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October 2014 // thread 6 // baby's new year resolution is to sleep more?!

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sazzlehopes · 08/01/2015 17:22

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YellowWellies · 09/01/2015 14:23

Fate fab list. I have to say all those things on the lists of what can't be done with a baby - I manage to do with a baby and a toddler. Yet I couldn't manage them with my first baby. This isn't because I'm Billy Big Boll*cks but proof of how your Mummy skillz expand as you go. It does get easier honestly. With a lot of stuff, its just daring to do it or timing things right - so I have lovely long natters on the phone when feeding Lil to sleep or by parking her bouncy chair in front of the washer or when she's in the sling.

Those struggling with sleep wondering about CMPI - I've been dairy and soy free since Lil was 5 days old, and I didn't want to say it in regression hell but she sleeps every night from 11 til 7. No wake ups. Even with reflux. Try it if you're wondering about CMPI but it has to be total exclusion not just cutting down.

FATEdestiny · 09/01/2015 14:26

im assuming it will be separate m & f changing rooms as its a leisure club meaning i have to wrangle a wet angry baby into clothes by myself whilst also drying me which i find frankly terrifying!

Many newer leisure centres have joint changing areas. Even some of the older ones will have a 'family changing area', which is often the same place at the disabled changing area. So you could ask at reception.

If both you and DH are going, I'd recommend getting changed at separate times, not at the same time. If he or you gets dressed while the other is still in the pool. Then when ready you swap over and the dressed adult gets baby ready while the other gets dressed.

If you are on your own, my tactic is wrap LO up in a warm towel and make them happy (this works right through to toddler years - so dummy or feed for baby, drink and biscuit for toddler). Once wrapped in towel and settled, put baby on change table provided (or floor) and prioritise you getting dressed first. Do it quickly though. Once you are dressed then focus on getting baby ready.

wondermoose13 · 09/01/2015 14:41

Ooh i hadnt thought about shifts! I could send dh to get ready and in pool, i get babymoose ready, handover then get me ready and then reverse! Brill idea thanks :)

FATEdestiny · 09/01/2015 14:45

Yellow - Absolutely right about just learning how to fit your children into life and parenting in a more efficient way so that you can get things done.

But there are certain things you have to accept will never come back. Or at least not for a long time.

Things I miss from The Time Before Children:

  • Staying in bed with DH at the weekend (this is the biggie)
  • Sunday mornings lazy shagging / Friday night loud shagging
  • Doing nothing when poorly
  • Deciding that I can't be bothered to cook some days and living on toast and cereal
  • Having the choice of what to watch on TV at all times
  • Deciding in the evening that you feel like going for a drink/meal/cinema and just going.
  • Relaxing by the pool reading a book on holiday
  • Doing what me and DH want to do on holiday

again I could go on and on...

MundayCakes85 · 09/01/2015 15:21

Thanks for all the advice- combed cat and found more of the buggers so played chase the soapy water from the watering can... Cat loves that game and ended up like a drowned rat!! Grin Then hoovered everywhere! Got more Advantage drops coming next week and strong spray. If that doesn't work I'll call the professionals! I hate bloody fleas Angry
Can't wait to go swimming with baby- might order her swim suit and go soon.

sazzlehopes · 09/01/2015 15:52

Lebkuchen - sorry you're having similar troubles. Whereabouts are you in the country? It's hard with the dairy dree thing, I can't work out whether it helped of not. I don't know whether to go completely dairy free again and see if sleep improves.
Who knows hey if you just have a good sleeper yellow? I know obviously the diary has made a massive difference to the reflux issues you suffered but do you really think it's a sleep Improver?!

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Pregnantagain7 · 09/01/2015 16:07

I totally agree with fates list

I would also add:

Spur of the moment getting drunk
Going clubbing til 6 in the morn and rolling in when it's light (maybe a bit old for this now)
Going on holiday just me and dp
Singing songs I like in the car not the sodding wheels on the bus or 5 seconds of summer
Reading in bed
Having spontaneous sex
Having any sex!
Sun bathing round the pool with my eyes shut

But the good far outweighs any of this. :)

STIGZ · 09/01/2015 16:43

Has cj gone to facebook? Hope everything is ok?

STIGZ · 09/01/2015 16:57

Hmmm the things i miss the most but wouldn't change for the world are :

Long lie in ( getting up 4pm )

Getting carefree drunk (no worrying about a hangover)

Spending ridiculous amounts of money on clothes for myself

Nursing a hangover in bed all day with an indian curry & trashy tv

Spending quality time with my friends & dp

Getting into my car in one swift movement

wondermoose13 · 09/01/2015 17:33

Haha i do miss just getting in the car and just getting out and nipping into a shop
I really miss chocolate & cheese! Especially just chucking a frozen pizza in the oven. But at least thats a temporary thing.
I really missed lie ins and films on the sofa over xmas

Kirstipops · 09/01/2015 17:39

Yep Stigz she's been on FB today,she had a tough night with her lo last night so maybe she's snatching a nap!

sazzlehopes · 09/01/2015 19:54

So if my baby had CMPI would they be happy? Very content creature...only shouts/cries when bored, tired or wanting boob. No screaming for no reason/colic like moments...
No bad nappies-mucus or blood now.
So really I have a baby that thinks sleep is for wimps much like my first ds and is a greedy little beggar!

