It's the Christmas party at Mugabe nights, pull up a bar stool and order your shots! August 2015

[FattyNinjaOwl]

New thread for all the regulars at the bar, and the not so regulars too.

Back again! I think we have definitely regressed for the moment, just in time for Christmas, fantastic! Although if I'm feeding more often, I can worry less about stuffing my face! I could murder a fry-up about now

Well done baby Frolic- now teach the other babies please!!

Tindel- can I use the same excuse even though im bottle feeding?! 😂 if only! DS is eating AGAIN!! He's 21 weeks tommorrow what the hell is going on he's getting worse!! That's feeds at 1900, 2130, 0230 and 0600 compared to usually having his last bottle around 2000 and next around 0800 with a 0400 one occasionally thrown in!! That said I've had more sleep this way as between the feeds he's been sound asleep without murmurs!

Aghhhh nose running down face trapped under feeding baby- wiping on muslin acceptable right,?

Go for it lily! Muslin still better than sleeve (or wiping it on the baby!!)

It's done slow! Haha other option was DS's grobbag! Hoping he falls back to sleep now so snotty grobbag wouldn't have been ideal!

Sorry can I have a quick rant?! Got to bed just gone 1 as DH wanted to chat when he got back from Xmas do. Then fed DS at 4 and asked DH to help at 6. He tried a feed and changed nappy but DS wouldn't settle for ages and just kept crying. I had to keep telling DH to look after him as he wanted to just leave him to 'self settle' - he's awake now, that's not how it works! Finally at 8 I said that he won't settle and please could DH help as I've got a cold starting and felt awful but he just wanted to leave DS to sleep in his cot. Not much sleeping going on! I asked him to take DS down so I could have some sleep but he didn't think it necessary. So I've got up with him. DS happy now on playmat so I was right, he was just up for the day. I'm so tired and feel ill and so disappointed in DH to be like this. Feel like I need to make some sort of stand but nit sure what to do.

Oh MaGrat I don't know what the answer is but if you find out please do share! My DH pulls tricks like this all the time in fact I haven't bothered asking for a lie in/ him to take DS so I can nap for a few weeks as it usually results in an argument! The other day in the middle of the day I got up off the couch to make DS a bottle and as I walked past DH went to pass him to him and asked him to do his nappy- he said 'you're up anyway can you just do it' this was on his first day off for ages and I was looking forward to help with the relentless nappies etc. after a brief 'can you just do it' no can you' I gave up and muttered 'sure I'll do it that's what I'm used to' under my breath- he heard and had a massive paddy saying he hates how much he misses out on when at work and that it was a hurtful thing to say etc etc making me the bad guy!!! So I give up i don't kniw what to do with these DHs I might try a literal kick up the arse!

ds is still been a fussy thing with his feeds thinking it could possibly be teething so will see how we go. lily my dp is same says he misses him when he's at work etc but yet this morning he's managed to find himself some job to do so he doesnt have to deal with a cranky, hungry baby

Argh lost my post!

Basically, have 2 year age gap and love it but am now potty training which isn't fun!

Love being pregnant and giving birth so would quite like a third but would need to work out finances and logistics first.

19 weeks now and sleep definitely better.

Wrapping and cards today. Merry Christmas!

Sorry to moan! DH got up and apologised but then I couldn't sleep anyway argh. Lesson learnt - don't stay up til 2am talking when you have a four month old! Starting to feel festive anyhoo!

I have a story of hope to share! Ds went back to sleep until 9am after the 5am feed! So, so much better than what we've been having.
Dh had been out to buy pastries for breakfast while we were asleep, so a pretty good start to the day so far.
But, like slow said, we get some good and some shit. So after last night's good sleep, we've had we've had a wee all over the bed incident this morning.

I've been thinking the same about all the extra feeds tindel. I'm so hungry all the time!

I'm always wiping my nose on the muslin lily.

Sorry you are feeling shitty magrat. No idea how to sort your dh, but he does need to realise babies don't just self settle when they're ready to be up for the day. Any chance you can go out or for a nap or something? He'll soon work things out if he's 'in charge'.

kbb, I find the teething posters really good for caking Ds down before a feed.

Right...... Time to get those cards out 🎄

We have a roller! Suddenly this morning he just started and now you can't stop him. He's very bitey, too, pretty sure there's a tooth coming.

Going to try putting him in the pushchair today, I think. He's too damn big for the pram, and he's now rolling, and sort of sitting.

Go for it all you ladies wanting another one. I was the most unmaternal person ever until I had DD1 - would still love more!! My biggest age gap is 3 years and smallest gap is 22 months - you manage no matter what though.

Oops I missed a whole page of chat!!

slow what a little to get Head Teachers award! Sometimes I could burst with pride at things my DC do / achieve - it's an amazing feeling!!

Health Visitor came for 4 month check yesterday - what a complete waste of time! I really like her but I wanted DD weighed and she had forgotten her scales - asked me some standard questions - does she roll, sit or bear weight on her legs - no, no, no (very lazy baby!) and that was is - easiest job ever (apologies if any of you are HV!).

