry in the bar! I was laughing too so at least to onlookers it didn't look like DP was breaking up with me or anything 😄
We talked about how breastfeeding seems to be getting worse not better and DP was lovely about it, saying if I need to do every other feed as a bottle of so on then j should just do it. He's so chilled out about it all and I'm an anxious Annie.
Anywho, the gig was ace (Joy Formidable if anyone listens to them!) and we got home about half eleven and I sat and had a brew whilst pumping eight ounces from the boobs. 😮 Had to chuck them right down the sink though.

Q I'll have a go at some of these shred workouts (with the lights off and curtains closed!)

Swear adorable photos 🙂

Just done Gs morning feed and am catching up on snuggles.

First we have Ewan the Dream Sheep. I'm not convinced that M is affected by him (DH on the other hand...) but I am determined to get her into some kind of night time routine. She sleeps so much better after a bath (I add 2 drops of lavender oil to her bath which works wonders). We probably have two or three nights a week where she sleeps 10.30 - 5.00. I'm living in hope that they all end up like that very soon!

French I have devised a Calpol plan for tomorrow... M's jabs are at 1.30 so I will be able to give her a dose then, another one at 6 and then just before bed. Last time she was so upset poor little sausage I hope she's like your LO this time.

Maybe M has had 2 EPIC nappies. She didn't poo on Saturday which is unusual. Then on Sunday her bum just erupted DH valiantly dealt with the aftermath. She did a similar one yesterday and has been fine ever since. It can't be comfortable for them. I know I feel dreadful if I get like that.

Morning everyone :)

Calais has her second (12 week jabs) this morning. Feeling really tearful about it. I hated seeing/hearing her screaming when the needles went in last time. Poor little mites must be horrible as they don't know it's coming. I hate thinking that she's probably scared and wondering why it's hurting :(. Paper- fingers crossed for you tomorrow as well and anyone else and their babies who are due theirs soon.
No oh to come with me this time either as he couldn't get the time off and theirs no one else to come with me today.
At least their is no men b this time.
C is now 13 weeks. How did that happen?! And despite being very hard work is undoubtedly the best thing that's ever happened to me.
She is still a bad sleeper. So oh and I have been doing night on/night off. It helps as if it's a bad night at least we can think 'at least I can sleep tomorrow night' I am so lucky as his so helpful.

Someone up thread 😁 sorry can't remember who mentioned that last night they couldn't sleep as their baby was making grunting noises. Oh can sleep through Calais doing this but I can't so I go to the lounge as its next door to the bedroom and still hear her cry but I am not disturbed by her noises so I can sleep. Is this something you can do?

Ohwool- so nice to have a break isn't it. Oh is off Thursday and my aunt is having c for a few hours. We haven't made plans yet though. Then on the 28th I'm going for a meal with my work colleagues. I can't wait! I've really missed them and the general work banter. Gosh i never thought I'd say that! C is staying with my mil and sil that night. Sil is planning for a baby soon.

Beaut- I hope you are ok lovely. Your doing amazing raising your four little ones. What an awful way your Husbands dad reacted. His either an arse (sorry) or his been strung a load of lies.

We still having trouble getting c to sleep/nap. The pram is now hit and miss. She won't sleep on us. She has taken more to the cot now though but not for long. Wakes every hour and spends maybe 5 hours in their a night and the rest in the swing chair which she can sleep soundly for hours in. I bought a more reclining one Friday so she is lying fairly flat in it. She's been asleep since 7:30 in it this morning. Yesterday she only had an hour in the morning and maybe two 20 minutes in the afternoon. By 7pm she was screaming from tiredness and we eventually got her to nod off. She has also started to accepted sleeping un swaddled for some naps. I'm really pissed off with mil though keeps commenting how dummies are disgusting ( even though her son used to have one ) and how she hates the swaddling but the poor mite can't help her startle reflex can she. She can settle but it wakes her. Sil was saying how her boy (6 months) has to sleep with a muslin and mil said ' that's ok better than a manky dummy' I know she wasn't completely serious but I'm trying so hard to get my baby to sleep it's just disheartening. Sil tried to get c to sleep yesterday afternoon by rocking and using the dummy and once put down c woke after ten minutes so I know it's not just me and she just finds it hard to settle.
I have been in touch with my health visitor and they said they don't do help with sleep until baby is six months as they don't expect them to sleep though until least then. When I commented how I wasn't expecting to her I just needed support with her napping etc and mentioned the swaddle and swing chair they gave me a lecture about sids but didn't bother to help me other wise. Useless. They wouldn't help with her feeding either as she's gaining weight well again now. Such rubbish service here. I said ' why should my baby suffer just because she's gaining weight' again no real response.
Anyway... Baby waking up. Hopefully she'll take a feed before I need to head out.

time R has a dummy and if anyone told me off for it I'd tell them where to go! Your parenting choices are exactly that - yours noone else's!

