1st YEAR FUN Oct 06 babies

[Rumpel]

Over here now?

pmoore - it's private if you go to www.craniosacral.co.uk you'll get a list of practitioners. Hope it helps.

Which Mummy is the osteopath in our pn club? I just wanted to pick your brains if I could.

I am still in terrible pain with my back so I am off to see a very good friend who is a physio and I am praying that she can help. Trying to lift an increasingly heavy babe with v sore back is not good.

youngmum - I am no expert but do you think you might have 'trained' your LO into not going to sleep unless she is cradled? My LO was very poorly after her 1st and 2nd lot of jabs but fine with the 3rd. She was very grizzly but I gave her calpol and it helped her to sleep - have you tried calpol or baby ibuprofen?

Gave her some baby rice last night her face was very funny.

rumple- ive always done the same thing every nap time and at bedtime, when she starts t oget tired we go upstairs have a bit of a cuddle to wind down sometimes with music sometime not depending on her mood, but she always gets put down awake, thats why i dont understand the sudden change, from happily going to sleep her self to her screaming every time i put her down!!!

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Youngmum: William has started doing this as well, especially at night which is exhausting . Don't know why, but you're not alone

swizzler- its terrible isnt it, i just dont want her to form a habit of me having to rock her to sleep but i dont like to leave her to cry

hi - not sure where the time has gone to! had a quick skim through the thread - gosh a lot happens doesn't it!

Swizzler - sadly I can't do Tuesdays or Thursdays anymore, I collect ds1 from nursery school on those days and we do stuff. Have you tried the new Children's Centre at Millfields (Clapton Pond) for activities, massage etc? I do baby massage at my local doctors. Also a new Children's Centre at Ann Taylor Centre, London Fields (top of Broadway Market) - I plan on trying out the 'music and movement' for 0-2 on Monday at 10 am if your bus drops you on Mare St and you want to join me? (it is free !)

Sorry to read some of you are feeling down, hope you have sunshine today and things are looking up.

ds2 had his 2nd set of jabs last week, seems ok. I have booked a smear and the nurse asked if I would if she did it in 'student week' ... so of course I said 'no problem'! oh boy.

Haven't started ds2 on any baby rice/veg yet - trying to put it off for another week - we are away next weekend. Think recommendation is to wean between 4 and 6 months isn't it? Was 4 months when I had ds1, then moved to 6 months, but is now 'between', but I do have my box of baby rice at the ready!

Anyone else joining us at Museum of Childhood (Bethnel green) on 14 March?

hello all. am feeling superb wearing a new pair of jeans-phew! have finally managed to put the maternity wons in the wash, and probably as far away in the cupboard as possible. topshop do these fab reasonable priced skinny fit jeans-the best thing about them is that they do up under the tummy beast so didn't have to get huge size, just my normal size . i feel like putting on a white apron and dancing across the hills singing the hills are alive. obviously not a perfect fit, ahem but if not bad.
yes, it's me, the paediatric osteopath. fire ahead with the questions rumpel. have to tell you that craniosacral therapy is in NO way the same thing as cranial osteopathy. can see the confusion with similar names but we are different. osteopaths do a longer and much closer to medical training, looking at the whole body. cranial osteopathy is a specialisation within osteopathy. it is the type used for kids and babies because it is so gentle-so gentle in fact that many parents think we're doing absolutely nothing when we are working but the proof is in the results.
youngmum, really sorry about your horrific lack of sleep. we see quite a few kids at work that have crazy sleep after vaccinations. we think it's just a minor reaction of their body to the vaccine that makes them feel uncomfortable and headachey. a good osteopath should be able to sort it in a treatment. otherwise it'll wear off eventually.
dh is downstairs redeeming himself in the kitchen after failing to produce a card this morning

youngmum-sympathise with your lack of sleep. I remember my DD not sleeping after her jabs-they all react differently don't they?

Thanks for filling me on on your sleep patterns everyone-I am VERY jealous mummypossum/totally.
Swizzler/Youngmum (and others whose babies wake every couple of hours), my hv today suggested I start weaning. I had planned to hold off, but as DS is waking so much (and is 18lbs 10oz!!) he thought it might be that he is getting hungry. Will give it a go. Feel a little sad a about it though as it is the first step away from being totally dependent on me

Right off to watch Russell Brand on the Brits, and eat steak and chips!

Marthahm- sorry can I fire a question at you to? I took Samantha to the doctors yesterday, as you know I was worried about her head shape, but apparently that it is fine and will sort itself . LO is not holding her neck/head up straight yet, not supporting her head weight, always favours her sleeping side. She can do it but only for half a minute at a time. The GP said she has got good muscle tone and has just not 'got it' yet. Any thoughts please. Don't mind paying out if needed.

Definitely teething time here.......... rosy cheeks, grizzling.

Sorry for all you non-sleeping mums.

