Our babies are teething, screaming and generally not sleeping, but we're still JS-ing - it's Just Mumming 10!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 10th Just Mumming thread...following the trials and tribulations of our babies, following the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 43rd grads thread is here

The thread we have graduated from is HERE in its 56th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

The previous Just Mumming thread is HERE

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

Me too pud! I was going to get my chartered status by writing basically a dissertation. What a fool I was! Made the mistake of telly my friend that who still likes to bring it up and remind me how naive I was. luckily she talked me out of signing up before he was here. Will have to check that thread out popz, so I feel less dickish.

What the fuck is an 'activated nut' pixie?! I had a triple choc brownie today, sounds like she should be jealous of me not the other way around!

Nappies just get worse purple. I miss liquid poo's! Do you roast a BNS whole? That might work better for lazy me.

Sounds like a good night essie, you feel more human after a bit of normal socialising? I do normally.

I haven't had the meatballs but I'm not allowed in IKEA as it is in the ever growing list of shops DH won't go into or shop at. I'm going to have to whittle all my items from twigs in my garden soon enough. Knit myself plates from my own hair.

Pud have you tried bravado? I loved mine, they were so comfortable. I'm probably average nork sized.

Shan't bother with the meatballs again, or the IKEA cafe, it was filthy. Food all over the floor and the tables hadn't been wiped. No one was cleaning up, just removing trays!
I got more boxes for the Kallax in the living room to hide my crap which was the purpose of going

Essie I bought bananas today to try him on. If he doesn't like it, I'll make banana bread win win
Good on you for going out. We quite often go to pizza express for tea on a Sunday. We take B in his car seat, some times he sleeps through the whole thing, other times he's OK in his seat with toys or sat on our knees. It does depend what mood he's in though. If he's been fractious then we don't go.

Popz I started the sertraline. I've felt a bit weird, kinda flat but also a bit jittery at times. Now I've got insomnia. I am tired but lying in the dark for an hour did nothing
I got some vitamins today, starflower oil with b6 and vit D. Thought they were worth a go.

Dulcet you chop it in half, remove the seeds, place cut side down in a dish and half fill with water. Think it took about an hour

With a BNS I take a slice off the bottom so it stands firm, then slice it in half through the length. Then lay a half down on the cut side, slice into inch think rounds and peel these with my big mofo knife then repeat on the other half. My big mofo knife was left behind by a tosser of an ex I had. The shit was almost worth it for that knife... Sorts a BNS like a boss. Also good for swede chopping.

Never tried ikea meatballs but the newer veggie balls are really good. BabyPis really liked them too so next time she's getting her own portion. I don't do sharing.

Sorry I've not completely caught up yet but pud if you don't mind spending between £20-30 for nursing bras please try Elle McPherson. I had 3 when I was pregnant with Poppy and they were gorgeous. I got mine for a it cheaper though as they stock them in Cheshire Oaks.

I'll go catch up with rest of Fred now

Essie panic attacks are shite. I've been having them quite a bit since having River. Did you see the link I put up yesterday? Apparently a lack of B6 and Iron can cause them so I'm taking supplements now to see if they stop. Think my panic attacks are linked to mil. When I think about her I start feeling anxious. Thinking need to tell her how I'm feeling and then she can either change (yeah right) or fuckoff (gx)

I'm not organised in that I roast veg. I put everything in a pan and boil it then blend the shit out of it. I usually have 3 seperate pans going. I usually do a bolognese dish, cottage pie and a veggie based one. Might spice it up a bit this week and make some different meals. We also blend left overs as long as there aren't any traces of dairy in it. We do a lot of home cooking so keeping dairy out of food is pretty easy.
It's cooking day today. God I hate Sunday's. It takes about 2 hours and most of that is chopping because I have the shittest knives in the world. Pis Im pretty jealous of your BNS ninja knife.
Kids were a nightmare last night. Poor ST ended up staying in their room last night so I could get some sleep. Poppys full of a cold and was crying at around 1am. He started bringing them downstairs at 5:30am this morning and he looked exhausted. I packed him back off to bed so I'm up with the kids. Supposed to be my precious lie in today (I get one about every 2 weeks) but couldn't leave ST like that especially as he left me to sleep all last night and dealt with two sick kids on his own.
Planning on getting outside today. I don't think staying in helps with colds or anyone's mental wellbeing! Might just go for a quick walk around the local nature park and make sure the kids are wrapped up well.

