March '13 - The One With The Babax

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New thread , and I can assure you all, it'll be a corker.

Yep Stormy, we've thrown away more dummies in the last week than in the last 6 months. Feels wrong buying more for him now but my life would go from peaceful to hellish in an instant. We've been a bit soft with the dummy lately though.

Where Zebber be is fantastic. Like that bit on Blackadder when the crone says 'that it be'. Either that or dd's been listening to a lot of rap.

Wotta I'm so jealous of the late morning. Had ds always been a tremendous sleeper? And we never very anything other than whining when he wakes. Can we swap please?

Hi gerry nice to see ya!

We had a 14 hour stretch of 7pm-9am today, which was very welcome because DP and I went to bed at nearly 2am because I went out to a pamper party that didn't finish until midnight! But I may have sweet talked the lady into doing my wedding make up!

stormy she's secretly gangster, isn't she? Does she start that sentence with "yo"?

worse are we all rightfully hopeful....?

Hi gerry glad you popped in. Hope you are well.

worse hoping Babax is ready to come out now and meet his big sister.

plonky and other fellow dummy users when will you wean ds/dd off the dummy? We use the cherry top dummy. Ds wouldn't take the flat ones.

I have read posts on here that before 2 they put all dummies away and the child never looked back. I don't think ds understands though. The dummy has been a sanity saver at bedtime.

My friend's dd never had a dummy but every time she sleeps she has to have milk. So she has regretted not giving a dummy.

something 14 hours??? Blimey. Go ds!

Yummy we've very much Mace a rod for our own backs with the dummy. at nursery be only has it for naps and if he's very upset, but at home he knows where they're kept. If I don't keep the kitchen door shut he toddles in and gets one for himself.

We are working on making it for bedtime only, and accept that we're now in for the long haul. As he didn't breastfeed for long I accepted the dummy as a comforter. When babies and small children suck they release a hormone that makes them sleepy. Dummies are a perfectly acceptable way of imitating nature in that respect, so I will get rid of it at night when ds is ready. But day time user has to stop!

Considering the hormonal thing I find advice to get rid of all bottles and dummies before 12 months frankly baffling.

plonky you are full of knowledge. I didn't know hormones are released.

We use the cherry ones too. Currently three in use, which means there are four missing somewhere in the house. They live in the cot though. Dread to think what nights would be like without. No plans to get rid yet either.

And in the most exciting news of the day so far, Fartypants just pronounced biscuit with two syllables! It's really not that exciting though. worse, give us something more exciting to talk about?

Yes plonk, DS thankfully was twinned with fartypants at birth and may be slight of stature but has always been a good sleeper. That's why the situation caused by this latest cold has wrecked me - I'm not used to it!

Never had a dummy, so no help. DS sucks his fingers when tired or upset. But we are trying to limit sheepey to naps and poorly times as otherwise he gets properly obsessive!

Well I wish I did have news, but nada. Reckon I'll be back in Monday for induction. Sigh. It's going to be a c-section isn't it? He's really high up, spinning around like he's on a dance floor and has no interest in descending down despite my best efforts. Plus I'm fed up with house guests now. Plus DH keeps banging on about babax dying if we don't get him out. Helpful

I'll will be a million times more chipper if I can persuade everyone to go out this afternoon, without me

worse c sections aren't so bad so please don't feel worried or dread it. You might not even have to have one though! I am proof that they're not all scary

And no dummy advice here either as DS has always used his thumb. Which can be a gift and a curse at times.

If he's spinning like a top he might not be helping but he doesn't sound very distressed! See how you go, but induction really doesn't have to mean cs. But even if it does... You get a Babax and that's the really important thing. Hope you get some quiet time soon (I'm sat mn ing in the hairdresser ).

Good god worse, I bet you're dying to have an hour to yourself! DH's concern sounds very sweet, if ever so slightly misplaced. It sounds like he'd happily march you into labour ward and hook up the syntocin himself! Did you go overdue with the Worselet? If so how did he cope?!

DH is at the football this afternoon. DS had emptied his duplo everywhere and is sitting in the empty box. Inspired by Rainbow I've been looking at holidays to Norway. I'm too poor!