R has his first set of injections tomorrow morning not looking forward to it at all.

Oh ill bet it felt awesome to get out! We have tickets to see Derren Brown in Newcastle next month and can't wait.

Off for a drive to leeds today to visit my brother and do some shopping - beautiful day for it

All this talk of jabs made me realise I had no idea how they were going to jab S with her casts on - no spare bit of thigh! I called them and they said 'oh, we'll find somewhere to put them!'... I am not filled with confidence for tomorrow! Calpol purchased and she's two months tomorrow so I can use it.

Morning all! Can I rejoin? Just sort of dropped out as life took over, nothing major going on here.

Tamsin's a big healthy girl - 10 weeks yesterday and over 13lb. She's kind of velcro'd to me - EBF bottle refuser, sling naps, co-sleeping - but she isn't colicky and she goes back to sleep instantly after her night feeds, so I really can't complain. DS (almost 4yo! can't believe it!) is struggling a little with not being able to climb on me for cuddles, and is rejecting his dad as an alternative, which hurts DH.

I want to make a concerted effort to overcome Tam's bottle refusal so that DH can feed her and I can spend some more one-on-one time with DS. Does anyone have any tips or tricks? I have Avent natural bottles and newborn and 1 month teats - are there any brands that are particularly good? I'm wondering if maybe someone else should be making the attempt at the actual bottle feeding part ...

Swearwolf I noticed your post about the clothing. Has anyone pointed you towards vest extenders? We use reusable nappies and these mean Tamsin can still wear vests that fit properly everywhere else instead of swimming in the next size up. They might work for your baby while she's in the plaster. You could also look at baby nightgowns for night-time, they're really handy.

Oh god, just realized looking at that post - I've turned into a stereotypical eco-attachment parenting loon! Reusable nappies, slings, co-sleeping. What have I become????

Mship we are using tightgrip bottles with 0+ tears for EBM feeding though tbh E will suck at anything - parent's fingers, various dummies, muslin so the fact she takes well from them may be nothing to do with the make. Cheapies from local Saver store so not a big investment if you are able to track them down.

Thanks for the vest extender tip, we have a stack of reusable nappies we plan to start using soon and I was wondering about the fit.

Turns out in our household I am the one who can sleep through baby grunts and cries. I really thought she was waking me with low level feeding cues but DH tells me I can sleep through 3-5 mins of crying . He thought I was deliberately seeing if she'd settle which apparently she never does. He is now under instructions to wake me. I've always been a heavy sleeper but everybody told me that would change with a baby. Apparently not given she is right next to me in moses basket..

Mship I've heard babies that are EBM refusers can be better at taking if the bottle is proffered by somebody other than mum as they associate her with breastfeeding. No personal experience (as DH does all bottle feeding) but worth a try.

Mship C only has the occasional bottle and has refused it from me but always guzzles it if someone else does it.

Time so good to hear from you. Calais is looking so happy and healthy! Chubby cheeks too! What a pita about your health visitor 😕 Hardly as supporting as they should be. I've ignored the advice I don't need and didn't ask for (we are co sleeping!) and taken the bits I need.
Keep reminding your MiL that she gave your DP dummies and it worked for him! Silly woman 😁
Getting out was great, we both needed it. I hope you and your DP have a lovey time out when Calais goes to your MiLs.

