Our babies are teething, screaming and generally not sleeping, but we're still JS-ing - it's Just Mumming 10!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 10th Just Mumming thread...following the trials and tribulations of our babies, following the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 43rd grads thread is here

The thread we have graduated from is HERE in its 56th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

The previous Just Mumming thread is HERE

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

Thanks for the compression socks feedback ladies. Ive now ditched mine! cookie hospital gave them for dvt risk reduction.

Hope you get some sleep la. We are having a fairly awful night with R but it's all so new still. She really hates her next to me though. I'm seriously considering Co sleeping but am also worried about hurting her. Ive read loads of info provided by lemon that says it is safe but what if I do roll???

Average night here really in terms of wake ups but he is being a pain in the arse to get back down. I am
Probably being unrealistic to expect CO to fix everything straight away. I am just desperate though! Just need to get the weekend so I can get some more rest - which is how I feel by every Weds! He did say the same to me about it getting worse essie. I just want my miracle cure!

My socks were due to c section cookie. I was led to believe it was standard practice after a section! Any chance to go to Canada, take it! What is she like sleeping in unusual places? Maybe if you get a night flight or something she can sleep through a lot of it?

Great news on the improved night la, long may it continue! Good luck for the travel in the morning. A good nights sleep should help him behave hopefully!

I've never done the co sleeping thing jelly, he's just never been that into laying down with me, but you can consider it for the early weeks whilst settling in. Doesn't have to be forever.

I tried co sleeping but couldn't sleep due to paranoia that I'd roll on him, and also it didn't really make him sleep better.

I have a weaning question - when does baby drop the lunch time milk feed? I f like we are constantly shoving food into B at the moment. He doesn't seem to mind and is now enjoying some solids.

Our rough routine is this:

Wake up (can 7am, can be 5!) - boob feed

8/8:30 ish porridge with boob milk (and sometimes fruit purée mixed in)

10 ish (on demand) boob feed

12:30/1 lunch - veg or fruit purée just now, going to introduce finger food as soon as he'll take it but he won't touch it just now. I've started mixing the purees this week to combinations.
He then has a bottle around 4/5oz of formula (I'm slowly winding down day time bf)

4pm ish (on demand) boob feed

4:30/5 tea - only just started this so its light veg purée, nothing too stodgy

6:30 bath then boob feed

7pm bed

Does this sound ok or am I feeding too much? He seems pretty happy

La our routine is pretty similar
7 am bottle
8.30 porridge with formula
11 bottle
12.30/1 fruit or veg puree
3 bottle
4 veg puree
6-6.30 bath, bottle and bed
For his bottles M will have anywhere between 5-8oz he usually averages about 26 oz a day

my main worries is portion size i am not to sure if i am giving enough or too much. especially with porridge as i keep upping how much i give him because he always finishes the bowl and wants more!

Kb how old is he? I'm wondering when to drop the lunch time milk - I give bottle and solids. I don't think yours sounds like too much at all, but I'm not very clued up on formula amounts. I'm going to be substituting boob for formula at at the 10 and 4 feeds so would be interested to hear how you work out how much to give. I just make up a bottle and leg him decide. Once he took 9oz but that was when I gave milk before solids. Now it's mostly 4-5 after the solids.

hes 5 and a half months we started weaning early because he hadn't been having much milk but he has upped his intake again since weaning. i meant giving too much puree/porridge not milk. he was feeding every 3 hours but spaced it out to 4 hours so that made him go from 5 feeds a day to 4. i just always make up an 8oz bottle and just let him have as much as he wants he usually averages about 7oz on 2 has 2 8oz feed and has a smaller one of 5oz. Sometimes if he has a big feed at 3 he then has a small feed at bestime so i'd eventually like him to have less or drop that feed so he fills up at bedtime.The hv told me he would gradually just start to drop a feed by having less at each feed or go longer between feeds so I'm presuming theres no rush and they'll just do it in their own time. its so hard to know whats right isn't it?

My sister lives in Canada so we woll be going ro visit her :) E has onky ever slept at home or at my parents he settles well at both. We are hoping to get a night flight but geez louise me and an 18 month old on a plane for 8 hrs!

Ahhhh thank you yes o think I'll just see how we go. I'm taking it from him - if he finishes the porridge I give a bit more. It's with milk anyway so he's getting milk which is the important bit.

We are getting on a plane with B today for the first time. I'm scared! Eek! Hope it's ok

jc - no, it's so tight because that's all the skin that was left when they'd taken what they needed to, so it'll always have a dint but should hopefully ease off a little bit as the skin will stretch a little.

Canada sounds exciting cookie!! You may be mental but it'll be worth it!!

You won't roll on her jelly - New mums sleep much more lightly than usual so as not to miss the baby's cues and prevent squash-age. Co sleeping is perfectly safe done properly. It gets a pretty bad rep for various reasons. You might have to consider kicking DH out of bed in the short term though. It's worth it in the quest for extra sleep!! Have you got a cosleeper cot?

Bourbon biscuits are also dairy free!!

