August 2015 - Let the Sleepless Nights Commence

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My DC2 was born on 5th August and I'm up in the wee hours feeding away. Anyone else with their August babies care to join me?

I still can't believe he's here and in my arms!

love I was very smug with DS1 walking so early. That soon passed! It was hell. I had to stop a very young baby climbing anything he could find, was constantly on high alert in case he got hold of something he shouldnt have, because even with friends who had a baby the same age, they weren't set up for mobile babies!
When DD started young it was a case of "oh for fucks sake, not this again"

I'm dreading DS2 becoming Mobile I like them small and squishy and still!

dozy hope you feel better soon. It's awful being unwell with a baby. I had swine flu when DS1 was a baby. Luckily he didn't catch it! I don't know how but him and my DB were fine, everyone else in the house were like zombies.
But he made up for not having swine flu by getting chicken pox at 8 weeks! Argh!
I'm full of a cold myself, again, and just want to sleep it off, but I've got to go get dressed and go sainsbos and to my mums now. I hope you manage some rest

See you all later.

Lily is really bizarre but yes. I do sort of miss being pregnant despite hating it at the time (horrible sickness) and going 13 days overdue so was so fed up by the end. But I do find myself occasionally wanting to stroke my bump again.

Dozy we get both with fussiness. Sometimes just pulling on and off. Wiggling around and hitting my boob. And other times full on screaming, even when my boob is his mouth (which I find really upsetting) My current technique is to take him off, give a cuddle and try and calm him (sometimes even give dummy if he won't calm) and then try again on other boob. Doesn't always work as sometimes can't calm him. So then just try other boob anyway. Tis so hard isn't it? DS is much worse for this in the evenings. Apparently they go through this phase at around 6 to 8 weeks so hoping it will pass.

Today is dads and lads day and am v looking forward to the space. (With a touch of anxiety thrown in about him being away from me. Silly I know).

Dozy I am the same about leaving DS with my DH in the evenings (day time fine) Would much rather leave him with my mum. DH just doesn't really try to comfort him through the colic. Seems to think just holding him in one hand and his phone in the other is ok. Although he would be really upset if he knew I felt like this. And as clstow said, I think it would do him some good. Maybe just need to bite the bullet.

Hope everyone has a lovely Saturday.

Important update!

Aldi Jaffa cakes, while not as good as Lidl, are better than Mcvities and on a par with Markies.

That is all.

Your Jaffa cake research is to be commended!! I 'may' have added a few boxes to my online shopping!!! Rarrr!

Had a shocker if a night. Dd overslept yesterday during the day on her midday nap so had gone 6hrs + without food when I woke her to feed her. I still don't know if this was the right decision btw?!!
So then her evening was off kilter, plus the fact that I think I may have given her a bath that was too hot (I'm a total fuck!! ) as then she didn't feed properly before bed. She slept about 2hrs is then wouldn't be consoled as she was trying to push out hard constipated pebbles so was wide awake by the time she finished and so wouldn't settle in her moses at all! All in all it ended with me decamping downstairs with her and sleeping on the sofa with her on me until morning.

To top it off DH is now on pat leave for s week and instead of being happy he's now around I basically opened a can of worms about feeling like I'm crap at this parenting malarkey and I need more love and support etc. and literally cried in his face. Poor guy!!
Babies really do impact marriages!!

I've just taken the dogs for an hour walk in the braes so feel better but my goodness when does the hormonal craziness decrease!?!

Sorry for the whinge ladies, I clearly have depleted blood/chocolate levels!!

Can't remember who said it yo thread by yes yes to DHs not comforting/entertaining DD properly. He seems to have an eye constantly on the telly or trying to look at his phone. My phone stuff is delayed for napping babies who pin you to the sofa - like now!!

Plus, and I can't believe I'm saying this, I bloody well miss sex!!

mzzzf if you feel up to it, and your DD will allow you to lie her down, then it doesn't matter if she's awake. She won't know what's happening, even if she is in the cot in the same room as you.

Just putting it out there

Omg after a week of shocking nights and me basically turning in to a brain dead mess DS only woke twice between 9pm-9am. Hurrah! Not naive enough to think it'll last but my goodness I feel better today.

Yep, my OH is the same - often on his phone while with DS. But he does invent silly repetitive songs which DS loves so i shouldn't bitch about him too much.

I hear you on the big boobs ladies, dread to think what they'll be like post BF. Will invest in some seriously good bras then.

I've had the same cry at my OH MzzzF - I think it's being overtired as well as hormones. Hope you get some serious help now your DH is on pat leave.

