November 2014: The one that needs baby-proofing!

[ladydolly]

And maybe ends with 1st birthdays!!

Ark this is happening to me. Its teeth related here.

One thing I won't do is take him out of the room. If he knows he can get somewhere more interesting he'll always try it. Its like training a dog, isnt it? Dogs only give up when they learn its never gonna happen.

We have a horrible kitchen chair in the room and I sit in that with him and he goes to sleep on me. And dose him up with Nurofen.

Its not a solution by any means - there are times I've been in that chair for 2 hrs. Every time I put him in the cot I have to start all over again. But at least its not the whole night. And he doesn't even comprehend that other beds exist, which helps.

The trouble is im so tired it ends up being dangerous for me to sit holding her on the chair. I almost dropped her last night, then when I tried to persevere the night before she made herself sick from crying and then headbutted me i know it was an accident but still im bitter

Plus my friends 4 month old is sleeping through 9-8 and it's giving me the rage.

You poor thing, it will end tho, I promise. If you have any spare room/cash a feeding chair will really help. I got a rocking kiddicare one from gumtree for 50 quid and it tilts so far back I frequently drop off while feeding dd with no danger of dropping her.

Its so tough though when you're in the middle of it..

Ark there is nothing wrong with co sleeping if you choose to just read how to do it safely and just nod at interfering family or use 2 words that start with f and end with f. :)

Ark, I completely agree with East - nothing wrong with co-sleeping as long as you're doing it safely. This link may help you: www.isisonline.org.uk/hcp/where_babies_sleep/parents_bed/prevalence_of_bedsharing/
I was pointed in its direction by a helpful BF advisor when I got it in the neck from an unhelpful HV for co-sleeping when it was the only way I could get any sleep at all...made me feel much better about it . I did this before we implemented the sleep training around 5.5 months and agin at about 8 months when for 3 weeks her sleeping was a nightmare. I'm REALLY hoping that she had the 9 month sleep regression a month early....

Am going to give the shopping trolley a go this week - after I've wedged her in a bit

havent - we use the trolleys that have a toddler seat next to a baby seat, that way she's wedged inbetween the side of the trolley & the baby seat & can't go anywhere.

Sorry to hear about your nights Ark, afraid no solutions but hoping they improve soon.

DD waved bye to DH this morning & said 'bah bah'! She's not said much for a week or 2 so it was a nice surprise! She's leaning onto her arms from sitting & desperately trying to reach stuff so suspect she is working on her crawling skills at last!

DD loves going in the trolley at the supermarket, though she does suck the bars at every opportunity. Dh gets lots of female attention when he takes her to the supermarket, I just get old ladies talking to me.

Had a lovely time today out with my sister and her son who's nearly one. He's only just started crawling and it was lovely to see him and DD crawling around together in the sand pit at the park.

I spent nearly 5 hours away from ds today which is the longest ever.
Dh coped really well and even managed to get him to nap.
We have had a couple of episodes of standing while holding onto nothing. Probably a couple of seconds each time. Very impressed!

Oooh lovely amy!

DS has started "cruising". Thats when they move along holding onto furniture, right? So now he's even more dangerous. Great....

He has also started crawling over to me when I'm at the sink washing up, pulling himself up my pants and standing there whining whilst sticking his head in between my knees. Its very awkard as a) my hands are all soapy so I cant do anything about it, and b) he usually manages to pull my pants down. This morning after breakfast I was wearing pyjamas with no knickers underneath....

We realised today he has 3 teeth. Thats the first 3 in the space of a week or so. No wonder its been hard going lately. Poor baba.

We are actively TTC by the way. I must be bonkers.

Well, the non-sleeping wonderchild strikes again. She woke up every 10 minutes for the first couple of hours last night, then just wouldn't be put back in the cot. However fast asleep she appeared to be in my arms, she was wide awake and screaming as soon as I very gently put her back. I spent hours sitting in the (uncomfortable but expensive present from DH) rocking chair freezing in her bedroom. Calpol and teething gel made no difference. Eventually got to lie down by putting a thin duvet on the floor and feeding her lying on it. At 2am I managed to move us to my bed within waking her up where she slept for 3 whole hours. DH thinks she must be coming down with something and will be too tired so shouldn't go to nursery, so I have to take 2 children to meet DD1's new teacher and to the dentist:(

Oh Happy - hopefully she feels better today and you get more sleep tonight.

Another dense first-time-mother question.....when do we start "brushing" their teeth / wiping toothpaste over them? I mean I know her teeth are only just making an appearance, but has anyone started this yet, or is everyone doing it but me?!

Dd has had a raging ear infection and high temp over the last few days she's now on antibiotics and is in awful form, can't put her down at all. Horrible start to nursery :( I feel like just taking a year out and sah until she's older, I really hate this.

Sorry just having a moan!
happy would it be worth getting her ears checked ?

