September 2006 Babies - growing in front of our eyes!

[Lysettes]

New thread everyone!

hi everyone - haven't been able to read all messages but calvemjoe well done for catching up and glad that you are able to enjoy your lo's now.

princesscarrie - you mustn't feel bad about going out!

liquid - your lo isn't tongue tied? dh apparently was tongue tied till he was a toddler, and apparently my mil had an awful problem getting him to latch on???

cruisemum our routine (completely baby led!) goes something like this - i'll start in the evening.

6ish bath time, then feed

730ish falls asleep in mummy's arms then up into cot

11ish (sometimes) feed

3ish (around 200 if he hasn't fed at 11)feed

630 comes into bed with mummy for a feed, usually about 10 minutes bf, then sleep till 830

830/9ish up, dressed and feed

10 short nap - can be 15 mins or 45!

1230 / 1 feed

3 / 330 feed, and can sometimes feed on and off until 530 ish when we then have bath!

normally has a nap around 4ish for around 45 mins.

jacob just falls asleep where he is - a sure fire way to wake him up is to put him into his cot or down onto his lambskin, so he quite often just sleeps on the sofa!

sorry for long post!

Hello all, it's great reading all your routines and my ds is pretty similar to most. Bottle at 6am, 11am, 1.30pm, 4pm, 8pm, midnight (times somtimes vary by an hour) I'm hoping as ds gets bigger and he can cope with a greater vol of formula (taking 5oz a feed at the moment - 13lb 5 oz as of today) so we can lose the midnight feed as it can take anything up to an hour for him to fall asleep. (sad) Immunisation day is on wednesday so we'll see how he is with that - Calpol at the ready!! I'm taking dh for moral support, I hate needles.
Hope you all have a peaceful night and we'll continue the campaign for a full night of sleep before Santa comes!

hi all
been off line for a few days as we've got a new lap top, so i can type in the cdomfort of the living room!
sorry not had chance to read everyone's posts.
Homemama - i do know what you mean about having them close together, but to be honest I think unless you wait and have the 2nd one when the 1st one's started school, you never have as much time for them as you did with the 1st. Don't be hard on yourself, the way I look at it is that having an older brother to watch is far more interesting than watching boring mummy shaking rattles and singing nursery rhymes all day, which is what DS1 had tp put up with.
The sleeping issue with DS1 is a bit up and down at the moment - i spoke to the HV on fri, and she said we are doing the right thing and it is key to keep him in his routine. It is very hard, particularly with daytime naps, as I am having to cope with him and DS2 by myself, but it's important that he still has a nap as he needs it and if he doesn't get it, it makes going to bed at night that much more traumatic.
Can I ask what formula the formula feeders are using? I have had a tin of Cow and Gate premium which I've tried on and off when my milks been low or I've not had chance to express and need to leave him, but to be honest most of it's been poured down the sink. DS2 just doesn't seem to like it. He will take ebm from a bottle, so it's not the bottle, it's definately the taste. Any recommendations?

Morning Mabel - we're using SMA Gold. We used it with ds too once i'd finished b/feeding and never had any problems with it. hth

good morning Mommies~!

Mabel, i, too, use SMA gold. DS seems to like it. I still BF as main source of feeds but on occassion, i need a little help as we can sometimes do, ((mostly at the last feed before bedtime)). bt i use it so rarely, that i only buy the little premade cartons (250g). usually feed DS on both boobs then top up with 4 oz sma gold. ((sometimes he can finish that, but usually not))

So last night didnt go quite as planned or as hoped, i should say. ((i wasnt as fortunate for DS to sleep thru the night after injections day. but no worries cos he slept in pretty late today, always a treat. i had to give him the second dose of calpol at 3am, woke to being very very fussy, even after feed. other than that, he pretty much stuck to the usual night: totally asleep by 11pm, feed at 3am, feed at 6am...a short feed at 730ish, slept til 10am.

im really surprised he hasnt asked for a feed since he's been awake. in fact, im tingling so he's bound to sense that and start wanting breakfast.

i spoke too soon, perhaps. he's hollering for it now!

thanks guys! i will give sma a try it's useful to know that you are using it to supplement bf as thats what i'll be doing.
munkibaby - your ds has some appetite! 2 boobs and 4oz!! my ds only has 1 boob most of the time, but he is putting on 1lb every fortnight so maybe i have turbo boobs!
re: calpol i don't think you are supposed to give more than 2 doses if they are lesst than 2 months, although i'm sure if your ds was in pain a doctor would tell you to give them another dose.