I've got a smear test on Tuesday. I'm not looking forward to it. I know they aren't fun for anyone but because of my childhood even less so. I just get so tense if anyone goes near me when I don't want them to. It makes me feel faint and sick can anyone offer a bit of reassurance? My mum had pre cancerous cells a few years ago so it's not like I can afford to not have one. You'd think after giving birth I'd be alright. I didn't know what was going on though because I'd had an epidural so could've cared less who was doing what at that point haha

Purple glad you've got hold of some supplements. Worst thing to do is sit in the dark if you can't sleep. You just feel under pressure. Thing that always sends me off is listening to an audio book because you can close your eyes and get lost in a different world. Your brain also only concentrates on that instead of the 101 other things that you usually think about. Worth a try? I've been downloading Terry Pratchett books- never read them before in my life but thought they were worth a go. They aren't bad actually. I recommend the "witch" series of discworld though. They're pretty funny. Also how do
You make banana bread? I love bananas and bread so sounds like a good combo!

Dulcet never mind her being jealous of you for eating a chocolate brownie, I am! Must pick up some treats today. Fuck knows what an activated nut is. She eats some weird shit and forces her 3 year old son to do the same. Surprised she's able to stand up. Her figure doesn't scream "health nut" though so I'm pretty sure she feasts on the occasional 24 variety Krispy Kreme every now and then

Toast how's your nork? Hope it's feeling better

Pixie I got some really good,knives in Lakeland, they were their own brand and around £15-£20 each so you could just buy one every now and then. Or just buy a cooks knife and a veg knife. I don't use the others much.
Banana bread is more cake really. Make a 2 egg Victoria sponge (125g each of flour, sugar and butter) and then add a couple of mashed bananas, the riper the better and mix it all up before you put it in the oven

I fucking love banana bread....

Another banana bread fan here! Haven't made it in ages though. Haven't baked anything in ages in fact. At least 5 months!

Nork is on the mend again, thanks. Think it may be 'one of those things' I have to put up with whilst BFing seeing as it keeps coming back now.

I'm trying to give Melba an earlier bedtime seeing as she's barely napped today and is obviously tired after being out and about. She's having her loooong sleepy bedtime feed at the mo, hopefully it works.

Essie we've been out for dinner a couple of times, I usually feel a bit bad about being out in the evening with a baby but actually she loves it and it doesn't seem to disrupt things at all, if anything she settles easier once we are home than she usually does! I know the time will come when it's not going to work but it seems fine at the moment. Glad you had a good time.

Hurray for fixed nork Toast

Feeling smug here. I don't normally do bedtimes, it's DHs job but tonight I gave him his 8pm bottle in his sleeping bag in his room and put him in his cot. Been watching him on the video monitor since, he lay there chewing his fingers for ages and he's just fallen asleep

Photo shoot went well today. He loves swimming again and smiled loads. He didn't cry at all when dunked and we got some fab shots. Feeling slightly broke now!

Hi everyone.
pixie I've just found your link re panic attacks/anxiety going to have a read now. Thanks for that.

Another banana bread fan here. Also I make banana muffins sometimes with the same mixture. Yum.

Day 4 of weaning and he had breakfast, lunch and tea. I was only planning to do breakfast and tea for a while but we had friends over for lunch and he sat in his highchair looking worried that he wasn't getting any so I gave him a bit of baby rice and he yummed it up. He scoffed some more baby rice with mashed banana at tea time too and would happily have eaten more but I was afraid to give him too much this early on. He's loving it. I'm glad that finally I can express and know I can get the milk into him in food too as he's a serial bottle refuser and I've chucked away a lot of expressed milk over the last few months! Do I just gradually increase the portion sizes? Sorry I'm a bit clueless.

Haha serves me right for being smug. He slept an hour then we've been in 5x since. Bloody coitus interruptus too!

B will eat a whole ice cube once a day now so I was planning to increase the frequency then volume.
The trouble is we go out to groups in the mornings and he sleeps late so I leave him in bed as long as I can before we go out. If I'm giving him porridge I'll need to get him up earlier

Purple, your baby eats ice cubes?!

Llama, great work on the weaning!

Well after getting P to bed at 7.30pm last night tonight she went down at 11pm! Ah well you win some, you lose some! She has gone 5 hours between feeds again tonight though. In fact I woke her just now as I really needed to feed her!

Hi all sorry for being awol. Between Facebook and being away I get very little time to update but I'm reading!

However the non sleeping baby is asleep on me just now! We go home today - we've been staying at pil since thurs in Fife. Lovely lovely people who paid for us to come up and have been so incredibly kind. Still I'll be so glad to be back in my own house. Managing a weaning non sleeping baby in someone else's house is not easy! Poor fil had to wash up my breast pump funnel the other day too - think he was a bit freaked out!

