November 2014 - The one where they outrun us!

[MrsAukerman]

New thread ladies.

Hi all dh still in hospital scope done and now able to swallow they toppk biopsies but thinking severe acid reflux as very in flamed gastro doc said should been done Fri but ent docs messed up referral and was too late then sat he was on call n dh wasn't classed as emergency.

Hopeful for discharge today as dh moved to a ward where all 3 others are high dependency in his bay and he got forgotten no dinner had to ask 3 times then goit given lasanga at 7pm which he struggled to eat as too claggy he had ordered so mething easy to eat.

Boys are been great considering

Oh eastmids that's awful... Fingers crossed it all moves quicker now for him.

Oh eastmids - hope everything goes more smoothly for your DH now...

Think DD has said good bye to the chicken pox - yay! Off back to nursery tomorrow . If anyone else gets it, can really recommend Virasoothe: like eastmids said, it costs a lot (about £11 for a tube), but it was money well spent imo.

Naps and sleeping going a bit wonky at the mo - for the last week or so, she'll cry out in the night every 2-3 hours and so we'll wake up, but I'm not convinced she's woken - we do have to go in most times just to reassure her, but it takes about a minute of 2, then that's it...doesn't sound too bad (and it's not considering what some are going through!), but to be woken up every 2-3 hours is beginning to take it's toll...Naps are also a law unto themselves...this morning she fell asleep at 8.30! Mind you, the day started around 5.15am... For the last few days we've been having 2 x 30 min naps each day - NOT ENOUGH!!!

Dh is home both boys wedge very excited.

Bloody baby been up twice already tonight I am knackered given ibuprofen as have 2 molars coming although not distressed just crossing pain off the list!!

eastmids glad your DH is home. Hope you are all recovering. Your posts reminded me of this time last year when DH was in hospital in London and I was at home with DDs unable to visit.

DD is better now, so has gone back to nursery to collect some more germs . We could tell the day she felt better as she stopped sleeping. She has gone back to having about 20mins nap total in a day. She has also decided she hates her cot. We put her to bed reasonably well, but she wakes up some time before we go to bed and won't go back in it. She screams and screams. She now sleeps in our bed for at least part of the night and we spend a lot of the time between her bedtime and ours going up to her and trying to get her back to sleep. DH has taken to sleeping on the settee if she is our bed from early in the night :(

Oh dear eastmids glad DH is home and hope he's feeling better and it doesn't flare up again.
Glad baby havent is better and back at nursery!

I had my first night away from DD on saturday, went up to Nottingham where I went to uni, with my friends and we had a great day and night reminiscing and drinking... I really tested my pelvic floor muscles there was so much hysterical laughter as so many memories came back that we had forgotten. We sneaked into our old accommodation and were going to say hi to some students in one of our old rooms... until we realised we were just 6 cackling middle aged ladies and would probably have terrified the poor 18 year olds! Anyway much fun was had and DD and DH had a good time together.
Think this has knocked BF on the head though - we were only doing a quick feed first thing but the past month she hasn't wanted much, as soon as she wakes up properly she is wanting to be off exploring. And some days she didn't want it at all, so my poor boobs don't know if they're coming or going! Hopefully will only take a few days for them to get the message and settle down.

DD has limpet phases too. I'm currently trying to decide whether to get a scootababy hip carrier - she doesn't like the Ergo any more but is happy on my hip, and there are still lots of times when it would be very convenient to have a carrier stashed in the car so I can have hands free. Tried it at our sling library and it's awesome, but they're £80 new and I don't really know how long we'll get out of it...

Oh Wow that's very tough happy.

The other night we actually tried to bring DS in with us in a bout of desperation and he became hysterical! I guess he didn't recognise the room in the dark.

In a way it was a relief but that option is definitely closed to us. At least now we know. That said he's slept through the last 2 nights thank god.

The toddler tantrums have suddenly begun this week though! If he's denied something he has a full on crying meltdown! Very tedious tbh. Anyone else get tantrums yet?