Wow! It's so hard to keep up with all the posts! Lovely to read about all the routines and defo makes me feel happier about mine /or lack thereof!! .
Marls - hows the transition to cot going?
Liquid - it'd be great to get dd picked up from school but dh couldn't do it as he works ridiculously long hours (he's rarely in), and as dd's schoolmates all have various after school clubs and activities it is a logisitical nightmare! Great idea though. Thanks I must admit that I have not expressed yet. All the equipment is waiting for me but I just can't seem to find the time...
Munki - I cannot believe how similar our nighttimes sound. The whole bedtime thing takes around 2 hrs some nights. Not much crying going on but a lot of fussing and sucking. I have the tv on really low so I don't get too bored! When ds had his jabs they were done simultaneously. One nurse in middle distracting him and one either side counting down... 3 - 2 - 1 go! Ouch Horrible to watch the lip curl and the tears flow...x
Lysettes - Our lo's daily routines sound really similar. Difference is that I put ds to bed around 9pm after a lot of sucking and dozing on and off. Once he has gone down he doesn't wake again till around 5 - 6am. He has done this since 8 weeks (does that count as sleeping through???) I am glad that you let your lo sleep in your arms after early morning feed as I rarely put ds back into cot. It hardly seems worth the hassle/risk of him waking properly, since we have to be up at 7am to get dd ready for school anyway. I'm hoping the 5/6 will eventually extend to 7 eventually .It is really great to see what we are up to schedule wise we are all getting there - well done!

Almost forgot Compo - well done on the 8 - 6am -that's fantastic!!! . Has it happened since??

Hello, don't know if anyone remembers me, but I have an 9 week old DS who is due to have her jabs this week. I was not really too worried about them, ignorance was bliss! But now I am a little concerned.
She is such a fantastic sleeper, will these jabs upset her routine a lot.
Think I will take her in her pram rather than car seat on wheels incase of sore thighs, so thanks munkibaby I wouldn't have considered that. I thought they would do it in her arm as they would with us. doh!
A friend mantioned Calpol and, again, I had not thought any further on it. You reckon it's a good idea?
What exactly is she getting jabs for. I thought the jabs would be bad at the time but would not affect her afterwards?

cant recall what the jabs are for but my ds slept for 9 hours solid for two nites after them! He was a little tired and grumpy but nothing too serious. I was advised to give 2.5ml calpol up to 4 times a day but only gave it once we were home and at bedtime on the day of the jabs. He seemed fine tho. Good luck!

hiya Mimpim. next series of jab (4 more weeks i think the nurse told me)) i'll take the pram without the carseat clipped in. good thinkin!

as far as your LO's routine and the jabs, from what i gather and experience so far, they are only fussy for a couple days. My ds's psuedo-routine wasnt altered at all, to be honest. he's just fussier, crying at random moments during the day. ((its a different cry coming from my fynn so you'll probably be able to tell when to bust out the calpol!)) and yes, i'd get down to the shop and get some. BEFORE the jabs.

DS isnt a cryer, unless its for the usual things like when i wait too long to get to his feed. heheh so its been "odd" having his out and about and starting to whinge.

MABEL~ haha! yes it seems that he eats allll the time! but yet, he's only just starting to gain weight. born 8 lbs, even. now 8 weeks and not even 10 lbs. i was worried that i wasnt making enough milk and then it turned into worry that i wasnt letting him stay on long enough or stay awake while on boob. Ever have those feeds when the LO just cannot stay latched on for more than a few sucks at a time? kinda like they are restless? well, thats usually about the time i open the SMAgold...for the night feeds. ((who really wants to be woken up in the night to throw in an extra feeding??? not me!)) so i make sure he's full by giving him the extra bits. heheh.

Mable/homemama - I'm forgetting exactly how old your other ones are but I'm not convinced waiting until they're older to land a sibling on them would be of any help. I've been pleasantly surprised how DS1 (turned 2 a few weeks ago) has taken to having a little brother but that's just him and I think he'd have been the same at any age. At the end of the day they're all just going to have to get used to it aren't they!

Mimpim - some babies get a bit fretful for a few days following jabs but DS1 never did, waiting to see for DS2. It's generally a good idea to keep a bottle of calpol in the cupboard as a parent anyway IME to help them sleep when they have colds, when teething and for jabs etc. It's good to know it's there just in case!

Lysettes - we considered tongue tie but he can lift it to the roof of his mouth so pretty confident it's not that. He does have a very high palette which kellymom.com say can cause sucking problems. We've given up trying anything new now, just going to let him get used to what we've got. I go back to work the first week after Christmas and we need to feel confident that someone else will be able to feed him effectively.

DS2 is doing really well though despite any feeding problems - he's gone from 8lb 11oz to 12lb 7oz in 8 weeks - not bad!

