September 2006 Babies - growing in front of our eyes!

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New thread everyone!

hi all
welcome jinglebelle i've not been here long so its nice to have someone new.

cori hope ds is getting better, we have just had 3 weeks of ds coughing and 4 trips to the docs. Even now he is still coughing. It is horrible and such a shame for them.

ds as his 2nd injections tomorrow, dh was off last time but i have to take all on my own this time.

do any of your lo's have any signs of teething, ds is moaning more than usual today and for the last few days he has been sucking on his fingers none stop even after he has been fed his cheecks are pink also. t Do you think he is to young dd and ds1 were both 9 months.

totally off the subject but is there anyone not ready for christmas, i still have loads of wrapping to do and presents to buy.

Hi kseaj - never too early for teething - some babies are born with teeth! (ouch if you're BF!) - DS2's been showing signs and has tooth buds clearly visible. DS1 cut his first tooth at around 4/5 months - can't believe I don't remeber!

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good morning, mums! It's been ages since i've posted. but i have been keeping up with the reads. It seems as though my availability has changed over the last couple weeks. (less time to do anything extra?? DS is keeping me on my toes for all his new changes. and of course, just when i think i have him sussed out...he goes and changes/mixes them all up again! i suppose this is just one of the wonderful ways of babies, eh?

he had his 2nd set of jabs this past monday and it went bad...well, at least, thats how he reacted...bad. he screamed far more this time. however, the aftermath and recovery has been next to nothing. (mind you, i did have the calpol ready and gave him a dose before i left the clinic.) it made for a pleasant stroll home...and i even managed to get a little xmas shopping finished on the way, seeing as he was asleep and all. (((FIVE jabs next time, i was told?!?!??! oh lordy, what a tough week that might be!!))

the most noticeable change has been when dh is minding him. from what i can tell, ds only wants to be comforted by me..or either i have a better "knack/method" for doing just so. can't tell. he's just reaching 12 weeks...is this normal for first born or first time-stay-at-home mums? when DH has him, ds gets fussy some of the time and that turns into crazy crying, leading to dh getting frustrated and feeling sorry for himself cos he thinks ds doesnt want him. i cant remind him enough that i do spend 99% of the time with ds, afterall...so perhaps he's just used to me. any solutions or suggestions that arent so drastic??

also, ds doesnt seem to take many naps during the day any more. he's become sooo grumpy in the early evening because of it. he feeds very well still (and gaining like crazy!), but i dont think he can drop off on his own anymore, without the aid of the boob or being rocked. what to do. what to do?

other than all this, i do hope everyone is doing well and healthy and happy with their little ones! Perhaps we will see loads of new photos of "september baby's first christmas" on the yahoo site! awwwww!!

oh munki - i am having terrible trouble getting ds to nap/sleep without aid of my boob. it is awful sometimes and as i type he is screaming his head off in his pram. he does not give in until I do and I am at the end of my tether with it tbh. Getting more and more worried about it as he is 15 weeks tomorrow. No help to you I know but I do know how you feel. . also, no way he will nap in his cot. I have given up trying - for now...

munki - re: lo's preference for mummy. My dd was like this (still is at age 9!) and dh used to get really angry and frustrated about it which certainly didn't help matters for dd. There really isn't anything you could do except maybe stay close when dh is comforting her so that she associates dh with you and therefore you with comformt ifswim
That may work. btw, if I were you I would let him take over where possible otherwise you, like, me will make a rod for your own back later

hi all,

Very quiet on here today...

I think it's quite common for the LOs to seem to want to be with Mummy all the time. Must be an innate instinct I think, after all, we are the ones who gave birth to them, feed them, cuddle them when they cry, are at home with them all day, etc. (presuming it's all mums who stay at home - sorry, very 1950s...! - but I think it's true in all our cases?). I guess that could also lead to us knowing our LOs better than our DH/Ps, as we have more time to get used to what they are trying to tell us. I think if you try and encourage independence, e.g. lying LO on the floor to kick on his own, having DH/P do bath time/late feed/other special bonding time, then gradually they'll accept other people as happily as they accept us.

I read somewhere that there's a theory that babies are born 3 months too early (the missing "fourth trimester") as since mankind began to walk on 2 legs, our hips have evolved too narrow (ha ha!) to squeeze them out any later than 9 months (and it's hard enough then.... ). Therefore the bonding in the first 3 months is really maternal and babies like to be cuddled up close to mummy. Awww.

Cruise, sorry to hear the naps and feedathon haven't got any better.

We took DS1 to see Santa yesterday - so cute! He was a bit daunted at first, but then had a little chat and got a train jigsaw. He says he would like a "big train track" for Christmas. Thank god for that, as that's what he's getting!!! What is it with 2-3 year old boys and train tracks??

