July 2006 (2)...Wobbly heads!

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New thread girlys!

Hope everyone is ok.

Have put Jake to bed now, instead of at midnight, so i guess i'll be up early!!
Might go to bed now...

oldiemum - pleased to hear that your ds colic has stopped, it must have made a huge difference and it must feel like normality is returning.

I have had a similar experince with my dd weight gain - it did reach a plateau. she is a hungry baby and over the last week or so now needs a top up of formula at night. this happens after trying to b/f - she gets very angry and cries real tears. it is awful to watch - i think this is because the milk is less rich because i am tired in the evening.D oes anyone else find this? i usually bf for about 45 mins before giving her some formula - she guzzles it if she hasn't been fed for weeks! this makes me feel guilty for working etc. The nature of being a mother seems to be juggling several things at once ... we all need as much help as we can get!!

Hi Girls
Chester ? that sounds quite familiar re the hungry crying after feeding, Emma?s 15 wks now and for the last week or two has been draining both boobs very quickly each feed (total feed takes max 10 mins now) then crying, I assume for more. I have to distract her then or give her a dummy. Very different to how it used to be when she?d calm right down and drop off during a lot of the feeds. She?s also fussing a lot during them. The other day I gave her 2oz formula after bf which she guzzled down hungrily, but I think it was all too much for her as she was sick several times afterwards which she never normally is. I?ve been stressing quite a lot about work so am worried that being busy/stressed is affecting supply, I don?t even seem to get round to expressing, it?s dispiriting because when I do express there isn?t much there anyway. I know that?s what I need to do though to get the supply back up, along with eating properly and resting ? it?s just making sure I do it that?s the problem! She isn?t losing weight though and seems well otherwise, so I?m trying not to get too het up about it.

Usandbump ? how are things with you? That sounds like a nightmare with the sleep deprivation, I saw your other thread. Keep your chin up hun, I?m sure you?re doing fantastically under the circumstances, Zack?s very lucky to have a mum like you. Can?t think of anything to suggest, only thing I could think of is to ask whether you have read the Baby Whisperer as she seems to be quite good on advice for putting them down to sleep, I think her method?s a version of the controlled crying (apologies if you have already read it and flung it across the room though ) Good luck, anyway xxx

Re Hair ? mine?s falling out in handfuls ? my top tip is one of those tea strainer things for the plughole (you can get them in hardware shops)

Twirl ? how exciting ? how long would you go for or don?t you know?

Bloss ? you?re right, he will hate you for that pic ? a good one for threatening to show to future girlfriends! V cute though!!

Gotta run ? going out tonight and DP is babysitting!

Congratulations agalch

As far as I understand from the bf gurus on MN stress etc doesn't not have an effect on milk supply - the reasoning being that women have managed to feed their babies through war and famine. Sometimes if DS is still insisting he's hungry after taking both sides I put him back to the first side again - have you tried this? (apologies if you have). Also expressing has nothing to do with how much milk you have, it just shows how good you are at expressing (and I'm pretty rubbish at it , my pump has been abandoned and I just do the odd bit of handexpressing every now and then for the freezer). Babies are much more efficient at removing milk than a chunk of plastic.

DS was puking a lot today and was pretty distressed at bedtime (usually it doesn't bother him). He was really roaring when DH brought him to me after his bath and wouldn't latch on until I'd calmed him down a bit. He then gulped away like fury before coming off after about 10 mins and hurling everywhere and insisting on having the other side. This is pretty unusual for him, but think he was overtired as he wasn't keen on naps today.

mae west and festering at forty - your experiences re ; feeding sound very similar to mine. dd gets distracted during feeding by - noise, people talking, me typing on the computer. She has seemed alot more alert recently and can only think that the world is getting more interesting for her and food is less of a priority. In the morning she stops after 15 mins - has a little look around and a chat.
I think everyones experience of bf is so different, I find that if I am tired feeding in the evenings is more difficult. My bf varies from week to week - our babies are changing so quickly all the time. My dd has been rather fretful and not her usual smiley self for a week after her immunisations - might this be a reason festering at 40?

hello

was supposed to take jake to nurse yesterday for his jabs but i feel asleep with him screaming in the other room (with my mum).