Spent this afternoon making some festive cakes - mad, forgot to buy Matchmakers for the 'arms' - kids don't notice though - they will be gobbled up in the next hour or less.........[santa]

Ooh exciting about teeth coming through for some of u

Fatty enjoy the sea life centre and lovely rainy blackpool. I'm not to far from there :)

Love the snowmen loves . What a cute idea. I can't wait to do stuff with dd when she's older.

Frolic whoohoo!!! Well done!!! Hope this is a start of things to come. There is hope for everyone out there.

I've had a lovely lazy day with dp and dd. We needed a chill day together. Housework can wait till tomorrow.

I had my annual girlie Xmas gathering last night. I left piper behind and she was a nightmare for dp. No idea why but he didn't tell me till I was on my way home anyway so I didn't kno . Felt sad knowing she had been so upset for 3 hours dp said. She's fine today so I think it was just because he didn't know how to handle her properly and I wasnt thereto take over when it was going well which I normally would have done. Anyone hopefully it was just a one off and she'll be ok with her next time he has her.

I can't stop eating! I look about 5 months pregnant. It's gross. Roll on January when the diet properly starts.

Siani well done on the rolling!

Magrat if it's any consolation it seems most men are like this. On the Facebook group there's almost a daily rant about partners and what uselessness they are up to today. There's the odd person with a decent one but a lot are all the same. They don't think the same way as us unfortunately.

I'm home and showered! DD loved the sea life centre. She kissed the sharks through the glass
We went to illuminasia too. That was a waste of money
Was told if was good and DD loves lights, so thought why not? It stank and the laser show was rubbish.

Popping in briefly to rant. Faith had nasty colic at inlaws, assumed dairy overdose and cut from diet for a week. Reintroduced cheese and was fine so tried a small bowl of cereal this am. Now 3 substantial voms including a curdled one and grumpy baby. Egg free is bad enough, can't face dairy free as well. That said she coped until the overdose at PILs on limiting dairy to one portion a day and night so might cut completely then reintroduce just processed dairy like cheese, possibly yoghurt etc and avoid milk.

Probably better discuss with HV as she's -over-due a weigh in anyway.

Oh well I need to lose more weight anyway!

Aww thanks for.letting me rant ladies! Talked to DH and it turns out he thought I had a bit of a martyr complex lately - I.e. Doing everything then moaning as he hadn't helped. He's been so good with DS tonight and did the bedtime routine. Just watched strictly and feeling much happier. Even broached my talk of number 2...

Thank you frolic you have given me hope! It's been a couple of weeks of 2am, 4am and 6am here at the dwarf house and it is seriously beginning to take its toll. Every night I go to bed thinking 'this could be the night that she drops the 2am feed again' only to be cruelly disappointed but if frolic baby can do it, then so can grumpy 2. Fingers crossed. What is your DH having for Christmas dinner? I found mine poring over identical looking [sludge-brown] nut roast recipes in the kitchen this morning so clearly the great Christmas veggie debate has begun again.

fatty glad that your DD loved the sea life centre. I was thinking of taking the dwarfs in the new year so glad to hear that it was fun.

lily and magrat sorry to hear that you are having annoying DH situations at present. I think, as dozy says its pretty common which hopefully should make it easier to put up with. I think you both deserve medals for your pragmatism though - I'm not sure I'd have it in me to be so calm. No-one opts out of nappy duty in the dwarf house, even grumpy 1 is expected to fill bowls of water and hand out cotton wool.

love yes, there is no feeling quite like being proud of your kids, it's one of the things that made it easier for me to decide to be a SAHM. I used to get all my confidence from being good at my job but now I get so much happiness from watching grumpy 1 grow up and do well that I don't feel like I need the external validation of being good at work. I was like you - not maternal at all until grumpy 1 came along (friends actually asked us if she was an 'accident' ) - it's amazing how the little beings change us

siani excellent news on the rolling. Well done Fergus!

dozy don't worry about Piper being a mischief for your DP, it's good for both of them to have to learn to get along by themselves. It'll strengthen their bond which can only be good for all three of you. Plus, probably helpful of your DP not to tell you what was going on otherwise you'd just have worried and it would have spoilt your night. DH never tells me what is happening while I am out, I just get a debrief when I get home and am actually in a position to do something about it.

tindel I am totally using this bastard sleep regression as an excuse to stuff my face. Its the only good thing about it

kbb sorry, I haven't said 'hallo!' yet. Teething is a pita, does mess up feeding something rotten. Hope today has been better for you and the little 'un.

Hopefully off to Dunham Massey to see Father Christmas tomorrow as the weather looks lovely. Maybe this will finally be the year that grumpy 1 doesn't freak out when she sees him...

Evening all!
A lovely, quiet day of not a lot chez frolic today. Still no cards done or presents wrapped, but we did manage to go out for coffe and cake of course!