Haven't, I've been smearing a bit of toothpaste on the brush, giving her teeth a quick brush and then she takes over and chews the toothbrush until I take it off her, so I'm hoping that's good enough. I think I read somewhere that you are supposed to start brushing them as soon as they come through.

Thanks for your advice ladies. I think for the moment im just going to stick it out maybe until we go away for the weekend at the end of October.

Dp and I went out for dinner last night and left dd with my friend who is a childminder, she woke up at 9 and happily played till 11 with my friend who she just adores, we left the resturant at half 9 and got home just after midnight thanks to a drunk driver crashing into 3 parked cars then stopping in the middle of the road and trying to persuade us to hide his car. We had to wait around and give police statements and wait for the dog unit etc. It was mad! The guy blew 131 on the breathalyser !

My shoulder and neck ache from holding her most of the night and lying on the floor. DH keeps moaning about the lack of sleep and how it will be when I am at work, but at the moment he silences the monitor and goes to sleep while I sit in DD's room for ages. It won't be great for him when I am at work, but I haven't slept for more than a few hours at a time for over 10 months and it is only going to get worse once I have to get up at 6am (earlier if I am going to express milk for my own comfort) and do a 13hr shift on so little sleep, so I lack sympathy for him.
green I don't think it is her ears. She was pulling at one last night even after calpol but not this morning. Could she have earache that is much worse when lying down? Is that a thing? (I should probably be the one who knows the answer from professional knowledge and my own childhood ear infections). Hope your DD is better soon.

Why shouldn't they go in swings until 1? DD loves swinging. I have been putting her in the swing at the park and in the shopping trolley for ages.

I didn't know about no swings till 1, dd has been in the shopping trolley for ages too though we've not been to the park yet.

Yeah both shopping trolley and swings here too.

We are using Nurofen every second night here. It does work quickly most of the.time. I don't think Calpol is strong enough for nights, tbh.

I'm also discovering an interesting thing - if we can get away with no Calpol at bedtime he wakes by 11pm and I give him Nurofen and he sleeps through. Whereas if I have to give Calpol at bedtime it wears off around 2.30 and then it's a nightmare.

It sounds bad but if he is going to get woken by his teeth I'd rather it be before I go to sleep!

The swing thing I read somewhere, possibly on mumsnet, but like most advice I've used my own common sense. It's because their necks aren't strong enough but it's not like I'm pushing her hard and fast and I've been doing it for months.

We were up every 90 minutes last night, if I didn't have such an amazing chair I think I'd cry, I fall asleep while I feed her and then pop her back in the cot. Also grateful that it takes me approximately 0.7 seconds to fall asleep. I reckon I'm still getting 5 hours a night. (Oh how I would have complained at that pre baby but I think that's my new minimum to function)

It sounds like all of us are going through this lot of shit nights all at the same time!

Finally got to speak to a HV about DDs sleep and wish I hadn't! She was so condescending and told me it was just a bad habit to still be feeding her during the night and that I have to teach her to self settle and there's no other answer. I said I'd tried a few times but now that she can move she just gets up and screams if I leave her in the cot awake. When I tried it before she was like a caged animal pacing backwards and forwards in her cot, and I can't deal with that in my sleep deprived state! When I said I don't think that's going to work the HV just went quiet, so I thought 'time to end this conversation', they just come out with stock standard answers, I'm sure I've read somewhere that babies can still need milk in the night at this age.

I'm seeing someone from the surestart centre on Friday so I will see if she has any better suggestions. Perhaps I'm being pathetic but I don't want to see my daughter suffer when I can just feed her. We had a relatively good night last night, only 3 wake ups, because I think she wore herself out crawling around in the sand yesterday. I think she needs more exercise and stimulation to sleep more deeply and not wake up as much, but what do I know!

Caz give her some algebra, that will serve her right haha.

Sorry the HV was useless though. Dd doesn't always need a nightfeed, just wants to cuddle up to me in bed

Ark it was much easier to find this thread than I thought it would be! Thank you

Hello again everyone I lost you all way back in the months that dd actually slept at night and I managed to sleep catch up on tv too!

Now she's hit the 9m mark sleep is an absolute nightmare, I could have actually written arks post regarding sleeping a few hours sound in her cot then she's up and wanting into my bed and will not settle to she gets there!

The night she hit 9months she stopped settling even in our bed, once she woke she would crawl and climb around the cot whinging and crying looking into our bed and yes I gave in to get some sleep...she now won't sit still she's half asleep but wriggling every way round the bed as if she's trying to get comfy but can't and she's crying because she's so tired but can't get over to sleep help!!

I don't think gentle parenting and HVs go together. We had DS' 9m check today and she didn't ask if he slept through but if she listened properly she'd have deduced that he didn't. She didn't bat an eyelid!

Yay hi excited glad you found us! All of us are having sleep issues at the moment. Welcome to the zombie club

Erm is the 9 month check something everyone has? I haven't heard from my HV for months