Very nice but they are very polite and awkward so you feel like you're constantly apologising and 'after you' a lot. Very artistic family so it's a bit random. There's stuff everywhere - you open a drawer to look for a hairdryer and find bongos. It's also unbelievably hot so I've had a mare trying to manage B at night with what he wears.

I've had to cosleep all the nights - tried him in their cot on first night and he was up every hour to half hour. At least with cosleeping I've had a couple of hours at a time. Broken.

Been really impressed with his behaviour though - everyone has remarked on how well behaved he is, how he doesn't scream (ha ha!). He's gone down for his naps at normal times and fed at normal times. It's just the nights that have been hard.

Weaning is going well - he's on 3 meals now. I need to bite the bullet and start giving him more solid stuff but I'm scared of choking. I guess I need to just bash on though.

I hate banana bread. There I said it!

Ok catching up:

I had both smear test and a biopsy last week on my breast lump, so I'll be getting those results when I get home. Hooray!

Purple I'm glad you're getting help for your anxiety. You all know by now that I have GAD. If you didn't it's pretty obvious by the amount of stuff I post on the Facebook page. I came off citalopram years ago though - had the worst come down so not keen to go on again. I manage it through CBT and winging it now.

Toast I'm glad your boob seems to be better! The biopsy dislodged my lump and it feels normal again. He's still not feeding on it brilliantly but it's much better. Jill LC came to help me and he latched perfectly. I'm so angry with my GP though! I said I thought it was mastitis/blocked duct.

Dr:'I don't think so, it's a solid lump, we need to urgently refer you to the breast clinic to get it scanned'

So I tootle off to scary breast comic, wait 1.5 hours and see consultant who feels it and quickly says 'that's a blocked duct', but the scan will confirm. I then go for scan and they say they think it's a galactocele (milk cyst ) and they'll do a biopsy. They took 3 samples from me (ow) and I asked can I still bf from that boob because my son is bf. Woman had no idea and told me no and I needed to rest it. I explained that wasn't an option as I was there due to mastitis and it would just get worse. She shrugged and told me to speak to the breast team.

Eventually I was told I couldn't feed because of local anaesthetic but that I could express (ow). Honestly the lack of info was shocking! Jill later told me I could've feed as lidocaine is fine when bf.

Boob is black and blue but at least I can feed again.

Falling asleep going to take a break. So tired

Ice cubes??? How come? Do they not hurt his mouth?

That's not a criticism by the way - I'm just astounded! And very interested :)

I think purple means the equivalent of an ice cube of food. Not an actual ice cube

Oh my god what a fanny!!!! Of course!!!!!!!! 5am sleep deprivation

I am glad you said that o was about to feed one to b

Just kidding

Oooooh, ha ha now I understand! Thanks Pixie! I did think giving actual ice cubes was a bit random!

Boob nightmare there Lil. I find it v interesting that the government/NHS really want to encourage BFing but many HCPS seem v uninformed. We ended up leaving hospital on day 2 without having properly established BFing (we thought we had)and even when we were readmitted die to weight loss no one checked P's latch/position.

I know there is lots of support available via LL/NCT etc but I have found that not only did I need to seek this out myself, I then had to be v specific about the support I needed. Despite telling MW/HV and LC that I was really in pain, the first time someone watched me feed from start to finish was at 4 weeks, because I specifically asked for it. This was a BF peer supporter and she sorted us right out!

The NHS was brilliant medically but if I had only relied on NHS support I think I would have switched to FF by 4 weeks.

La!

Yikes la what a nightmare! Can't believe the lack of BF knowledge in a breast clinic!

I froze veggies in ice cube trays. He takes a whole ice cube of puréed veg now.

Ouchie La

Got to work. Top on back to front. Should have stayed in bed.

Haha. Ice cubes! It's a nifty trick for you guys not yet weaning - divide it all up into ice cubes so you have little portions. We've done it with spag Bol too, not just veg. That could be the answer to your question too essie. At first we moved towards three meals and then increased portion - ice cube portions make it easier to judge that.

That is a shocking lack of knowledge there la. I know they can't answer everything but they should have the means to look it up and give accurate advice!

Banana bread lover here. Probably making some this week as bought loads of nanas!

Lol did think it was quite funny about the ice cube thing. Don't know I got to the rational outcome to be honest considering I'm absolutely fucking knackered. I never bothered with ice cube portions. My greedy kids went straight to full size portions after about 3 days of trying jars etc.
Just watch out for constipation and make sure you offer water with ever meal. Also bananas are good as log as they are nice and ripe. If they aren't ripe enough they cause constipation. As we found out with Poppy. That day was not fun and her trying to squeeze out an Unripe banana poo was not fun for anyone involved.
Will catch up shortly, just adjusting the matchsticks in my eyes to keep them open