Well done on the rolling Fergus! You will need eyes in the back of your head now siani! Ds is still getting stuck on his side.

Those look lovely loves. Bring some to mugabes later?

I'm sure that a few hours of struggling with Piper will do your dh good dozy. They need to know that this maternity leave is bloody hard work at times.
I also can't stop eating. I've been blaming the extra night feeds, but really I'm just a pig. Definitely not thinking about it until January though!

Glad dd had a great day fatty.

That's shit random. I don't drink milk, but Ds gets colicky if I have yogurt. I eat loads of cheese and he's fine after that. A word with the hv sounds like a good idea. Hopeful she'll have some good suggestions of where to start if you need to do cutting out / reintroducing.

How did the talk of number 2 go magrat?

We have seen 2, 4 and 6 so many times in the past few weeks slow. Let's hope frolicboy keeps up last night's good work and that grumpy 2 follows.
We are at my sisters for Christmas Day. Bil is cooking and dh has said he'll be happy with some frozen veggie sausages to avoid making extra work. The man is a fool - I am a firm believer that Christmas isn't right without turkey and pigs in blankets!
I hope you have a great Christmassy day tomorrow. I'm trying to find something festive for us to do on Christmas Eve as dh had just realised he's not working!

I hope you've all had a great Saturday 🎅🏻

Frolic your DH should be giving the test of ours lessons by the sounds of it- going out to get pastries whilst you sleep is amazing! Didn't he used to bring you the and toast every morning too? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Siani yay for the rolling- mine told isn't interested! He has noticed his feet the last couple of days though which is rather cute!! We're going to try the pushchair tommorrow too- have to try DNS remember how to convert it first! Doh!!

Loves those cakes are ace!!

Dozy- glad it's not just my DH who is useless but it still really annoys me he used to be so considerate and recently he just seems angry with the world and selfish- I know it's probably stemming from the stress of his job at the moment but I do the same job and I know he needs to find a way to switch off but don't know what to suggest/ how to help him. Oh and I've just totally fallen off my good eating wagon and gobbled half a box of choc orange segments!! 🐷 annoyed now as I only needed to lose at least an ounce to have achieved my Xmas weight target! Haha!

Fatty glad you had a good day shame about the lights.

Ransoms sorry about the dairy I don't quite know how I'd cope going dairy free so well done you!!

Been to the ILs today with his nan and grandad and aunty, une and cousins too for an early Xmas day- buffet food though yum! DH came for an hour then went on his boys day/night they've had planned since October and I don't begrudge him that despite my moaning about him today but omg it was hard work on my own!! His aunty and nana were literally arguing over who was holding DS at one point, when I finally got him to go to sleep after all the overstimulation and put him down in the cot they have upstairs they woke him up putting the new sound bar on full blast after 20 mins (no exaggeration the floor was vibrating!), kept being told how I should- 1. put him in cot and walk away ignoring him if he cries as I would make him too needy like their first child 2. The only reason he wakes in the night is food or dirty- he couldn't possibly just want a cuddle/ comfort so why don't I thicken his milk/ add rusk before bed so he doesn't get hungry and other pearls of outdated wisdom and before I left (escaped!) his mum lay him on a blanket on the floor because he was crying because 'he likes wriggling on his back doesn't he' ignoring me saying 'give him me he's just knackered now'!! Poor thing smelt of a million different perfumes and had glittery makeup on his face!!! Despite all this he barely cried and was still giving smiles out when we called to drop pressies at a friends on the way home, my little super star!

He has been gobbling milk like it's going to run out today again as well and after 2 hours appears to have fell asleep! Off to attempt for transfer.....

Aww what a little trooper! DH just doing dream feed I'm amazed! Talk went ok I think DH likes to have time to think and be all enigmatic so as long as he lets me know by when we're on holiday in June or fine
Grr have a sore throat starting. Probs see some of you in the bar later due to sleep regression. How about some sloe gin bellinis??

Omg anyone watch strictly?????!!!! Fix!!!!!!

MaGrat!! I watched it too!!! Without giving out a spoiler I really wanted the couple who were at the top of the leaderboard at the end to win!!
So gutted because I loved the other couple not because the winner was a crap dancer or anything.

I'll totally gave a sloe gin martini and a marmallow snowman of loveliness please.

DH is doing my head in.

DS in cot at 9, wakes at 10 shushed and dummy back to sleep, wakes at 12, shushed and dummy and now being fed at 12:30am.

Honestly how some of you have the patience for a two hour stint of trying to get babes to go to sleep I don't know. I really am having a down couple of days and have had enough tbh. She's being a bit of a Velcro baby and only wants me, which is fine, but DH is making it worse and even when I give him advice he doesn't do it or I get told off for nagging. He's now got to go back into work on Monday (probably a good thing) and tbh I'm dreading him getting under my feet until January as he just is more of a hindrance than a help with her. :(

I'm so tired HAHAHAHAHA I meant DD not DS - I don't have a son?! Blaaaaaaaa