Worse give him a swift kick from me! The age related risk is higher but it's not like it's no risk at 39 weeks and then suddenly huge the day you go overdue and overall the risks are still tiny. He's not helping!!

When they examined you did they say they'd be able to break your waters if needed and if he wasn't spinning up in the Gods somewhere? If so they might be able to do a controlled ARM (one of the midwives pushes down on Babax's bum to get his head into the pelvis while the other MW/Dr breaks his waters) and then once your waters have gone his head will be putting pressure on the cervix. Don't forget through that it's not just pressure on the cervix that causes people to go into labour in the first place and a few contractions will help his head go down. I would suggest a shag but I nearly punched someone that suggested that to me so maybe curry and pineapple instead?

You should definitely kick them all out this afternoon and tomorrow again and make the most of some solitude for some rest and giving Babax a stern talking to.

worse sending you sympathy. I didn't go overdue with DD but was heavily pressured into having an induction at 38 weeks (due to DD1 stillbirth - no actual medical reason) which I refused. But it's hard to go with the flow at this stage. Hope you got some rest and your DH takes the pressure off you so you can decide yourself.

plonk yes Norway can be expensive but it is possible to do it for similar price to alps if you are careful. Lift passes, hire etc are all a bit cheaper which helps. No advice on dummy as DD pretty much weaned herself off them totally at 14 months ( she decided it was a poor substitute for mummy milk!). We were very strict about it only being for bedtime which may have helped when she decided she didn't want it and I probably used them for longer than necessary. She does use mummy milk to relax and snooze though which I prefer but is equally a comforter like any other!

Is anyone not bothering with HV visit at all? We haven't had one since about 6 weeks when the one we saw was pretty useless so I may not bother for the 2 year check either. eco if I do decide to have an HV 2 year check and they say anything remotely negatively about breastfeeding at 2 years old I will be leaving straightaway as I don't see how I can rely on professional advice from anyone who demonstrates their knowledge to be outdated when it relates to their specialist area.

Oh god, men, are they all totally non-empathetic, or is it just mine? So I'm stressed out, craving a bit of personal space, and quite possibly a little snappy. Oh and I may have shouted at him this morning when he was dramatising about babax being in danger..... Not entirely unexpected in the circumstances. So I come back from a walk to find he's told his parents I don't want them here, and sent them home. I'm beyond humiliated. They have been unbelievably kind. Now they'll think I'm an ungrateful unappreciative cow. I'm not, I'm an over due ever so slightly crazy pregnant woman. The two are very different, although they might at times rant in a very similar manner. Oh well....

Betty that all sounds very technical but very promising, as I'm 2 cm dilated apparently, so they could break my waters if need be. It has cheered me up to know there are a few clever tricks out there for dealing with non-compliant babies. Something I know c-sections aren't so awful, and loads of people manage to cope, I'm just scared how I'll manage with a toddler, and a DH who realistically is going to have to go and spend several weeks up in the Lakes asap. SIL wasn't able to lift anything for ages, and the toddle is a fairly hefty, heavy, wriggly something to lift. I'll need help 24 hours a day, and that's going to be hard to find and expensive.

Plonky I was 40 plus 3 with the toddle, but I wasn't 'over 40', and he hadn't read any statistics on the web about risks and maternal age at that point. Unfortunately I now am, and he has. It makes for a slightly fraught atmosphere at home.

Dummies - I have no clue as the toddle never liked them. I think I was just lucky in that respect, although she's made up for it since with her anti-sleep habits.

Oh no Worse, what a prat! Can you give them a ring and explain that? I'm sure your MIL will get it! Also, because the actual evidence for increased risks of still birth and placental insufficiency is fairly poor and is obviously so multi factorial and we can't do any form of decent trial in pregnancy it's probably the case that we go way overboard in intervening early, it's just we don't have any other great way of assessing how babies are at term. You however have had a baby normally before, are fit and healthy other than a slightly dodgy but now under control thyroid, and most importantly have a wriggly Babax. As long as his head isn't completely clear of the pelvis and he's staying head down you have an excellent chance of not ending up with a section.