We certainly get emotional meltdowns especially when tired. If i say No to her her little bottom lip starts to wobble and the tears appear and she's bawling. If she's tired then the tears can carry on for ages regardless of our intervention! If she's not too tired I can usually distract her, touch wood...

She really does appear genuinely heartbroken when you say No to her. Her nursery room leader told me the first time she saw her reaction she immediately backtracked, haha! Luckily she's toughening up to the waterworks!

Yeah, DH just stands there utterly stricken! His own lip almost starts to wobble! I told him he's gonna have to deal with it cos its going to go on for aloooong time yet.

Then he said "and another one after that!" And we both went shiiiiiiiit.....

We definitely get tantrums here but until recently she’s easily distracted and me and dp call her out for being a ‘faker’ but last night she went absolutely mental when I wouldn’t give her my ice cream. She threw herself back and screamed at the top of her voice, she sounded really angry and frustrated and could not be consoled. She’s always had a bit of a temper though so it’s not come out of the blue.

The last 3 nights have been hideous (compared to the last few weeks of 1 wake up), every 2 hours. I think she’s teething and has a cold and the combination it tough. Her nappies are hideous and she keeps running a temp. She’s off her food which NEVER happens, she’s even less into the boob than normal. We do first thing feed and then again at around 5ish but she now and again is too busy playing to feed so I think we’re winding down but I can’t imagine giving up altogether, she gets SO angry when I say no!! I’ll wait for her to have enough. (Even when I read your post Moggle, the talk of it made me tingle/let down!)

moggle which version of the Ergo do you have? Mine and the one before could do hip carries?

Eastmids Glad you’re all back together.

strawberry you’re right of course, about waiting, the more I think about it the more I’m coming round to the idea, practically it makes a lot of sense.

ladydolly I'm interested to see if DD really even notices the boob is gone. She has only ever once actually made any concerted effort to get at my boob when it wasn't accessible, when she was about 11m and I tried to shorten a night feed, she lifted my top back up and latched back on... So I'm hoping I don't have to say no to her!
I've tried the ergo hip carry a couple of times and found it pretty uncomfortable, the scootababy was designed for hip carries so is much more comfy. Just found a second hand one on ebay so have bought it although was still £60 (will be telling DH it was £40 I think! And reminding him our Ergo was only £9.). It has a cat design on it which would've been my choice of pattern so decided it was a sign that I ought to get it!

Hi all

So sorry about your dh east! How stressful for you all, dd1 would be devastated if her dad was in hospital so I can imagine your older ds was very anxious about it.

anna how are you feeling, are you v pukey or just a bit?

We have just finished breastfeeding totally, no feeds for about 7 or 8 days now. It was really fine, much less of a wrench than stopping with dd1 as dd2 was taking less and less. She has totally switched allegiance now to her bedtime bottle even my mum was a bit on my behalf when she saw dd scurrying off to collect her bottle before bed! Some nights she's sleeping through twelve straight hours but more often than we'd like she's awake for many hours. She has a nasty little cough and is teething but it's so hard to know what to do with her when she wakes. After a bit of complaining she's usually ok to lie back down while we sit beside her but doesn't fully go back to sleep. I gave her 3oz last night after being up with her for 2 hours - which she was thrilled with but then there was utter rage once she'd drained that and no more was forthcoming. She did eventually go back to sleep though.

Naps are a joke at the minute. Mostly it's just one extremely short (30mins) nap. Nursery reckons she will eventually stretch this but I have my doubts.

Yes to both clingyness and tantrums but both are usual for her! Lots of fun as well, helping herself to all of big sister's toys.

She has just had her MMR jab, had it a bit late for various reasons. Can you all remind me how your babies got on after? I know about the potential symptoms 8 days on etx but any issues in the immediate aftermath? Cranky today but no temp.

Thanks all happy I remember your dh being in last year as my dh had a stay for a knee op and was hard work but found this time easier hoping no repeat stays.

Hip carry - we use a ring sling. Perfect for quick ups and downs and also totally hands free whereas the scootababy or similar are a carrying aid rather than full support.
Sleep a bit shit here too after a previous patch of sleeping through, molars are buggers aren't they? They seem to be through then you realise there's loads more tooth to come.