I've decided to wind down breastfeeding Fraser. I am so tired all the time from it, even though he does sleep now from 10.30 feed through to gone 7 am, I still feel knackered. So for the first time tonight I'm not going to express in the evening (what a relief that is....!!), and see how dropping that goes. He's 16 weeks on Saturday, so he's had 4 months of bf. My mantra for today - "I must not feel guilty, I must not feel guilty, I must not feel guilty".

sorry this is so long.... hope everyone's well.

Just a quick one to say Clairemow don't feel guilty - you have done fabulously to go that long. You've given your lo sucha good start in life and b/feeding is so exhausting - I didn't realise how draining it was until I stopeed. And you're just in time for all the festive drinking

I've heard that too Claire, also one theory that they should only be born when they can walk like most other mammals!

Don't feel guilty! You've done so amazingly well and hopefully now you will have some more energy and feel better - my mantra is still happy mummy = happy baby!

However, hyperactive toddler bouncing off sofa = stressed out mummy! Really must go for a walk tomorrow...

Hi All,
Don't seem to have much time for internet at the moment, but am getting lots of giggly time with DS, so can't really complain.
Cruise - sorry to hear that my waffle was of no help - I'm sure it will get better and I can't really comment, as I only had DS to deal with and no other children, so am sending you lots of sleepy wishes for your LO.
Liquid, thanks for info re. formula. We have been prescribed Nutramigen for top-ups to bfing, but I am reluctant to drop bfing altogether, so he only takes 120ml of formula twice a day and rest if bfing. He's putting on steady weight so I'm not too worried and drugs seem to be helping a lot, was just interested to hear your experience. Am useless and can't remember who said about breastmilk being best, but thanks for that, as I was starting to feel like he just chucks my milk straight back up!
Claire - you have done brilliantly to get to 16 weeks bfing. I only managed to 12 exclusively and am now combining, but have never been good at expressing, so this at least gives me a bit more freedom. Don't feel guilty - I'm with Liquid on the happy mummy = happy baby thing, but I know what you mean about the guilt, as I was actually in tears about it when the hospital told me I had to give some formula to my DS! Won't start my rant, but I think that while the bfing message is good, there are a lot of people out there who go too far (I have renamed the John Lewis Parents' Room where I live the "Opinionated People's room" due the the unsolicited comments from other mums I've had in there about feeding my baby amongst other things!).
Anyway, am really shattered so should be going to bed ready for the 1/2am feed!
Wishing you all a sleep-filled night (I keep singing at DS "All I want for Christmas is a sleep-filled night" to tune of "All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth", but only time will tell if his smiles mean "of course mummy" or "not on your nelly - you're so funny"!

Hi All,
Don't seem to have much time for internet at the moment, but am getting lots of giggly time with DS, so can't really complain.
Cruise - sorry to hear that my waffle was of no help - I'm sure it will get better and I can't really comment, as I only had DS to deal with and no other children, so am sending you lots of sleepy wishes for your LO.
Liquid, thanks for info re. formula. We have been prescribed Nutramigen for top-ups to bfing, but I am reluctant to drop bfing altogether, so he only takes 120ml of formula twice a day and rest if bfing. He's putting on steady weight so I'm not too worried and drugs seem to be helping a lot, was just interested to hear your experience. Am useless and can't remember who said about breastmilk being best, but thanks for that, as I was starting to feel like he just chucks my milk straight back up!
Claire - you have done brilliantly to get to 16 weeks bfing. I only managed to 12 exclusively and am now combining, but have never been good at expressing, so this at least gives me a bit more freedom. Don't feel guilty - I'm with Liquid on the happy mummy = happy baby thing, but I know what you mean about the guilt, as I was actually in tears about it when the hospital told me I had to give some formula to my DS! Won't start my rant, but I think that while the bfing message is good, there are a lot of people out there who go too far (I have renamed the John Lewis Parents' Room where I live the "Opinionated People's room" due the the unsolicited comments from other mums I've had in there about feeding my baby amongst other things!).
Anyway, am really shattered so should be going to bed ready for the 1/2am feed!
Wishing you all a sleep-filled night (I keep singing at DS "All I want for Christmas is a sleep-filled night" to tune of "All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth", but only time will tell if his smiles mean "of course mummy" or "not on your nelly - you're so funny"!

hello you lot... i need to talk about sex (ssshhh!) not that i'm up for it AT ALL, but the DP needs servicing every now and then, and i am finding it still really painful... i had a natural birth, no tears, grazing or stitches and i would have thought it would be ok by now, 13 weeks on? i know it's a slightly intrusive thing to ask but does anyone else have the same issue? am considering going to doctor but really can't be arsed...

and Claire... try not to feel guilty, you've done SO well to get this far... it really takes it out of you. i only do 1 or 2 bf a day now, and the freedom is great (imagine being back in an underwired bra!!!). mind you, i kind of wish i could keep doing the morning BF forever because it is so special to have that closeness, sadly the milk's drying up...