I went out for a surprise valentines meal- lovely, lovely chinese meal. Gingeme- lost 5.5lb this week. that means 1 stone 6lb since 3rd Jan- not sure how that happened. Think you started yesterday?

morning all,

Well we had a bit of a better nite last nite bed at 7.30, dream feed at 10, then woke at 1.30 had a feed settled back to sleep then woke at 4.30 but managed to get her bak to sleep woke again at 5.30 again managed to get her back to sleep then finally got up at 6.30 but least there was no screaming

Glad you had a better night, Youngmum. Slight improvement here as well - W waking every 2 hours (much better) and asleep till 8:30. I'm setting aside the next week or so to conentrate on getting his routine right - making sure he's napping when tired etc Thing is, I have to write everything down (when he wakes up, feeds etc) cos I'm incapable of remembering anything!

We also managed to get W to sleep last night without him falling asleep on the boob - great improvement

hi all

youngmum glad to hear that your lo slept a bit better last night

my lo has her 2nd lot of jabs tomorrow, eeek. was meant to be last friday but we couldnt leave our street coz of the snow!

anna is 14 weeks now, time is flying by

rumpel i hope that you get better soon xox

majormoo - anna is bf and doesnt sleep through yet, she seems to do 4 hours a go in the night

Hi All,

Martha - thanks. I actually did a cranisacral workshop a few years ago and use fascia release techniques quite a lot within reflexology amongst other things. I recommended pmoore to see a cranisacral therapist for her Lo as it is such a gentle but effective technique. The reason I wanted to pick your brains is: I went to an osteopath for the first time last week, he released my cervical vertebrae which were quite stuck, especially C7, he then worked the thoracic area, which was also quite immobile. I then caught a very bad cold off of DH, and I put the terrible neck/backache down to that. However, pain in my right shoulder kept me awake Sunday night, Monday morning it had travelled into my forn right chest wall and I couldn't breathe properly on that side. Dr whisked me off to hospital thinking pulmonary embolus - wasn't thankfully. Went to friend who is physio yesterday and she said my thoracic vertabrae was out. She did some reflex therapy and fascia release, but now I am in excrutiating pain. I am thinking nipped nerve as it is down my right arm into my thumb. Am living on painkillers at the moment, which is making my LO very sleepy. Anyway the point is could it have been my osteopathy treatment and what would you recommend now? I am aware that sometimes you get worse before getting better and also that phyio's and osteos don't always see eye to eye as they are different disciplines. The osteo was fully qualified and very experienced, however, I am understandably, a bit concerned now. Sorry for mega long post!

On a brighter note LO slept from 8.30pm to 6.30am, then after bf, 7-9am and is asleep again. I am thinking it may be the painkillers! Or possibly she is growing a centimetre today.

PMOORE - BRILLIANT well done you! I was doing really well too until this back malarky, no exercise for me now until it is better.

Good afternoon ladies. Just had a quick flick through. Yes pmoore I started sw on Wednesday and was shocked and disgusted how much I weigh. Started at the wrong time realy as my grandad is gravely ill in hospital and my parents are staying with us so I just cant get my head around what Im supposed to be eating.
Edward is enjoying his weaning. Still not sleeping through though.
Not sure about the next meet up at the mo. Dont want to plan anything too far in advance just yet.
Well better go my sister and niece will be here soon.
Take care all xxxx

hi all,

rumpel, hope you feel better soon, sounds really hard..

majormoo, my LO is breastfed only and he sleeps from 11.30 pm till 7 am reliably (he's now 19 weeks and has only done it for the last 3 weeks reliably). I definitely think it might be worth you trying to up your milk supply by expressing a bit/giving a few feeds of EBM from the bottle, as I've noticed my supply goes up the more I express

youngmum, my DS has started shrieking when I put him down, just don't know why. However, I leave him to have a little shriek if I'm sure he's not hungry/dirty, because sometimes I think it's just letting off steam.. I know it's hard not to pick them up straightaway though..

Second week back at work full time, not so bad but a bit stressy expressing in the office (and keeping milk in the office fridge!).. Office politics seems so unimportant now I've got a baby to think about! (although still fun gossiping of course). Feels so strange to be back. Vera the nanny is so good with him and teaches him Russian nursery songs about ravens looking for porridge, and he seems very happy, but still feel guilty. I'm rushing back for 5.30 pm and no-one's noticed so that's good. WIll be much better when DH FINALLY gets back from Turkmenistan next Tues.

hope you're all well!

Hi,

I've just been skimming through and I have to applaud all the mums who are still having sleepless nights, I really do sympathise with you especially those who are breastfeeding i so admire your commitment.

Talking of back stiffness etc I am really suffering with a stiff back and ankles, I can hardly get down the stairs in the morning because of my aching ankles. My posture is also really bad and I look really hunched my sister said I look like Mrs Overall from Acorn Antiques! and I wa just wondering which route I should pursue ie, Osteopath, chiropractor or something like pilates?

ginge - sorry to hear about your Gp.

