November 2014 - The one where they won't stay still.

[MrsAukerman]

New thread, new moves, new poo!

I'm with you Strawberry...today found out that when DD is in her walker she can pull the tablecloth (and everything on it) off the kitchen table and onto the floor.....

Look at them all! Have added DD on our holiday last week, eating the bottom of Nanny's ice cream cone!

I have had an awful weepy couple of days of feeling like a total failure as a mother, so lovely to come on MN and have you ladies to cheer me up! for all of you.

I am trying to firm up our routine ahead of returning to work in a couple of weeks. First attempt at sleep training two nights ago was a failure, she screamed until she was sick and totally hysterical and I was in tears, so aborted it and took her to bed with me. Trying again tonight! She is asleep at the moment so fingers crossed. I think part of the problem has been over tiredness, she has been having only 2 naps a day and one of those was only 20 minutes or so while it's been so hot. Then she was hyper at bed time so I was avoiding the fight by letting her go to bed late, then she was getting up frequently all night, getting tired, not napping... Today she has had 3 naps and was trying to put her down by 7:30, asleep by 8:30. Going to try PUPD next time she wakes and see, but I am hopeful!

Sorry for the essay. Nice to see everyone's routines, DM nagging me that mine is not going to work when I go back to work but actually it's not dissimilar to all yours apart from the nap issue! I don't see why I won't be able to just express at work when she would normally be having boob and then use that for next day's milk? I have a bit stored up ready anyway and am hoping that my supply might just gradually adjust that way rather than having a sudden drop off.

twiglet I'm back to work in a few weeks too and also plan to express for the next day. My cm is pretty flexible about routines but I'm trying to improve naps too, the hooping method has worked well (apart from today for some reason). I gave up the sleep training I'd planned about 20 minutes in, now I've moved from feeding to sleep to rocking to sleep and a couple of times I've got her down without rocking either. Slow and steady progress.

Settling in session with cm tomorrow. Have cried twice today thinking about it, I need to (wo)man up!!

So according to my Wonder Week app, DD is now at the start of leap 6.

Did anyone who's been through this leap / is going through it have crying / screaming when put to bed? This has been happening every evening since Monday and is really out of the norm for her. It starts almost as soon as we put her in the bed. After 5-10 times of going in to reassure her, she calms down and sleeps for 30-40 mins before it starts again. This happens for maybe 3-4 cycles with the last lot (currently) around 8.45pm when after this she finds her thumb and all's ok with the world. I know from reading others' posts that we're really lucky with this, but was just wondering if anyone else has found this too?....

B/fast today not very successful: tried Weetabix which she still isn't keen on and decided to blow bubbles therefore spraying it everywhere. Ended up sucking the peanut butter off a load of toasted fingers...

Haven't yes to waking shortly after going to bed prob for past week and last couple nights 2hrly waking hoping that's teeth related.

We too get the raspberry blowing so everyone is covered we have decided today we are not making porridge or weetabix he can chew on some toast and if a weekend can have eggs in some form although breakfast was a way of getting extra milk in him it's,a total waste of ebm if he doesn't eat it.

We can now roll and proper roll the whole of the lounge crash into furniture and when can get no further do a death scream as if majorly hurt can also get around on back by pushing feet into floor. Playmat is now redundant!

It's ds1 last day of reception today can't believe he has done a year of school and being an Aug baby is the youngest in his class. All 29 (well 27 joined in) clubbed together £10 each and got the teachers a gift one a Cambridge satchel and the other theatre tokens plus some flowers they were so overwhelmed and grateful better than 20 odd boxes of chocolate I suppose.

All the children went over to give the cards and my ds took his over at the moment they are both opening the presents and a bit teary and he has no idea and just keeps waving the card at them guessing his emotional development isn't quite there yet bless him

Here's DD at her cousins christening in her asda dress and cardy knitted by her nanna. I'm working on getting her to eat more during the day, as she's still waking 3 times in the night for feeds. She's around the 90th centile but she only seems to eat very small amounts of everything. Today she's had a few small spoons of yoghurt, sucked on some tomato and half an apricot and I've fed her some cheese.

I'm also worrying about going back to work in a months time. Trying to give her formula has failed so far so I'm going to need to express, and she screams if I leave her with DH and he's going to be looking after her while I'm at work. But I suppose things could change in the next month, they change so quickly don't they. Last night she started sleeping on her front and I put her on her front earlier and turned around and she moved into a sitting position.

Since everyone's adding pics heres ours! DD last week in the paddling pool

Re routines/naps, dd usually does something like
5am Bottle then usually back to sleep
7am Up
7.30/8 Breakfast
8/8.30 Bottle - small top up feed
9.30/10 - 11/11.30, sometimes 12
11.30 bottle
2/2.30 - 3.15 nap (I have to wake her to get ds from school)
3.30/4 bottle
5/5.30 dinner
6.30 bottle
7pm Bed

If she sleeps in past 7am and/or has 2hrs+ in the morning I am struggling to get her down in the afternoon at all. So quite often she just has 1 nap & I hope she'll catnap on the school run but it never happens. Can't really believe we're heading towards 1 nap already especially when a few of yours are still having 3!

