October 2014 // thread 6 // baby's new year resolution is to sleep more?!

[sazzlehopes]

I could try that. I just leave it alone and after a few days it clears up. Often comes back though, not sure what the trigger is.

Note to self- don't wake a sleeping baby by changing her nappy. She WILL produce and massive poo in the new clean one provided. Narrow escape there

Bloody boiler has broken again! Was only fixed just after xmas :( got nearly 3 hrs sleep out of babymoose and was freezing when we got up
Really sucks especially if boiler is buggered as we just havent the budget for something major going wrong :(
No chance of babymoose doing another 3 hrs now its cold

Another good night here, fed at 10ish and then at 4 and 7.15. Ds's nose was much better (randomly?).

Hope you had a better night, sazzle? It sounds like Ned is struggling more with regurgitating milk lying down than Ben is now. We don't get grunting any more and only get gagging and gulping occasionally now (as long as I hold him upright for a while after a feed). Do you always feed (back) to sleep?

goats teething doesn't have to mean pain breastfeeding! They don't all bite the boob that feeds them.

fate I'm somewhat intrigued as what you could possibly list as advantages of formula which might upset me as an exclusive bf-er . However, I think you've given splendide good advice and probably reassured a few others as well that upping formula top-ups doesn't have to mean the end of bf.

Pretty good here too although up a bit early. Fed at 10, 3 then 6.30.

Goats Lebkuchen is spot on, in 18 months and with 16 teeth at the end - Jonas never bit me. Not once. Teeth don't mean the end of BF unless you want to end it.

lebkuchen thanks for asking. It was better than the crazy night before. He woke at 2,4 and 6 for feeding but as usual was really restless from 4 onwards often needing soothing in bed with me.
We tried a bottle of expressed milk last night at 10pm as a dream feed and he drank the lot so I was hoping he'd miss the 2am feed but nope! He's a greedy little monster! Anyway will try again tonight and see if it helps...
And yes I always feed back to sleep and hold upright. He is defo happier on his front or side, but splutters less so now. And we have less vomit in general, not always after each feed so that's good. Glad you're night was good.

Fate I think your advice was ace. And I'm intrigued by the formula pros!!

Yellow do you dream feed with the boob or a bottle of expressed?

Sazzle its not really a dream feed as we wake her for medicine and a nappy change, so am not sure that counts. Its boob. She always falls asleep feeding or if cuddled upright against me after a feed so I don't worry about waking her.

"fate I'm somewhat intrigued as what you could possibly list as advantages of formula which might upset me as an exclusive bf-er"

It's not particularly that it would upset anyone. But if I remember back to my days long-term exclusively breastfeeding my first child (and indeed my second child actually), I often would have 'wobbles' when in a state of desperation I would ask DH to go buy the baby some formula because I'd had enough.

In those times what I needed to hear from all the breastfeeding supporters around me was all of the benefits of breastfeeding and that formula would not solve my problems as I expected and that I would be disappointed in myself if I gave up on the exclusivity.

What would not have been supportive to me as a breastfeeding Mum having a moment of struggling would be to know all simple, easy parenting solutions formula milk provides. Like it was rubbing salt into the wound of already having a wobble.

Given that a forum here is permanent, so can be read back at any time, I thought it wrong of me to exalt the benefits of formula milk, when there are a significant number of first time Mums (any Mums in fact) who are exclusively breastfeeding and sometimes struggle.

Does that make any sense?

I just had lunch with a friend without A! So weird, first time I've been out without him for 11 weeks. i got the whole of my lunch eaten then my dad brought him over and I fed him over coffee. Was really nice.

I'm going to give him a bottle this evening (so that'll be three bottles a day) and stop worrying so much about my supply. I'm not risking any more weight loss.

That sounds lovely splendide :)

It was Moose! Made me feel a bit like a person again.

splendide - I went to Tesco on my own earlier. Didn't have to make cooing noises, or walk round at sprint speed lobbing things in my basket to the soundtrack of screaming. Lush.

DS1 did start biting me when feeding at 6/7 months. I know there are tricks to get the babies to stop it, but I was ready to give up by then so it was the final push IYSWIM.

Splendide it is amazing how just a little time on your own can revive you. My mum had DS2, and DH looked after DS1 for a few hours just after Christmas so I could hit the sales between feeds. DS2 was consistently going 3 hrs between feeds then, so I gave myself 2.5 hours.. Ran around the shops, then had a nice coffee in Starbucks. I felt 'me' again for the first time in ages. Took ds2 to the sales with me a few days later and he screamed the whole time so it wasn't as much fun!

How do you stop them biting? Babymoose is starting teething and likes to have a reet good chew at the moment so im a bit terrified to see what happens when he actually gets teeth!

fate makes sense to me.

I don't really talk about ffing too much for that reason. I remember how hard getting bfing established was with dd1 , I remember the bone crushing tiredness, how emotional it made me and when I was wobbling and having a bad bfing day I did not need to hear people who were ffing telling me there babies were sleeping really well. I know some people find it easier but I didn't.
In rl I'm aslso careful about ever offering advice. Just because I've had four it doesn't make me an expert and I learn new things all the time.

But I do know that when babies are born their tear ducts face out wards instead of in which makes it easier for dirt to get in which quite often causes redness and gunky eyes.

Little bit of useless info for you

moose to stop biting either unlatch them and put them down when they bite saying no calmly (probably better for older babbas) or gently push their head into the breast so they can't breathe - this makes them open their mouth and stop nibbling! Obviously only push their head into your breast for a couple of seconds - you don't really want to smother them!

Glad you had nice time splendid you deserve it

fate i totally get what you are saying with regards to ff/bf advice, so many people are in different situations and it would be easy to make someone question their feeding choices either way when going through a hard time.

I have two gorgeous lamps i need to pick up from Harry Corry's but honestly cant face taking the two kids out with me, the weather has been wild here for days i cant wait until spring has sprung to go long walks with the kids & the dog, and seeing my lo's toes in the grass in summer the weather just now is putting me off doing anything

Fate total sense. I think I was intrigued as a second time numb t you are thoughtful with your not posting...

Pregnant that is interesting. N has one permanent gunky eye that doesn't seem to bother him but I wasn't sure if I should take him to the docs...

Splendide that sounds great. And you sound more positive too which is excellent!

Mum even, but I am a little numb too??!!

sazzle I would clean twice a day with cool boiled water for 4/5days if it's not cleared then docs. Says she who never offers advice

Squirt a bit of magic boob juice in there! Apparently it's useful for all sorts including antiseptic when out and about and injured, makes delightful ice cream and can be used as a sexual lubricant!!!

DS has had 2oz and does seem much happier, poor wee thing was hungry I guess - still. I don't know why I can't satisfy him with boobs but I ckearky can't. Oh well I need to just move on.

Yuck to boob lube munday

I need a good talking to - ended up sobbing last night at the thought of going back to work...in September.

In other (oversharing) news, today is the anniversary of conceiving ds! We tried for 2 years so I was watching ovulation dates closely. Surprisingly Sainsbury don't stock a celebratory cake for such events.