How did you get on without your boys today kbro?

I'm missing X Factor tonight, can't wait for the rugby to be over and normal service to resume.

Hey ladies. We've been awol as DS had his jabs on Fri and it really knocked him off kilter poor mite. Calpol is amazing stuff but was wearing off before the next dose was due. So heartbreaking to see him suffer and DD was getting jealous as we had to stay home and DS needed lots of cuddles and feeds so she wasn't getting much attention. I was in tears when they were both asleep as I felt so guilty over both of them and like a crap mum. I'm with Mzzzf in hoping the hormones settle down soon.

We get the boob fussing too. I think my letdown is too fast and chokes him. He never fusses with the bottle which is a bit demoralising. I'm adopting the same technique as Kbro to settle him when he screams during a feed and try and recline as much as possible to slow my flow!

I have massive G cup boobs too and leak everywhere. I have to double up on breastpads or I have huge wet patches. Have bought the night time bras from Mothercare for sleeping. My daytime bras are from Debenhams and I love them. They are supportive and look good.

Sex has happened in the nolonger house a few times in the last few weeks but I do feel a bit weird knowing DS is in the room! I was the same with DD. I also don't like DH playing with my boobs now because they don't feel sexual just functional at the moment. Anyone else feel like this?

I really miss being pregnant too. Love people seeing the bump and sharing looks with other pregnant women as if we're in a special club. Love feeling baby move inside and the excitement and anticipation of what's to come. I can't imagine not being pregnant again even though we thought we'd stop at 2. I have a history of miscarriages so we said no more as don't want to go through any more heart ache on that front but the joy of a happy 12 week scan is wonderful after a scary early pregnancy.

My DD was a late walker (17 months) and never rolled so I hope this one's the same. A bolting toddler and an early walker would require more eyes than I have!

DH out tonight so I'm chilling on the sofa with junk food and a mini bottle of prosecco! Love reading the thread and hearing everyone's news. I think we're all doing pretty fab everything considered.

All three DCs fast asleep, so I'm going to snuggle up with DP and watch the blacklist (watching the second season) hopefully Nathan sleeps for a while then we can actually have some "us" time.

Awwww I'm jealous of all the settled babies. Mini mzzzf has been a right PITA this evening. Really unsettled, not taking all her bottles and the drool and saliva is EVERYWHERE!!! How does a small child produce this much drool?! I'm soaked! Plus she keeps ramming her fists into her mouth - arrrghh!

Bagsy not being up all night! Anyone want to tag in?!

See dozy that's what I mean- the looks from people in public and feeling all happy and proud like you say Siani!

I stopped bf at 6 weeks- he had 4 weeks exclusive and another 2 combo because it made me an actual crazy person so I had to stop. So impressed so many of you have persevered and are still going but have to say I'm glad I no longer have to put up with the leaking or fussing! I was like you Siani- had to wear a bra constantly to keep the breast pads in I had to change a million times a day! Every feed required a change of clothes for me and LO as he would head bob around and my fast flow would spray all over everywhere! Much more to it but I was crying at least 10 times a day and so it was better for me, baby and DH for me to move onto FF as happy mum= happy baby. Part of me feels a bit selfish writing that down when you are all doing so well with it but can't put into words how crazy it was making me, wasn't enjoying feeding or being a mum because of it! Anyway my point was I am a member of itty bitty titty club (love that name btw!) they got a bit bigger when ph but no where near what I had been promised haha and then as soon as I stopped by they have got SMALLER!!!! How is that fair!!!? Gonna post this then read he next page! I can't remembe what's been said if I can't keep scrolling up- complete baby brain!!!

Kbro- yay you too glad it's not just me missing it- that's the weird Hong for me too- didn't enjoy it but still miss it! How did dad and lad day go?

Mzzf- sorry you had a crappy night and hormonal day, hope it's better tonight!

Another one here whose DH gets more preoccupied with his phone/ generally had his priorities the wrong way! Don't get me wrong he is usual really helpful and is amazing with the baby but occasionally seems to forget he isn't number 1 any more (his not mine)- today I was about to nip the shop and said to him 'can you feed the baby he's hungry' to which he replied I'm just about to make a brew and have some biscuits so will do when I've had that!!! He said he was starving as he'd got up after his night shift and not eaten (whose fault is that?!) and when I said LO was as he was beginning to whinge he just huffed!! Needless to say I fed him and didn't go the shop for my treats for cheat day- bugged me as I have totally shifted my priorities but he hasn't! That said he's usually pretty good so I didn't say anything as he was probably just sleepy/ grumpy from nights!