Bottles - we still have 5 feeds most days (1 early hours), if she makes it to 6 am its just 4. Is this a lot?

east wow end of term already! My ds finishes his reception year next friday, he is also the youngest in the class. Lovely idea for teacher gift - i've not even thought about it yet argh!!!

Feel like the worst mummy ever today. DS has asked for a party but we cant afford to invite everyone with me being on mat leave, so said he could invite half the class & kept the boy/girl mix proportionate with his class numbers. Gave teacher invites to put in school bags today, only to discover after school that they didnt slip them in bags but called the kids up one by one infront of all the others to get their invite so those who weren't invited were understandably upset. I feel so, so guilty .
Is this really poor party etiquette on my part not to invite the whole class or bad of school for handing out invites in this way?

Omama surely it HAS to be bad of school for handing them out in that way! I have no (recent!) experience of schools and have all that to come, but that sounds like a sure-fire recipe for disaster to do that! Can't quite believe someone thought that was a good idea

omama how awful, you just can't take that back can you?? Feel for you.

Yesterday dd finally managed to pull herself up to standing... and has spent most of today doing it and falling over. I feel like I've picked her up crying a million times. She also fell off the bed (again), I left her in my bed after feeding her back to sleep and didn't hear her wake up. She has a tiny bruise in her eyebrow to remind me to feel guilty every time I look at her.

Perfect day for 1st settling in session at the cm after all that. Went well though, she was happy when I left and when I collected her.

This morning was our last sing and sign class, they have this part of the class when they bring out a cuddly toy, all the babies love it, all the crawlers/walkers rush over but babydolly just sits with me and shouts as her turn for a cuddle gets closer but today she went straight for it, she's the youngest in the class and this sounds ridiculous but I was so proud of her, for crawling, for getting stuck in with all the big kids, for not needing me to encourage her. (I've become one of those 'proud mummy' people that used to annoy me so much).

Omama my ds is having a party I booked in Jan and paid then while had the money and got it half price it's for 25 children and he had 29 in class so we invited some friends outside of school and about 2/3 of class the teachers do pop them in book bag, we sent them out 2 weeks ago and party is end Aug as a few have said can't come he has invited a few extra. Our difficult situation was a little boy who plays in his group of friends he refused to invite because he is too bossy my ds is really quiet and doesn't usually comment but was insistent so I didn't force him to invite.

Next year we will be back to a party in the garden with 8-10 children.

There have been loads parties this year some whole class but more not and alot have done joint parties

thanks guys. am still feeling pretty terrible about it today tbh.
east most who have done full class parties have been joint parties so half the cost with another family. not an option for us as ds is the youngest by 2 months. i had no idea thats how they would give invitations out, thought theyd just go in book bags. cant undo it but lesson learned for next year. wont be having a party thats for sure, too bloody political.

aww ladydolly thats so cute of dd joining in like that. no shame in having a proud mummy moment, ,there'll be many more to come

ours today is dd waving at daddy for the first time. just opening & closing her fingers but very cute & she looked really pleased with herself

Poor omama I would be really upset about that too, tbh. I dread when DS has school birthdays tbh.

We have also just this week started flapping waving at people. It makes me all gooey.

We had a nightmare night last night. He woke at 2.48 and could not get back to sleep. I would rock him, seem to get him asleep, then put him down as if he was a live bomb, go back to bed, and 5 mins later he'd be thrashing and wailing.

This happened well over 10 times and each time he just got more and more overtired, poor bean.

This went on ad nauseum for an hour and a half. Finally succeeded at 4.45. It was dawn and the bloody seagulls were circling around the house at that stage! I was bloody freezing and had to put the electric blanket on to go back to sleep. Thankfully DH slept through it all so he gave me a lie in this morning.

I'm still so knackered though that i'm being a bad Mummy and letting DS have the dummy in all day. I just haven't the energy for the whining today.

She slept until 8.30 this morning, though she had woken a few times in the night (sorry to those who had terrible nights). I didn't have to wake up until DD1 got up at 8. I couldn't believe it when I opened my eyes and looked at the clock. Big improvement on yesterday when she woke at about 5, then was just falling back to sleep when the cat came in and started trying to stand on her (I was holding her at the time). She was very excited to see the cat so didn't go back to sleep. The cat was not popular!

Omama, they won't remember in a few weeks time anyway so try not to worry about it now

Anna, much sympathy because we had a truly disastrous night too with a similar 90 minute spell of rocking, putting down only for her to thrash around madly in the cot and bang feet/head/hands on the bars, then wake herself up and repeat. We had 11 wakings in total. I feel like shit physically and emotionally today! Have tried gentle sleep training but doesn't seem to work so going to give it another couple of days just to see if it improves then try CC for night wakings.

We put a mesh cot bumper up - one of the all around ones. If you do a google Image search you'll see the ones. So it stops him hurting himself. At one point last night he was doing 360's all around the cot in the pitch dark. I could see him on the night vision camera. Like a bloody bumper car!

How is your DH? Is he stepping up a bit more?