Poor little man! he woke up after a very long sleep ((after having calpol))...fed him from a very engorged breast...and now, about 45 minutes after, DS is experiencing projectile vomitting!! twice!!! loads of it! and heaving...awwww. ))surprised he's not screaming for food now.

he's not ctying or anything so clearly there's no pain, but strangely though, he's being very very vocal now. Making sounds and shouts ive never heard.

My LO is a slow weight gainer too munkibaby, born 8llb 2oz now at 9 weeks only 9llb 11oz.
I have just started a thread in the feeding...thingy. What are they called? Sections?
Anyway, I started the thread cos I was a little concerned about the slow weight gain but I feel much better now, funny that you should have mentioned it today too!
It is nice to feel I am not alone

Thank you cruisemum1 and liquidclocks, I guess I will just have to wait and see how she gets on. She is quite a peacful baby so I think she wil be ok but you just never know how they will react huh?
But I will get myself in to town tommorrow to get the calpol, just in case.

OH, and for those of you who can't/don't visit the yahoo group, click the link below for a very interesting clip & video on how your baby "talks" to you.

enjoy!

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darn this MN site! ithought it was corrected but the problem is still present... ignore the link..Again! shame!

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Hi Mabel, we use HIPP organic

Plumber has started today so hopefully by Thursday all should be fixed (can't remember what it's like to have central heating!)...if not hole in my pocket..sob sob!!

bit of a strange one, but DS is normally feeding every 3 hours or so, but tonight and last night, he has not wanted his early evening feed. I last fed him just after 3pm, it's now8.10pm and he is not interested (now fast asleep. It's obviously bothering me much more than it's bothering him... I am going to keep trying him to see if he's hungry - i can feel myself getting anxious though that if he misses a feed tonight, i will end up doing 2 feeds in the night. I know i should just go with it though....

Welcome back Mimpim!

Mabel ... Enfamil Lipil + Iron ... used with DS1 too ...

Liquid - thanks!

Have just joined a new gym with a contraption I stood on in bare feet, and it spit out all kinds of information ... for example, I was 53% hydrated this morning ... ... But, the best is they'll care for DSs up to two hours per day while I'm there. Down to 125 ... 11 pounds to go ...

Cruisemum ... oh he does v. well in the cot - at night! One horrid moment yesterday when DH & I thought our precious swing was broken - we couldn't live without it!!

Lysettes - Our night schedule v. similar to yours.
Beginning to feel dizzy & nauseated every afternoon for lack of sleep ... can't fall back asleep after that early morning feeding; just lie there. Today have been awake since 2:45am.

Munki, you've got my DH going "that sounds like a HEH ..."

Got to go ... my Captain Destructo has now drawn on the bathtub with a pen!!!
He's definitely testing the limits.

Cori ... good luck with plumbing!! Hopefully all back to normal soon for you.

Myrtle, PMSL re the cat on the bed! Our cat peed this morning in the hallway and has resulted in DH having to throw away a pair of shoes - he is not a happy bunny...

Mabel - have been using Farleys and seems ok so far...

Well done Marls with the disciplined weight loss - another snickers bar for me !!

Hugs

|Marls - with you on the insomnia after early morning feed! . When ds wakes at 5am I rarely get back to sleep. Mind you, I am my own worst enemy because I find it hard to take the plunge and put him back in his cot. Afraid of waking him. So I end up sleeping propped up on my pillow fretting about whether or not I am fostering bad sleeping habits whilst he chomps away at my boobs! Also, I find that I automatically wake at that time even if he doesn't grrrrrr . Mother Nature sure has a warped sense of humour. Very happy tho as I was told today that his nightime hours of 9:15ish to 5/6amish is considered 'sleeping through' Another hurdle overcome!

Redz - have emailed you.

Mabel - though we use farleys this time and did for DS1's first 2 weeks, we changed to enfamil AR (available on order from chemists) after that because of his reflux. But IMO it might be a good option for a baby refusing to eat much formula as it fill them up slightly more than the normal stuff.

Munki/Marls - my DH is doing the same! though I think we're getting mostly 'neh'

Cruisemum it's so frustrating, isn't it?? DH taking over tonight through Saturday (Thanksgiving holiday for him); he can always fall right back to sleep Shouldn't have said "feed" ... still trying to train - we just re-wrap him and let him fall back asleep or cry it out; never gets fed until 5:45 ... but a lot of good that's doing us; we're awakened either way!! DH says "remember DS1 didn't sleep through until 3 months so a good 2 weeks to go ..." & even then we heard from others that he was relatively "early" ... but I say whatever's most effective at this point, we should do ... Congrats on the sleeping through! Your LO is doing v. well - we'd LOVE to have your schedule!