October 2014 // thread 2 // keeping each other company through the night feeds!

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Hi all, welcome to thread 2!

I think I have piles too, although it has settled a bit in the last day or so. I was getting a bit of fresh blood and pretty painful after going to the loo. Hoping lots of fluids and fibre will keep it at bay now.
Just spent the last 30mins cleaning up poo!! DD hadn't done anything fir 3 days, just been straining, even in her sleep. Well when a poo decided to come it just kept coming!! A bath was the only answer!! Hopefully she'll be more settled today/tonight, just wish she was a bit more regular..

Wow i got two five and half hour stretches im honestly shocked, i have only recently got dd1 who is four sleeping more than that at a time without being wide awake, i really feel for you all who are not getting much sleep, it really is tough, i have been there and like you all tried every remedy, sleeping aid, old wives tale imaginable, after 3 years of hell i decided to co-sleep instead of returning her to bed, i just gave in and accepted that she needed to be close to us to fall into a deep sleep, i did end up in her room most nights but decided that was better than a constant broken nights sleep doing techniques that clearly where not working and was so distressing to her, i wish i just accepted the fact she needed to be close to us from the beginning, it would have been saved a lot of stress, but she was my first and had people in my ear saying "i was making a rod for my own back" etc so i felt like i was doing it "wrong" to be "giving in" to her "demands" etc i done a lot of reading up on co-sleeping and i dont think it does any harm apart from a sore back & neck constantly, when you think about it, mostly every animal has their offspring beside them constantly, us humans are the only species that gives birth and expects our offspring to settle when they are not close to us, just think how many times your baby lying peacefully snoozing on your chest then you do the "transfer" and all hell breaks loose i think if their was no SIDS risks, moses baskets, cribs, cradles etc would not exist. So i say if co-sleeping suits you, LO& your dp ... Go for it, save you a lot of hassle in the long run, some children just need the comfort of their parents, took me a long long time to figure that out

Please may I join in? I've been lurking, mainly as a form of procrastination- due to an epic snafu on my part combined with some incredibly tedious low level drama in the few weeks before my baby was born, I have a deadline for the completion of some work of this Friday, so I've been frantically using all the daylight hours I've been able to get the infant to sleep to try and get that done. Bit worried I'm going to send it off and get an email back asking why I've just written "all work and no sleep" x1000.

So here's me, or rather, here's my small: baby daughter, four weeks old yesterday, born at 39 weeks after an incredibly tedious induction, weighing just under 5 1/2 lb, so she's quite wee, although she managed to put on an entire pound in ten days after feeding basically constantly (thank you that baby).

Her latest thing is waking me up every hour in the night making awful grunting straining noises, as if she was trying to do a poo, but not actually doing it. Does this sound familiar to anyone? She doesn't cry, so I don't think it's really distressing her, and once she's awake she feeds quite happily. Honestly don't know what to do. She doesn't actually have any trouble pooing, expansively and regularly, but I really would like more than an hour's sleep at once some time between now and ever again.

Amen to that, STIGZ - cosleeping all the way here.

Had a bit of a shock when I told my husband I felt accomplished as by 11am I'd showered, had breakfast, dried hair, put make up on, fed and dressed baby, done some tummy play time, put dishwasher on and taken the rubbish out. 2 months ago I'd have done all (but feed and dress baby) and got to work by 8.30am. Accomplishment used to be doing some amazing design work or coming up with a great campaign, these days its getting every day things done before lunch time...

fedup it was actually ok felt a bit guilty afterwards for thinking Ds was going to play up when actually he was good!

Welcome tatty sounds like you are a very busy mummy! :)

My night was not too bad he woke at 3 and 5 but fed and went back to sleep which I can cope with it's when they decide to start the day at 5 I lose the will to live!

Had a productive morning made 2 soups and about to make hairy bikers curry for tea. Never like to count my chickens but we seem to have managed to persuade r to have a nap from 12-2.30 like his older brother it means I have 2 and a half hrs to get stuff done and spend time with dd2. He's been doing it for a week or so now so I think I am allowed to mention it without being scared of jinxing it

Tatty I could've written a lot of your post! Baby daughter born 4 weeks ago yesterday, induced, weighed 5lb12 but has put lots of weight on really quickly. She also does the grunting/straining thing when asleep. I use earplugs every night, I can still hear her but it takes the volume down a bit so I can sleep/doze through it.

I feel the same binky. Getting dd to preschool, clearing up from breakfast and putting a wash on before lunch time feels like a major achievement these days.

I feel like a zombie after a rough night. T has just slept like an angel for an hour so I lay down for a nap but couldn't fall asleep even though I'd been struggling to stay awake, so annoying! Think I'll need a lot of caffeine to get me through this afternoon!

