September 14 babies - bring on the weaning!

[KitKat1985]

New thread for the Sept 14 babies. :)

zanashar on E's best day he had between 800ml-900ml and three meals! That sounds fine to me!

team three meals a day and E still doesn't sleep through although getting better at going down at 8 waking at 1 then usually 5 or 6!

zanashar, b has dropped his milk intake from over a litre a day to anything from 690-950 ish a day.

Zanashar - I have the same problem as you. A will rarely nap through the day. His best day is always a wednesday, as we go to a baby group where I feed him, and then he falls asleep in his pram on the way home and will often sleep for 2 hours. But other days I am lucky if he naps for 30 minutes, and it is often on me!

He also doesn't like being left alone too much! I have to take him into each room if I am doing housework. It can be exhausting, but I don't complain as we are getting the full night sleep.

We had our first roll yesterday too. Front to back. I think DH was more excited than A though Not done it since, but we will now have to keep and eye on him on the changing (kitchen) table!

Sleep still rubbish here, wakes after 3 hours, then 2, then very often! We cosleep, I still worry about how to stop it but it's really the only option to keep my sanity. In trying to make little steps, like leaving him to settle himself at his first wake up which worked (twice!). It's a very slow work in progress but at least I feel like I'm doing something.

Weaning is still not going so well, he just doesn't seem interested in a spoon though will try to grab food from our plates. He prefers to spoon feed himself but i think that's just because he wants to chew the spoon . Definitely going to try blw in a couple of weeks once he hits 6 months.

zanashar Not weaning yet, and can't remember much about weaning the twins 12 years ago - but my HV told me it was normal for babies to drop a feed once they start weaning.

I have also found weaning advice conflicting. With my elder two, weaning occured at 4 months. Nowadays, the recommendation is 6 months - but one HV told me I could start at 4 months if I felt J was ready, and another HV told me not before 6 months.

J is 5 months exactly today and I am holding out until 6 months.

Major, MAJOR, family milestone reached yesterday in the FATE household.

My eldest started her periods.

Came as a surprise to no one, we were expecting it and ready. But I shocked myself by my own reaction, which was not what I was expecting.

After the immediate shock from DD, followed by excitement (which is how we've been playing periods for the last year - and exciting new chapter in life), we talked lots about the practicalities for menstrual bleeding.

But what I wasn't expecting was after the dust settled, I locked myself in the bathroom and had a little cry. Actually it was a massive blubbing cry and I've cried about six time since - always in private, I wouldn't let DD see me anything other than excited and ready to listen.

But oh my goodness - My precious, precious, precious little girl. I feel ridiculously sad at such a physical sign of her being not-so-little anymore. I am crying even as I write this (although did start my period yesterday too, so am emotional). She is my baby. My first. My precious first born. She is growing up too fast.

I am so proud of her through. Not many 10 1/2 year olds could handle as well as she has. Off she went to school today with her sanitary pads, but full of confidence that she knows what to do and will be fine. I love her SO much.

Oh Fate, I'm welling up just reading your post! Sounds like you have a wonderful daughter and a fantastic relationship with her. Quite right that you are so proud

Fate that must be very emotional... Even little milestones make me sad and happy both, so I sort of understand how you may feel.

Thanks all,ds has a cold and is up every two hours...

Sleeping problems -Have you ladies managed to have a look at the link I send? I thought it explained sleeping issues very clearly.

We are very dependent on white noise and I totally recommend it.

Weaning- I do believe the 6 months is only a guidance and there is a reason behind it: even with this guidance strongly in place I have heard of people starting weaning at 4m. If it wasn't in place I believe you could find people starting even earlier. It wasn't long ago that mums mixed baby rice with milk in the bottle to make babies fuller at 2-3 months. I believe the whole point is that milk nutritional value is a lot better than veg, fruit and miles better than rice; replacing milk very early on with these solids is like robbing your baby from valuable nutritions in bm or formula. Also if digestion system is not ready it only causes issues. I would not worry too much about small amount of food after 22-24 weeks, specially carefully selected meals to provide additional iron and vitamins. For those of you thinking solids will solve sleeping issues, etc. I don't think so. Not in my experience anyhow.

Lilone thanks for the idea. I think it is a good one, I am giving it a rest for a couple of days. Then I start these.

Tomorrow is first settling session in nursery . Wish me luck x

Wahoo! Jessica had a full formula milk feed from a cup this evening! Operation 'get my boobs back' has commenced in earnest!