Nic - if you have had poor posture for a long time, that is it is not due to an actual back injury like a fracture, I would recommend Alexander Technique Practitioner, or yoga or pilates all of which will teach you to realign your body and improve your stance and muscle tone.

Gemmity - how long has you hubby been away? It's quite hard without them isn't it? my DH is due to go to Angola in March for a while.

Went to my friend the physio again and had some ID (intrinsic development) and my neck/shoulder/arm is feeling a bit better now. Am back again tomorrow for some mobilisation so hopefully I'll be back to normal then. Am desperate to get out as have been incapacitated for a whole week now!

morning all,

Well an even better n ite last nite lo got up at 3 for a feed then slept till 7 so hopefully we are getting bak on track and most of the time she quitge happy to settle herself to sleep again no morescreaming

Majormoo- lo only 14weeks old so no weaning herejust yet i think it was just the injections that has caused all these nite waking she not really a hungry baby she only has between 4-6oz and thats a gud feed, she still weighs in at a nice 12lb 11oz though lol

well, wish me luck everyone. injection day has finally arrived. last time she would only stay with me for the rest of the day, fast asleep and if i tried to move, she would cry like mad

Hi All,

Wuzz - hope you are okay with LO - 3rd lot didn't seem so bad for my LO.

Youngmum - glad your LO is getting back to normal.

Emzicle - how are you doing? Haven't heard from you for a while.

Had another phsyio today and shoulder/arm/neck thing is slowly getting better. Thank goodness A is sleeping well again now or I don't know what I would do. Desperately needing my hair done but I can't decide where or when to go. Am feeling a bit blue 'cos of inctivity due to back, I've been eating too many sweet things again, when I kinow I really need to lose another 2.5 stone so I figure getting my hair done might make me feel a wee bit more attractive.
Dh brought me in a big bar of galaxay choc last night - scoffed it was delic' but I can feel it parting with my saddlebags already{shock]

Hope everyone's had a good day. Routine getting better I've been trying to sort William's naps out and he's now getting 3 good (i.e. over 1 hour) naps a day. Nights still a problem, but hey

Gingeme: sorry to hear about your granddad.

I'm talking to my boss next week about returning to work (gulp). TBH, if I can go back p/t I htink I'll enjoy it. I do have the luxury of being able to leave William with his dad rather than trying to find a nursery. We won't have much cash, though.

I hear him grizzling - bathtime so better go!

rumpel sorry am only replying to you now. have just logged on for first time in a while. i'm so glad it's getting better. i know what you mean about the feeling miserable going together with not being able to do stuff and then eating more and feeling like crap etc etc. my conclusion reading your email is that the osteo really stirred things up, causing inflammation and irritating nerves to your arm and ribcage. i very rarely manipulate post partum women. at this stage with all the hormones floating round all the ligaments are still really lax so more likely to do dammage with manipulation. also we're all far too bendy with all the ligament laxity, the problem is instability in the joints and then the muscles tightening to compensate and getting stiffer and stiffer. also, knackeredness and rubbish posture from picking up and bf. sorry rumpel, probably preaching to the converted...i apologise for your osteo, sounds like not the top man for the job in this instance although haven't seen your back etc and don't know exactly what he did so not so fair of me to judge.
agree with you re Alexander tech, and pilates.

pmore-in my view you should def. get samantha to an osteopath. you want to get this sorted now. hah! i hear you say, not likely after reading what's written above this. only take her to someone that treats children on a reg. basis. i would never see one that i dont have word of mouth recommendation from colleague. if you tell me where you are i can recommend one. if you're not too far away i would strongly recommend the osteopathic centre for children (where i used to work). it's a charity set up to treat preg. women, women who've just had babies and kids up to 18. so you're sure of specialist help.(specially if you mention my name!) it's based in farringdon.

swizzler-well done, progress at last! still sounds like impressive work though.
gemmity-ditto, i had a hard enough time coping when dh went to sweden for 2 days and wasn't even having to cope with work too.
gingeme sorry about your grandad.

everybody-sorry about long and prob. deeply boring post for most of you
jumping into bed now to get some sleep before she wakes

pmore, if you look at samantha's head from above is one ear further forward than the other?

Hi marthahm- I live in Gravesend- but would be willing to travel. If I am going to get this treated I want it done expertly.
Yes, on the side she favours her ear is forward a bit more that the other.

i've had a look at the osteopaths directory pmnore and at a map. is romford of tunbridge wells any good? i have friends who work there who are also tutors on the paediatric osteopathy msc course. i've worked with both of them and they're brill. let me know if that's too far and i'll ring them both to see if they know anyone closer to you.
have a good weekend everyone, i'm off in search of a strong coffee