Yes stigz I'm going with the co sleep this time and not worrying about it all. I too have some achy neck action but it's a small price to pay for 3 hours sleep in one lovely stretch. It won't be forever so I'm trying to enjoy the fact little Ned wants to be that near to me!! If sleeping on his tummy on me keeps him happy and less sick it must be right?

Tatty- mine is the same, last night was the worst ever. Grunting, groaning, straining, all apparently in his sleep! I did some serious googling and one possible explanation is when they need to poo they clench their bum shut but push/strain at the same time. They need time to see how things work... Mine is no way constipated. I put my phone on with a 'rain' app so I can still hear hi if he cries/whimpers but not all the straining noises as they don't seem to bother him.

Dd2 seems to like moses basket & wont settle on my bed??? Total opposite to her big sister, think i have maybe done "my time" in the sleepness night jail from my first dd ( i have probably jinxed myself)

Just realised that my post at 11.08 was all about poo!! Oh the glamour of motherhood.

Ok well the oversupply technique I've been trying today is messy! Maybe not one for a public cafe or in front of my PIL!!!

tatty my 5 week old is same, straining away for ages. My googling found same as fatpony - their digestive system is still learning how to push out poop. Let's hope they all get to grips with it soon!

Well, this is reassuring, thank you. It's good to know it's not just us with the grunting. I haven't been worrying about it, exactly, but I've been worrying about not worrying- basically, worrying that four weeks into the life of my first child I'm already massively slack and blase and google-says-it'll-be-fine when I should be acting like a responsible adult.

fatpony, I've seen that explanation for the straining, too, and it makes a lot of sense, because she's not constipated (coughunlikemecough), but all the straining is so unproductive. The times she does manage to poo are when she's relaxed- when she's got a mouth full of tit, basically, or has just had a bath.

All of the conversations in this house have been about poo for the last fortnight. Parenthood. Yay.

Things got worse me23 anxiety sent my BP dangerously high and I'm now on meds which one are you on? I've been put on a waiting list for CBT but part of me thinks I should give in and take the anti ds as they may be less harmful to the baby than the high bp meds.
Cracked nipple hadn't healed and I now have vasospasm in my nipple so I've had to stop feeding on it it was just to painful. I'm hoping when the crack heals the vasospasm will go as it's triggered by nipple trauma and I may beable to bring the milk back but it looks like I may be trying to sustain the baby on one breast now. Sorry for the take of woe everyone

Im so sorry to gun and me struggling with BP and anxiety feelings, I can't imagine how hard that is on top of dealing with other kids and the general newborn woes and troubles. I really hope you have lots of support in RL too and feel better soon.

Hey everyone,
We too had an awful night with constant crying and no sleeping from 10pm - 2.30am ish. It was hell for both so us. As soon as I put him down he'd start wailing :(
We'd had such a great day feeding every 3hrs yesterday so last night was even more upsetting for me. Wish I knew what was wrong.

Today we had his BCG injection which seemed to go well.

Welcome to Tatty! You're amongst a good group of people.

Gun - nothing wrong with stating anti D's whilst you wait for your CBT.

Glad it's not just me with horrible piles (well don't want anyone else to have the pain but you knkw what I mean)
My pelvic floor was awful a couple of weeks ago - felt like everything was going to fall out - was horrid! Has got better though although still not normal...

Gun, one of my siblings did really well on CBT but took anti depressants while waiting (and they were fast tracked up the list as couldn't be in the house with their baby)... I hope things begin to look better soon.

Tatty, not only do our conversations revolve around poo but we have now reached the next level : arguing over who did THAT nappy change where the poo leaked out the side and down the leg (ie they didn't do it up tight enough)!

Oh dear first really stressful evening in the stigz household! Dd1 tired, irrational, demanding ... dd2 pretty much the same bouncy chair had to sit on top of the dining table whilst i made dd1 dinner, which she didnt eat then had to listen to her crying for an hour because i wouldnt give her chocolate, then she nearly drowned herself in the bath blowing bubbles, cue another round of dramatic screaming, now another round of dramatic screaming because its bed time and i have just got dd2 to sleep, im hiding in the bathroom and letting dp take over for a bit... I need time for my brain to de-fry

Hey ladies with other kids, how are you finding teatime/bedtime? I'm yet to do the routine totally on my own (dh is back from work for the last 30mins) but I cannot see how I'll manage on my own. Dh works away sometimes so it's going to be me putting toddler to bed juggling a baby at some stage soon. 2 year old is being difficult about everything at the moment too, which never used to be the case. I have the fear!!!!!!!!

Oh stigz!! That is exactly the kind of early evening I have til dh gets home. Can we do this singlehanded?????

Arrrrgh so if you were two, where would you hide Mummy's mobile? Arrgh there's loads of photos on it, of the kids, that I've not uploaded yet

Argh the wee sod hid it in my best pal's handbag who was visiting this afternoon. Her poor DH has just returned it