Bourbons!?! Seriously! Get me to a shop!

popz we have got the chicco next to me but she won't settle in it and when she does its not for long. We are persevering with the next to me but need other options of she won't settle.

Bourbons are diary free?? That means they are healthy right eats a whole pack

Anyone any experience of sertraline? I've finally been to the GP about my anxiety and cried on her for half an hour! She's given me a prescription for it, I used to have citalopram but she wasn't keen. She's also referring me for CBT which is what I think I really need.

Jelly give her time, try putting the sheet down your top just before you put her in it, then it's warm and smells of you

We've got a next to me as well and he wouldn't sleep in it to start with. I cosleep as well and have done from about a week old when I got so bloody desperate for some sleep. He now starts the night in the next to me, and comes in with me when he wakes though sometimes I can now sneak him back into the n2m without him noticing! It was about 6-7 weeks before I could start putting him in it for short stretches. He also has a sleepyhead in there. He was totally unputdownable for first weeks though and still has a lot of daytime sleeps in the sling, though is starting to do sleeps in the buggy as well now. Hang in there, the next to me will end up being a god send! I thought we'd wasted a fortune when he first refused to sleep in it but it's great now and fab for travelling too as means we can recreate home crib set up when staying with rellies.

So we started weaning today. I hadn't decided before today when I would do it but I caved when he watched me longingly eat my cereal this morning yet again. I just gave him a tiny bit of baby porridge, he yummed it up like a pro and so I gave him a tiny bit more at tea time, again, hoovered up so seems like he is ready. Might give a bit of banana a go tomorrow. I don't really have much of a plan? What else is good to start with? He's 5.5 months.

It's early days yet jelly - she'll get used to it in time. We had a Bednest and I also spent the first few weeks thinking I'd made a super expensive mistake!! But he happily slept in there until about 5mo eventually. You can try all the usual tricks to get her used to it in short stretches for now, but she will be happiest close to you just now. Have you heard of the 4th trimester? X

essie - minipopz has always loved banana so that's a good one I think. Sweet potato mush? Cucumber/ carrot sticks/ toast fingers if you're doing BLW.

Why's the GP not keen on citalopram purple? Surely it's your choice? I'm on paroxetine atm, which seems fine. Good news on the CBT for long term progress though x

purple - I've been on sertraline for nearly 6 heats now, including through pregnancy and breastfeeding. It definitely works for me - tried coming off twice, both times very gradually, and it wasn't pretty.
My gp told me that it was better for the anxiety end of the spectrum than depression in her view, so that was why she recommended it.
Think it took about a month to work, and made me feel a bit sick in the mornings for the first week or two, but other than that, I had no problems with it and will probably be on it for life now, which I am fine with.
Hope that helps! X

Thanks lovelies, I'm hoping it won't be permanent esp if we're planning no2 next year.
I feel better for offloading, I've been kidding myself that I'm ok. I manage for a short time then get in a bad way again. Hopefully the CBT will do some good too.

B had apple today and loved it, he ate it all! BNS tomorrow

That's interesting deeply - I'd quite like to stay on mine for life because everytime I stop taking them it's just a slow decline into the next "episode". And obviously I don't want to go down that road with a baby in tow. Does the GP not try and make you come off them?

BNS??

Just slinking in to place-mark again. I'm going to keep posting on the FB group as location/details mean we're pretty easily identifiable on a public forum ( if you know us already) but just trying to keep up with what's happening here!

Horrendous nights sleep at pil. B is up a flight of stairs from us. Been running up and down all night. I guess I'll lose weight at least?

Speaking of biscuits, did you see about the custard cream shortage?! I am distraught and completely explains why I haven't been able to find any for weeks. I love custard creams. (I realise the headline says ginger nuts but who cares about them?!) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35482789

Now the messy fun starts essie! The most popular things here have been sweet potato and avacado I think. They are soft which helps. Banana was one of the first things here too. We also mush it with warmed wheatabix for some texture.

Hi nef! Welcome back!

What is BNS purple? Is it bananas? Glad you are getting support from GP. I am told that CBT is really helpful for lots of people.

There is a risk you will lose weight la, you should eat more in case!

That sounds rubbish La, you definitely deserve cake for breakfast. Is it worth putting B in your room if you are staying overnight tonight? Or will that undo all of your good work getting him into his own room?

for you Purple, you are doing a brilliant job and well done for seeking help too, not always easy.

In the world of P... She is in her first ever cloth nappy, courtesy Aunty Lemon! DH also got her to go to sleep in her Moses basket yesterday evening by giving her a cuddle and the putting her down awake. She had a little cry (with his hand on her tummy and him shushing) and then went to sleep. I was v good and didn't pick her up! I did the same this morning for her nap. 2 mins of soft crying then asleep, and both times she seemed to sleep much better for it. I thought I would feel mean but actually it is probably less annoying for P than falling asleep in arms, then being moved and put in a cold cot, then waking up and being lifted up... and repeat.

Has Pretzel been in to say hello yet? Hope you are getting on okay my dear!

... Just read Deeply's post on FB about sleeping and now I feel a bit mean..