Fatty- at having sex with baby in same room- I know loads of people do and baby doesn't know/ remember but I don't think I could get in the mood! The 2 times we have done since he was born we've waited till he was asleep and then tiptoed into the guest bedroom like naughty teenagers giggling!! I'm going to feel right funny when people next stay over knowing what that bed has become!! Haha!

Nolonger- yes to the 'special club' and knowing looks with other pg ladies!! Nail on the head there! I saw one of the ladies from aquanatal at a baby group this week and it made me miss Aqua natal! Near the end of the class parents of the kids in the lessons after ours would start arriving on the viewing balcony and I'd feel all smug at them not being able to be in our exclusive club!

Fatty- blacklist is amazing isn't it!! Enjoy your evening! We have just watched the first episode of series 3 and I thinks going to be just as good!!

First evening here I've put Luca upstairs watching him on the monitor it feels sooooo weird!!! I was going to go to bed early tonight but making myself have a cup of tea and mumsnet downstairs before I go up as he was asleep in my arms until a film finished at 9.30 so he would only have been up there half an hour if I'd gone to bed at 10! Think I've watched the monitor more than the TV but I'm proud of myself for doing it! Lol!

Where are people up to on the Aunt Flo front? I know a lot of you are bf so probably still absent but anyone who isn't has yours returned? How many weeks post natal? I had my 6-8 week check this week (at 9 weeks!) and doc thought he was a comedien suggesting I do a pg test as mine isn't back and asking hilariously if I was sure we'd used condoms every time we'd had sex!!! I want another baby but not yet- scared the life out of me!! So been wondering since if it should be back yet! Aside from thinking he was funny doc didn't seem too concerned they weren't when I pointed out I was really irregular pre preg.

Rigt I'll shut up now I've been jabbering in haven't I!!

Mzzzf my phone battery is about to die but had to say it sounds like your little one is teething! Those are classic signs x

mzzzf yep sounds like teething. Nathan is starting too by the look of things. He's the same. Dribbly and drooly and constantly chewing his fist.

lily re: AF mine came back at 6 weeks. I stop bleeding quite quickly after having all 3, and then periods always returned by 6 weeks. I wouldn't worry too much if I was you though, I've been told by midwifes I'm fast at recovering! (Tell my bloody pelvis that then!)

Nooooo it can be teething can it!? I thought that did t happen until 4-6 months!!! Wowzers! Might this also explain her crankiness and weird eating/sleeping routine lately?
What do I do to help her??

Re AF: I'm not had one yet and I'm 9 weeks post birth.... No sex here though so deffo not preggo

Mzzf hope u get a better sleep.

Joskar I really need some jaffa cakes now but id prob eat the whole packet which is no good on weightwatchers. Went out for tea and chose the boring simply chicken option with jacket potato. Bleurgh. So bland. Compensated with 2 glasses of wine. Felt drunk! Lost a nipple shield while I was out and couldn't find the spare one so had a major breakdown. Then found said nipple shield. Still got one missing though. Dp said I'm not allowed to drink again if that's what's going to happen because dd was crying at the same time and he couldn't deal with us both lol.

She has just slept 6 hours. I can't believe it. Gave her an extra ounce in her bottle so maybe that's why. Or it might be a fluke because she didn't sleep much yesterday so was probably extra tired

Took her swimming today. She liked bobbing around in the water but we tried dunking her to get an underwater shot with the gopro but she did appreciate that. Will keep taking her though so she gets used to it.

On a side note swimming helped her poo. She hadn't pooed in 7 days, it was only a little poo while swimming but then later on she did more. It's still green in colour and she's going days between pooing so I'm still slightly worried that she's not getting enough milk so that's why there's not much poo. I do feel like I sit and feed her all day long though. She's gaining weight though so something must be working.

I'm terribly impressed by how many of you are managing to have sex!! I just can't imagine how I can possibly do it. I'm constantly joined at the boob to the baby, and I smell like sour milk and vomit within half an hour of a bath, and I've only stopped bleeding this week! And my sex drive is AWOL.
We've tried reading to Fergus this week and oh my god, he is WELL into it! We put him in the bouncy chair and show him the pictures and he's just enraptured, looking at the bits we point at and listening so intently. It's awesome! He's really getting so much more interactive this week.

Dozy I bought several sets of nipple shields when I was struggling with feeding at the start and never even took some out of the packaging because I managed to stop using them after about 2 days. If you pm me your address I'll stick the unopened ones in the post to you so you have more spare! They're just sitting in a box here as I can't be fucked returning them to Amazon.

mzzzf some babies are born with teeth!
And some really struggle. My DD was dribbly and cranky for 3 months before her first tooth arrived. Other babies are fine. DS1 started at 4 months and had a tooth within 4 days.