Q OOOH! Derren Brown will be ace! Have fun in Leeds (if you happen to pop into Waterstones, I painted the bear and the piano in the kids section ☺️)

Mship hello! We are using Tommee Tippee closer to nature - mainly because we got given loads! G takes them but like french said, I think other people give him the bottle more than I do. I also find the shape really comfy to hold.
I've nearly ticked all the boxes on your list, but since G poos before, during and after every feed I am sticking with the pampers for now. 👍

Strangely, my mum stayed last night to look after G and since she was in the bed in his room put him in his actual cot which he has never been in. Since he had room to startle reflex it meant he didn't bash the sides like in the basket and wake himself up! DP wants to give him another go tonight, I'm a bit nervous 😮

Thanks oh wool.
A bit tearful this afternoon.
Just spent two hours trying to get baby to sleep.
I tried swaddling which she broke out of about ten times, a dummy, swing chair, a walk in the pram.
Phoned oh again in tears and he said if she doesn't sleep just play with her. But she just screams and yawns as she's so sleep deprived. I don't think he understands she needs to nap more than 1-2 hours in the day time.

Thanks for the advice! Will try DH giving a bottle with me outside so she can't even hear my voice.

time forgive me if it's been mentioned, I've been off so long, but would Calais settle in a carrier or sling? I lived with DS strapped to me for about four months through his colic. Almost broke me physically, but he slept and didn't scream, probably saved me from mental breakdown.

Time massive hugs and wishes of tea and baby naps. When G goes a bit dingy in the eve, definitely through over tiredness, I end up holding him really tightly wrapped in a blanket, holding him upright rather than cradle, stood up swaying and shushing long and loud near his head. Shushing is the original white noise! I'm without a doubt you've tried everything with little Calais but this is our go to here.
I'll ditto Mship with slings, I use a Hugabug wrap one rather than the baby bjorn because it really holds him tight and I can slip the material over his head (sounds wrong and dangerous! It's not!) so he's cocooned nice and dark which soothes him to sleep.

Well we are back from the dreaded jabs. She really cried and then I did too. I feel like an utter wuss, I'm sure I never cried with ds! Maybe it's because she is so tiny still compared to how he was? She was even whimpering in the waiting room after while I was booking her next appt, she sounded like a puppy. I forgot to take calpol with me as well so ended up buying more at the chemist. I was told to give some as soon as we got home but she was so tired I didn't want to have to wake her after the walk back so did it in the pharmacy. I also have to give it her at 9pm tonight according to the GP and then only if needed after. At the moment she is half asleep next to me on the sofa. Feeling very nervous about how the night will pan out.

I got my stomach muscles checked and they are fine to exercise boooo I also apparently have an inflammation of the tendons in the wrist called something tricky which can happen after pregnancy. Quite glad it wasn't RSI from using a smart phone.

Hi to Time and MShip good to see you both back. Time hugs for the sleeping, and I can't believe the shitness of the HV support.

Sorry this is a bit of a me me post. I'll be back later but I need to get coffee and chocolate for the trauma of today.

DS only has a bottle every now and then but would out rightly reject a bottle at first then realised it was because I was offering him it, once DH or someone else was offering it he was fine but will only take from Munchkin latch bottles.

Evening all.
C fast asleep finally. Bless her.
Re a sling. She won't settle on my chest so a bit unsure whether to get one or not?
In bed now as oh has c tonight.
Jabs where fine c screamed and held her breath when the needles went in though. Pissed off with the nurse though she did the jabs then took my baby without asking and cuddled her. When I said "I'd like my baby back now " I was looked at like a mad women ! Anyway she got a nice big mummy cuddle after that and I finally had my post natal mmr vaccine.
C not been feeding as much today. Just 8oz since the jabs but she seems fine and no temp and this happened last time to.
But omg the farts ! I keep thinking she's done a poo

Purple DS was absolutely fine after his jabs, he was a bit grumpy that afternoon but he ate normally and slept normally. Hope your DD is fine too. I was the same as you, nearly cried! I had dh with me but he can't come for the next set so I probably will cry then when I'm I my own with him!

MShip good luck with getting DD to take a bottle - hopefully your dh doing it will do the trick.

Time Calais is gorgeous! I'm sorry you are still struggling to get her to sleep. I second the carrier/sling advice. It's the one thing that is really reliable in getting DS to sleep. He doesn't always go off straight away but with his dummy in he's usually off within 10 minutes or so and will stay asleep for as long as I leave him in it - so I either have to go on a long walk or spend my time at home standing up and doing quiet jobs!

Just cross posted with you Time, DS won't sleep on my chest (hasn't since he was a tiny newborn) but he loves the sling so it's worth a try. Maybe see if you have a local sling library so you can try some different ones out.