Clairemow, you've done so well! Think about all the great benefits you've given him over the past 16 weeks rather than guilt for winding down. Know how you feel about it being tiring / time consuming etc. J is 13 weeks now & although I stopped expressing at 7 weeks (he's had one bottle at night since)I am begining to feel a little fed up with it all. I just feel so drained & still want to eat too many carbs as a result of feeling rather hungry still. DH politely enquired when was I going to stop (something he never did with DD! - is it because he's a boy?)) & I said I really don't know. I beginning to get that " I want my boobs back & to wear nice underwear" feeling again...& it'd be nice not to count the glasses of vino anymore!!!

Liquid & Kseaj - Teething must be what Jameson is doing ... constantly has his fist or his blanket in his mouth! He's wearing the Gro-bag right now ... we'll see how it goes tonight! V. surprised to see their ideal temp. for a nursery is 64F. No one in this country keeps their house that cold ... in the South it'd be prohibitively expensive to do so!!

Still desperately trying everything to get J. to just sleep from 11:30p to 5:30a already. Grr.

Have dropped enough to be within 5 pounds of my normal weight of 114. Can wear most of my closet, but not in the way I WANT to be wearing it.

Those of you who've written you've already lost it all - that's really amazing!! You should be very proud. Takes most moms 6 months to a year to be entirely back!!

Claire, re bf: It's so great that you've gone for this long, I think.

Busy with Christmas ... loving this time of year.

Merry Christmas everyone, if I'm not on before then!!

hi all

boozybird iam having the same problem with the sex thing. I also had a natural birth no stitches or anything and yet i can still not get round to doing the deed. Dh getting v.fed up now. Its v. strange i had a horrible time with dd long labour and stitches but by 12 weeks i had done it, with ds1 i was quick at getting round to it. How ever i feel differnt scared that it is going to hurt dont know why i feel like this. Ds is also 12 weeks old. I have also thought about going to the doctor but not sure if it is the right thing to do unlike you it does not hurt me (i dont think) i just can not bring myself to do it. If it was hurting i do think i would go to the docs just to get checked out.

Well ds had his 2nd lot of jabs today he cried having them done, he cried after they had been done,he cried in the waiting room while i was dressing him, and he cried all the way home in the car.
He has moaned a lot tonight so have given him calpol, he seemed to cope with the 1st lot better than this.

Thanks everyone, I know you are all right! Pistachio, I hadn't thought of working out how many feeds... I wonder how many pints?! I was soooo sore this morning after not expressing last night, had to pump as well as feeding F - got 9 oz in about 5 mins while he fed on the other side. So much for dropping it down... but got to be comfy, and the main thing is the evening express is gone. I expect the supply will drop for the morning in the next few days.

Boozybird, may be tmi, but have you tried KY?! Not that I'm any expert - DH still waiting here too.....

boozy - same here - done it once - ouch! haven't tried since. KY would be an option I guess. I too had no probs with delivery re: tears etc. Must just be the natural trauma of it all. hth

boozy - same here - done it once - ouch! haven't tried since. KY would be an option I guess. I too had no probs with delivery re: tears etc. Must just be the natural trauma of it all. hth

even more scared now, as I had 3rd degree tears.... oh dear!

Afternoon Ladies!

Marls - hope the grobag wearing goes well. I don't know what 64F is but we keep it around 20/21 C and he sleeps in a 2.5 tog bag and sleepsuit and vest.

Claire - sympathy with the soreness - hope it subsides soon.

Boozy - I tore with DS1 but not as badly as this time and it was very painful afterwards. This time around I'm fine, everything's back to pre DS1 even! I went to the docs last time as it was really bad and she just told me me to get some KY and do perineal massge to get everything 'stretchy' ! TBH though just using the KY was enough - good luck with it but remeber - if it hurts and you're not happy don't do it! DP will just have to wait - you've had his baby, a little bit of patience and understanding should be expected of him

thanks for the advice ladies - i'll go with the KY option and if it doesn't get better i'll see the doc! Although i think it should be law that we get at least 6 months off even having to think about it after giving birth...

perhaps i'll just wait until we want another one, i was thinking perhaps when DS is about 2yo...

Well we have decided we are driving to Watford tomorrow at 5 am... to avoid the traffic... Wish us luck!!

Merry Christmas everyone!!

Blimey Clairemow - good luck Hope you have a lovely Christmas!

Isn't it funny how near Xmas our thoughts turn to sex..... guess that figures as it feels like an annual event at the moment

Is anyone experiencing a 14 week growth spurt? dd is downing her bottles and then wanting more and seems a bit restless in the day. Sleeping well at night though so must be getting enough in the day.

Dh was moaning last night that I don't seem excited about Christmas this year!! the only thing I'm looking forward to is having him around for a week to hopefully helps as much as possible. Not looking forward to the potty training and it's not like we can have a lie in or anything is it? It just seems a bit like any other day cos all the same things will still need doing, just that we'll be eating and drinking around those things Anyone else not really in the festive mood yet?