Rainbow I'd forgotten you had so much pressure put on for an induction. That seems so cruel! There's absolutely no evidence for early induction in stillbirths and they are offered for reassurance only, which as far as I'm concerned is an excellent reason but only if it's what you want. If it's not then making someone feel guilty for dealing something there's no evidence for is cruel.

We never had a dummy here despite my best efforts at times so I'm no use but my friend has just sent her 3.5yr olds off on a helium balloon after having a bye bye party tea for them with much success .

worse I am sure you mil understands so don't worry. I think your dh is just nervous about you and the baby. Sorry to generalise but some men do silly things when there is pressure.

We will be having a 2yr check it will be good to have some input from the health visitor on ds development.

rainbow it is annoying they put you under pressure but at least you had that option if you wanted to go down that route.

betty are you looking forward to your night out?

Thank you for all your views on the dummy. I will give up when he can understand to say goodbye to them. I quite like the idea of having a tea party for them where I can eat the cake.

I have a confession to make I sometimes eat ds snacks. I love the gingerbread men. Anyone else or is it just me?

Exactly one hundred weeks ago I was in labour. Funny how these things pop into your head. worse's uterus, this is a hint!

Rainbow that was awful that you were pressurised. I haven't been, I actually requested induction at the outset and then wobbled. The midwives were very supportive and not at all judgemental about this. It must have been extremely stressful for you.

Stormy I hope your hint works! So bored with the whole thing now. Reckon I'm definitely done at two dcs. Everything about pregnancy 1 was great. Everything about pregnancy 2 has been shit. Although I am perhaps being a little unfair. Last time I had very painful SPD (because the toddle engaged early.... oh the irony!)

Just bumped into a neighbour today with their new Jack Russell puppy. So cute. So much trouble. They were trying to tire it out so it would sleep through the rugby! Puppies.... babies..... very similar .

Odd evening, as having skipped her day time nap twice in a row, the toddle fell asleep in her high chair and has been in bed since 6pm. A whole evening without her running about has been really quite odd. She'll wake about 10pm, for milk, that's a given... what's less clear is whether that'll be a short wake, or a I'm getting up for the day wake.

Not rung PIL, as DH assures me they were thrilled to escape and not at all offended. He's probably right. Hanging out in someone else's house for an unspecified reason is as tedious for the guest as the host.

Oh forgot to say, you're not alone Yummy, I'm fairly partial to toddle snacks too, although I draw the line at the semi chewed offerings she regularly gives me.

Toddler snacks in this house are teeny tiny biscuits (approx 17 calories a pop). I don't eat them because I'm trying to avoid biscuits, and they're so small and unsatisfying they're not worth the guilt. And I can't eat her leftovers because food from someone else's plate is... I dunno what word really suits. Wrong? Unclean? Something I have mental weirdness about at any rate.

Did I mention biscuit has finally acquired a second syllable? Hallelujah!

It's been twelve hours. Has he arrived yet? Are we doing your head in with the constant wondering yet, worse?

Sorry, 'fraid not Stormy. Nothing, not so much as a Braxton hick in a very long time. I've given up myself. He's not in the mood to come out without help. Either I go in tomorrow as arranged, or I sit at home for another week, and then go in anyway. Still, looking on the bright side, DH's efforts yesterday do at least mean I have the house to myself again, so can relax properly, get snacks from the kitchen without having to make them for everyone else as well, and slob round in the kind of slob wear you don't as a rule bring out for public viewing. There is a certain pleasure in that.

Sleep last night was epic. 6pm-10pm, an hour wake for some milk and a cuddle, and then straight through until 7.30am. I think that must be some kind of record!

Good sleep worse- was that you or the Worselet .

I'm about to venture to the local land of children's entertainment for the first time... Wish me luck!

Good luck for tomorrow worse. Will be thinking of you and can't wait to hear your news .

Thanks Shattered but I'm still unsure whether or not to leave it for a while longer. I was so keen on induction as well, until now. I don't know what's changed, other than perhaps the reality being a little more daunting than the theory. I never really thought I'd be in this position. Quite coincidently in my NCT group of 8, 4 of us have gone over due, all second babies. Goes to show, when it comes to birth, you can't predict anything.

Wotta I wish that sleep had been me, but sadly not. I think it was a one off never to be repeated though, as tonight she is firmly back in her old routine.