Yellow your specialist subject is CMPI and your time starts now...Grin

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Missus2ndwife · 09/01/2015 20:35

Evening all

Things I miss:
Lie ins or lie all days
Drinking too much
Sunday afternoon games and wine with husband
Eating hot food
Eating food slowly before someone starts shouting
Sex

Things I wouldn't change
My baby
The look on my baby's face when he wakes up and sees me
Morning cuddles
Smiles
Listening to him chatter

FATEdestiny · 09/01/2015 20:43

My DD was sleeping 11pm-7am from 8 weeks whilst ebf. With my other breastfed children I wouldn't have thought this possible (to the point I would have assumed the person claiming this was blatantly lying)

I'm a tad selfish in that unless it was forced upon me I would fight not to lose milk in my tea or chocolate Blush. Dairy free certainly is not what got her sleeping well. I figure she is just a good sleeper.

But then I don't know anyone else who is cows milk protein intolerant. So it must not be in my genes.

wondermoose13 · 09/01/2015 22:41

It would appear babymoose is playing tricks on us! Fell asleep on the boob, went in cot for 20 minutes, farted himself awake! Lol
Wondering just how zombified we'll be at swimming in the morning. On the plus side his tiny swimsuit is very cute and im really looking forward to it, i just really hope he doesnt scream the whole time!

sazzle babymoose was upset/screamy until his reflux meds were sorted and when he goes screamy we know he needs adjusting. For us the CMPI caused mild skin irritation, congested sound when lying down and refusal to nap in the day/generally crap sleep. We found his green nappies were due to too much foremilk but the mucous ones seemed to be reactions to slip ups in my diet.

Missus2ndwife · 09/01/2015 23:39

Moose, I hope baby moose loves swimming! We started last week and it was such fun.

wondermoose13 · 10/01/2015 00:04

Hmm another 20mins.

wondermoose13 · 10/01/2015 02:16

Babymoose sent downstairs with daddy and is currently screaming loud enough to be heard from space!

fatpony · 10/01/2015 07:31

Small progress: M didn't wake till 7am! And went down at 8.15pm with his usual 3.30am feed. Normally he thinks 6.15 is a great wake up time.

LebkuchenMonster · 10/01/2015 08:29

sazzle snap again Grin. Ds is generally very content, kicks happily around on the floor if fed and not tired, almost never has crying-in-pain episodes. He naps well, poos every 3-5 days and, despite spitting up after nearly every feed, is not in any pain and does not require medication for reflux. He even manages a 5 hr stretch most nights.

However, he has stork marks and I had eczema as a toddler which cleared up overnight when my mum switched me to from cow's to soya milk. Plus I've eaten very little dairy since very early on, so he could possibly have mild cmpi and just not be showing any symptoms other than not sleeping 6+ hours at night. He also has a seemingly permanently blocked nose - can that be linked to cmpi? It certainly seems to irritate him at night.

So would he sleep 8 hours if I cut every trace of dairy from my diet? Unanswerable question to my mind. If it took 5 weeks to make a difference, then either he might be sleeping better by then anyway, or might be in the middle of the 4 month regression.

If it only affected me I would try anyway, but cutting out Indian takeaways and refusing to eat lunch out would affect dh, too, and his job is exhausting and stressful enough without me taking away life's little pleasures.

YellowWellies · 10/01/2015 08:49

Sazzle, Lebkuchen it could well be. Mild CMPI just results in heartburn, mild tummy craps, occasionally eczema and yes sometimes a constantly running nose. Not enough to cause upset during the day but enough to cause discomfort and disturb sleep. Watch out for feeding dairy directly at weaning or switching from FF or BM to cow's milk - sleep may go utterly to shit - if so limit their intake. Otherwise if they're not showing signs of pain or long term gastric damage (ulcerative colitis, painful reflux) and you can hack interrupted sleep then I'd be tempted to just cut it down rather than totally eliminate. If they start to show symptoms of pain then it could be that the gut is getting damaged and elimination is needed to let the gut inflammation recover.

FATEdestiny · 10/01/2015 09:20

We had to wake up DD at 8.45am because she was still sleeping from her 11pm feed. I would have left her but I'm out for the day today and if I didn't feed her my boobs would pop.

I have to decide when I am brave enough to stop waking her for an 11pm feed and see if she can go 8pm-8am. Not sure I want to risk my no-night-feeds status.

YellowWellies · 10/01/2015 09:33

Fate I'm in the same boat! Confused

MundayCakes85 · 10/01/2015 09:46

Baby and DH still in bed. Fed E at 9 and she went back to sleep. So I'm enjoying a hot cup of tea and a biscuit Smile

splendide · 10/01/2015 09:49

Blimey fate! That's a great sleeper!

May I ask you another question? Sorry if I'm wrong but are you mix feeding? I thought I remembered you were but cld be utterly off.

If you are (or if anyone else mix feeding could advise!) , could you tell me when/ how much you give a day? I'm now mixing to try to get his weight up but not sure how to do it right. At the moment I'm giving 3oz at lunchtime and 3oz at 10pm. I think I need to up this but do you think bigger bottles or more bottles?