Oh and Fate, not surprised you are emotional. I think I will weep buckets when Jessica hits than milestone. xx

Team.. J is on 3 meals a day now but she still wakes up at least two or three times a night . I have caved with the cosleeping but would have preferred not to. It's musical beds every night now lol as i do try to put her back in her cot. She always starts off in her cot though so I hope eventually she'll sleep through and so remain in her cot!

Lilone... I did find Jessica was pooping far less around the time I just started weaning so I think your HV was right there. Now she poops daily again and they're proper poos. Ugh lol! I gave J some of Ella's Kitchen prune purèe today as I said before I thought she was getting constipated. It worked nicely. She was like a playdough factory while changing her nappy this evening lol.

Oh Fate that also made me well up. Well done to your daughter! It really is a milestone. I can remember when I started mine even now. I had never until now imagined what it must've felt like for my mum!

Yup, I'm really not expecting weaning to change anything!

Nazly, yes I did read those sleep articles. They were really interesting and have helped me to understand what is going on a little better. Unfortunately there isn't much guidance on how to fix the problems, but I guess giving out those answers is how they make their money!

For tonight I'm putting white noise on constant again, see if that makes any difference.

I'm also going to keep trying with the self settling. I've gone from needing her to totally zonk in my arms before attempting to lay her down without disturbing her to being able to lie her down at the point when her eyes are starting to close, she then lies there for two or three minutes with her eyes closing and then fighting to open them. I've needed to pick her up to totally get her off until now, but tonight I just needed to stroke her head and stick the dummy in and she went to sleep lying in her cot. I'm hoping that if I keep going with this she will slowly get used to going to sleep on her own in her cot. And if she can do that, when she wakes in the night she might be able to self settle?! It make take a good few days, I started with this about four days ago, but I really couldn't do controlled crying.

Oh wow fate that is a big deal!!

Every night I am hopeful this is the night he will sleep though!

Fate, such a lovely post to read. You're daughter sounds lovely and you sound like an awesome mum.

Topmammy, lol @ play dough factory ?????? v descriptive and accurate!

Z has managed approx 3x 30ish min naps today. Even swimming didn't tire her out enough to have a proper sleep......although she only had a tiny little whinge at being dunked compared to a fortnight ago when she was inconsolable for a good 20 minutes afterwards so progress is being made

Am dreading moving her into her own room soon, going to miss her morning gurgling and babbling ??

fate your post made me cry!!!

b was v overtired tonight - he had crap naps this afternoon and he screamed every time I sat down to.try to feed him. wondered if partially teeth (dribble/hands etc) but eventually put him down and he didn't shriek and took his dummy. I gave him a muslin to snuggle (he loves them for some reason) and took it out when he was asleep. he self settles pretty well so hv today suggested leaving him when he wakes up at stupid o clock and see if he settles himself back down.
tomorrow is our first weighing session since he has been having 2/3 lots of food a day. it will be interesting to see what the gain is.

oh and top, that is the perfect description! the opening nappy and then realising they are still at it is lovely. catch the poo my new favourite game......

That's made me feel all emotional Fate. Never really thought about it from the mum's point of view before. It sounds like you two have an amazing relationship.

Haha yes holls 'catch the poo' is also a good description!

Well I'm having a rather rubbish night. I think I've had about 45 minutes of sleep so far. Managed to get J asleep on my bed but now I'm downstairs with stomach ache & my AF is pretty heavy. I'm glad I kept my left over maternity pads! Pretty grim.

top that sounds rough :( I was annoyed yesterday because I seem to have started a period as well but I am ebf so this is not fair! Seems to have stopped already though so I shouldn't complain. Just caught me off guard a bit.

Can't remember who wrote me the recipe of chicken with pepper" I thought it was brilliant for adult and baby and it is in my list to try. Thanks x

Argh,just got ninja pooed by DD!!!!
Got a big gloopy surprise when I went to do a nappy change as there was no warning (no smell, no heavy nappy feel, and she rarely poops overnight)
And then she proceeded to plonk her feet right into the gloop!??????
So it's 1-0 to DD already today

R has a knack for waiting until the nappies off then pooing all over the table! The lovely white changing table cover is not so white anymore

He has got really really bad nappy rash at the moment, does anyone have any tricks? I'm slathering him in sudocrem but it doesn't seem to be doing much.

I have some Naty nappies for when DD is sorely. They are not as absorbent but they have no chemicals, so far more gentle on the skin. As they need changing more often I just use them during they day until it clears up. Some nappy free time also helps.

Any ideas for a spotty chin from excessive dribbling?!

Metanium cream might help Sleepless. x