Another one here definitely developing her own will and letting us know when she's unhappy with not getting her own way - yesterday she actually laid down on her tummy and thrashed around with her arms and legs screaming blue murder (that was a first). Normally we get the bottom lip going out flat and then her face crumples and the crying / shouting starts. Depending on how tired she is we can sometimes rescue the situation (thankfully!).

No molars here (yet) - in fact I'm beginning to wonder if she's going to end up with only 2 bottom front teeth....she's got 4 at the top but only the 2 at the bottom - and they were the 1st to come through about 6 months ago!

haven't - dd was the same for ages re teeth but the other night when I was giving her teeth a good clean with a muslin which we don't do often enough I could feel quite a few more in there had broken through. Can't see anything yet but it explains a bit I suppose!

As for the tantrums, dd's signature move is to fling herself backwards in dramatic fashion and then go floppy as you're trying to lower her to the floor without letting her creel her head. There is also a vein in her neck which dh and I refer to as the Vein of Doom - it pulses.

Lots of tantrums and throwing herself back and screaming if something's not her way. She recently has been easing off with clinginess, December was probably the worse of it. Last weekend while down with fever she wanted to be in bed with us constantly hugged up with one of us.

halfstar we had no problems after the 13 month jabs. I was quite suprised but it was grand.

So far I'm actually less ill than with DS. Other than the occasional dramatic run to the loo which is to be expected. But 90% of the time its really fine. I remember it being a lot more continuous with DS. I was really haunted by nausea 24/7 the last time. Its not like that.

I am tired though. I had a shower earlier and it almost wiped me out! And if I'm changing a nappy and DS runs off before I can get his trousers on I just let him run around in his jumper and nappy until he hoves into reach. Picking my battles!

We've made the epic decision to send DS to creche for the first time over this coming summer. Its to give me time to take care of the baby. I say epic decision as it costs....wait for it.....€9000 for a year flat rate.

But without family support I just dont think I could do it without a creche. Are you guys paying comparable rates?

Anna How many days will he be going? Our nursery charges £53.24 a day and that is a reduced rate because it is linked to DH's workplace and so he gets a discount and pays through salary sacrifice. It's £218.10 a week for full time! I have to say I was grateful for DD1's nursery days when DD2 was newborn so I had one-on-one time with DD2 and knew that DD1 was having fun and doing interesting things there rather than entertaining herself/ watching too much CBeebies at home while I tried to feed her sister.

They charge a flat rate cos they're "holding the place". So even if you only use it one hour a day, or 6 months out of the year, thats the price. But the logic is that the place is there for him always, its up to us after that.

(well technically they explain it as €180 a week, but then you swiftly realise that 52 weeks is non-negotiable. I didnt add it up till I was outside on my phone and then I hyperventilated a bit)

That's a bit mad Anna! We have to pay for 51 weeks a year regardless of holidays etc, but we can choose just the days we want, so she goes for two days a week and we are paying £69 a day I think (just went up). That includes food for the whole day, and nappies and wipes, and formula when she was smaller.
Definitely think it's a good idea to give you some rest after DC2 arrives, and some one to one time with them, but wow that's an insane price. Surely there are places that will take them for just a few days a week if that's what you need?

I mean like you say it's not an insane price if he's in every day but if you don't need all day every day care then it's a lot.

I could look elsewhere but this place is 5 mins walk away and the next door neighbours toddlers go and are very happy there.

So I could bring him around really easily when I'm knackered and bleeding

Think we'd have to get in the car for everywhere else.

The only way you could do two/three days is if some other person does the other days. So both kids = one total place. Unlikely to get someone to fit around your days and then of course there'd be no flexibility I.e. One week you need Wednesday instead of Tuesday, as there's another kid there instead.

Wow that is pretty strict. But I guess if there's nothing else around they can do whatever the hell they want! I wonder how they manage the staff ratios. If I want DD to go for an extra day on top of her usual days, they have to check who's on the rota to see if they have enough staff in the room, and I sometimes get told no she can't come.