Bonjela can't be used until 12 weeks i think. I'm not sure about other teething specific things though. If she does seem in pain give her calpol. (Rosy Red, hot cheeks are also a sign)

I feel like a new woman this morning - DS slept a five hour stretch from midnight and DD didn't wake up until 8.45!

Re teething, Dentinox can be used from birth. My DD had teething symptoms for months before a tooth popped through. I think in some babies the movement under the gums causes more discomfort than the actual breakthrough.

Fatty- my bleeding stopped quite quickly too 2/3 weeks! Mzzf- that makes me feel abit better that mines still absent!

Wow to the 6 hour sleep dozy!! Might have been the swimming that made her tired too. It's horrible to worry about them but having eaten enough isn't it I was like that at the start and got him weighed weekly for reassurance! Like you say if she's gaining then she must be getting enough.
Got mine starting 'sing and swim' in 2 weeks it's a little class getting them used to the water with games and songs sounds quite cute! Need to find him a swimming outfit though- wrong time of year none of the shops seem to have them! Going to have to go online I think!

Siani- the smell and never feeling clean were further reasons i stopped bf and didn't want sex whilst bf either so I wouldn't worry it's probably hormonal! Within a week of stopping my sex drive came zooming back I feel like a teenager again!! Lol! Aww the reading sounds amazing! We've collected quite z little library for Luca but hardly read to him yet think we'll start tommorrow after DH isn't in nights any more so the evenings sing be such a rush!

Oh I also wanted to say does anyone else feel like announcing they have a newborn if they are out without them? When I was pregnant everyone could tell but now I'm just another person if the baby isn't with me and I want the world to know about him and how amazing he is! It's silly I know but I went for my flu jab and left him at home and all I kept thinking was "none of you know I have a teeny baby waiting for me". The hormones have definitely sent me loopy!

I seem to have missed loads of posts!

Lily, how did you feel putting Luca upstairs? I cried when I did it with DD and still haven't taken the plunge with DS. My doctor also told me to do a pg test as I am having a coil fitted next week so it's because of that. I didn't get mine back for a year last time with bfing so I'd be v unlucky to get pregnant this time as DS is never off the boob!

Joskar, you have made me want Jaffa Cakes now but I think it's too early!

Dozy, so pleased swimming went well and led to such good sleep. Did you get a proper wetsuit style swimming nappy or just Huggies ones and a normal costume? I'm not sure what to get.

Siani, I am with you on the sour milk smell being really off putting but my DH said he can't smell me and I've asked close friends too and they hadn't noticed either so I do think we are more aware of it than anyone else. The reading sounds lovely. You have inspired me to get some out too.

Hope everyone has fun things planned for today. We're out for Sunday lunch with my parents and it looks nice enough for a walk too.

Arrrgggg it has just lost my update twice!!

Anyway 3rd time lucky!
My boy free time was ruined by being bitten by a dog. Totally unprovoked as was just walking up the street (maybe was the smell of milk on me ) thankfully was wearing jeans so didn't break the skin but has left a bruise. That aside it was so lovely to have some time to myself. Went for a swim which was v relaxing and my c section scar was fine. Then (after the dog incidence) went home and watched trashy TV. Was so nice to do things like drink a cup of tea when it was actually hot. And then when they came back was great to have them both hime. DS and I had a lovely long cuddle without me feeling suffocated. Absence really does make the heart grow founder. And of course they had both been fine.

Nolonger yes. I really do. when I was paying for my swim I really had to fight the urge to tell him all about DS.

Pleased to hear people are getting more sleep. Clstow that must have felt bliss after such a long week. We seem to have settled into a bit of a pattern at nights now which is good. We haven't done bedtime yet. Think we might try when we are back from family visits and DS has had his jabs. We'll see. Part of me loves the thought of evenings back but know I'll find it hard at first.

Lily completely agree about happy mum equals happy baby. That is the one bit of advice I would give any new mum. Follow that rule and all will be fine. Kind of.

With sex DH and I jumped back on that horse really quickly - think hormones made me horny. but feel less and less like at as time goes on. Not sure if is just tiredness sneaking in. although also do feel less sexual the more a breast feed. Totally agree about that. Although also agree as fatty says. If you can forget they are in that cot then they will never know.....

Oh and mzzzf we had a too hot bath incident as well. Of course felt shit about it but DS has lived to tell the tale.