We had an interesting development this afternoon: put DD down for her afternoon nap only to have to go back up after 10 mins due to the crying. She'd only managed to wedge herself across the bed AND roll onto her tummy!!! How did she manage that?! She's NEVER rolled over !! . And it wasn't just a one off - I straightened her out and put her on her back. 10 mins later, same thing again...she fell asleep after I put her back that time.

Really wanting to see her actually roll over and not just the end result

Oh no...can envisage a long night ahead...DD already managed to roll over in her cot bed; scream because she couldn't get back; and need us to reassure her and try to get her to sleep. If this happens throughout the night..... Hopefully she won't roll over, or if she does she'll be asleep and will be ok...

Anyone else had experience of this? I know we can't do anything about it and that it's great she's started to roll, but I just want her to be OK with being on her front and not so scared that she can't sleep!

DD started rolling and sleeping on her side/front a couple of days ago. First night I had to keep going up and checking that she could breath but she seems fine and can push herself up on her armsif she needs to. Just had to go and resettle her again as she'd shifted around 90 degrees and woke up again. Really crap night here last night too. I went to bed at 10pm and she decided that was time to wake up and practice her rolling and crawling skills for two hours. In the end just left her in our bed but she still woke up about 4 times before getting up at 7am. Hopefully this is a phase they go through when they discover rolling!!?. DH is away this weekend dealing with MIL who's in hospital and needs to go into a care home, so I'm on my own. Time for bed I think!

DD manages to shuffle around the bed 180 degrees most of the nights, it is bit weird to find legs instead of the head. There have been a couple of nights where she had rolled herself on tummy, slept for ages and then suddenly realised she hates being on front and started to cry, but otherwise her spinning doesnt affect the sleep too much.
She has now started nipping very badly. Having her in baby carrier all day and short sleeves has resulted my arms being in tiny bruises and scratches. Nice one darling!

Took DD to USG to scan her head while we are abroad as NHS were trying to bully us into MRI for the same. She is fine, no problems have been found. Also took her for paedo consultation and he confirmed that she has inherited big head and there are no signs of hydrocephalus (thought so!). DH sent over pictures of his family in 4 generations -DD has got that prominent forehead what most of his family has, thus 2 cm larger head than most babies her age. If I would be British without anyone outside the country and would have to rely on NHS only we still would not know if DD is fine or not (GP referred us in mid-May). Not annoying at all considering I had to take DD abroad and pay to private clinic to get the scan for which GP gave us referral, the latest the hospital decided to send us to ophtalmologist just not to do USG, which is more informative method. USG took only 20 minutes and me singing her, while MRI would mean sedatation and 40 minutes scan to get the same measurements. Seriously considering to file a formal complain, maybe that will save pain to somebody else who doesnt have option to take DC abroad.

Dd mastered rolling back pretty soon after she rolled so hopefully yours will too!! Although she now only sleep on her front and terrifyingly it's mostly with her face down, squished into the mattress.

Friday was hideous, she went down a dream but I don't think I slept at all between 1 and 5, as soon as I'd get her down and fall asleep she'd wake again, even in bed with me. I took her in to her dad at 5 and went back to bed til 7 (when she was still sleeping). I had to go to bed at 8.30 last night!! She had 2 quick wake ups at 12.30 and 3.30 which caught me up (but up for the day at 5.15).

We went to a 1st birthday party yesterday, she was thoroughly entertained by older kids running round and all the toys and best of a patient cat. She'd had her lunch (an Ella's pouch and apple) but still ate sausage, bread roll, cheese, potato... it was nice to hear people say how great it is that she'll eat anything, it made me feel better about the difficulties we have with sleeping. It just shows how different they all are and how they develop at different rates.

If anyone is in the market for furniture Next are having their display furniture sale this weekend. We got a sofa with 35% off. We had our eye on it for months and I was there with sharp elbows at 9am yesterday and sat on my new sofa at home by 5pm last night :) Will probably be cheaper today as they have to go by this afternoon.

Huh, what happened there?! I have written paedo instead of paediatrician. Not exactly politically correct and hell knows what people thought about me taking DD to "paedo consultation"

strawberry i'd not even noticed til u said

havent our nights were rough for a week or so when dd first started rolling in bed, she'd go onto her front in her sleep but then wake up hysterical as she couldnt roll back onto her back. So we were up & down to her quite a lot having to flip her over. She also vomited quite a bit, I guess from the extra pressure on her belly. Eventually she decided she liked tummy sleeping & stopped waking upset.

She has only just learned how to roll back over & is now travelling all over the cot so we've also got a mesh wrap for the cot which stops her arms & legs getting tangled in the bars.

Sorry for lack of updates, have been lurking.
Shocking day and night yesterday / last night. I think ds is trying to go to 2 naps but transferring him to the cot which is now in a different room from where he falls asleep on our bed woke him up at 2nd nap. He then wouldn't sleep again so had 1 hr morning nap and 15 mins afternoon! Then woke up 3 times before I relented and brought him into our bed. I think he then did a 6 hr stretch though so can't whinge too much.

Sorry that wasn't clear at all. Nighttime sleep he woke 3 times before about 11 then did a 6 hr stretch.