decided just to be happy and not write anything sad. i am so tired. went to white rose and bought some work shoes, going back on the 18th november im shitting myself. i need to buy more clothes, as ive ballooned in weight and i binned all my clothes when i was PG when i moved back to my mums as there was no room for it and i was too depressed to look at them. all i have left is my playboy tshirt which i love, but wont fit in it for about a year!

hope everyone is ok. i read all your messages, and then when i write mine i forget what everyone has said, but then i do this in real life too....oh dear, not too good when im about to restart a shitty job in a bank call centre!

he slept through last night! On his 17 week birthday
I want to announce it to anyone who will listen!
(Certainly hope it was not a one off - at least it proves he is capable of it!)
I still woke up twice to him moaning, but I put him on his side, put the dummy in and he drifted off....

I started work yesterday too, working from my studio, with DS with me... was difficult to say the least.. am going to try and get into a routine of working in the mornings and doing nice mom and baby things in the afternoons, don't want to feel guilty about working and cant afford a carer...

later, ladies
x

Congrats Sleepis - it had to happen sometime! Hope he manages it a few more times for you.

Chester - DS had jabs on Monday (second lot) and think it upset his system a bit (really nasty poo the day after) and bit off his food and more sicky. I also think with bf that you can get all the advice and support in the world, but you have to work out how it best works for you and the babe IYSWIM. With his morning feed I've started offering one side, sitting him up for a little chat (and hoping that some of the milk will go down rather than come straight up again ). Usually DH comes and says goodbye on his way to work. Then I do nappy change and offer the other side and put him down. Sometimes he sleeps, sometimes he moans.

Off to baby massage this morning, then have my book group coming round this evening, so better do some tidying up! Also can hear rustlings from the monitor...

Hi ladies, haven't been on for about six weeks. Hope you're all well as I haven't really caught up with the latest news. Aren't are LOs getting big and gorgeous. I just love those gummy smiles!

Have been pretty busy with my parents over visiting and then trying to catch up with everything else I neglected during this time.

Amelia has started to become really fussy with her feeding too. It started at around 12 weeks and shes gradually become fussier and fussier. Shes still BF but now pretty much refuses to feed during the day and will feed quite well of a night- the weird thing is shes very content during the day just gets upset when I try to feed her. I don't know how she survives on this amount of milk as the night time feeds aren't that long either - only about 15mins. She dropped from the 50% to the 25% percentile and the HV isn't too concerned because shes still putting on weight - not a huge amount though. Shes due to be weighed again next week so will assess it all then - may need to put her on formula - although I'd ideally not. I think supply is OK but am worried it will go as shes feeding less and less.

Afternoon ladies

Just a quick one. Eilidh had her 1st set of jabs this morning. Screamed bloody murder all the way through then after getting her tights and cardi back on,thumb in the mouth and off to sleep lol.

Have decided on Gretna Green to get married so all excited about it now.

Hello everyone

Well things have improved greatly in the Bumpy household! I can recommend CC. The first time was awful, Zack cried for ages, I was crying too and then dp and I had a big row BUT.... after that Zack has been a dream, he grumbles for 5 mins and then drops off. Yay!!
He had 4 naps yesterday in his cot alone with no probs and is currently enjoying his 2nd nap today again with no probs!
The first night he went down at 8pm, woke at 2am for a feed and went back down until 6.45am. Last night he went down at 8pm, woke at 11.30pm and 1am but then slept through until 6am. A BIG improvement.
We are amazed, I wish we had taken your advice in the first place HC

I'm losing my hair big time but have to say it's actually an improvement it had got very thick. Just hope it stops soon before it goes too far...

Twirl- I would jump at the chance! Good old Blighty will always be here if you don't settle. If you don't you may always wonder what life may have been.

Forty- How was your night out? I have been meaning to tell you that I have seen some pyjamas in John Lewis and Mothercare if you still want some. The little girls pyjamas in Mothercare are very pretty! x

Koshka- Good to hear from you, try not to stress about work. Once you get in the swing of it you may enjoy it. Some time out of the house, adult conversation and keepng busy may just be what you need.

Jom- good to hear from you. I think quite a few of our babies weight gain slowed up alot.

Sleep- Congrats!!! Hope it continues for you!

Agalch- Fab!! Have you looked at outfits yet? Are you having guests?

So glad for you Usandbump - you sound so much happier today. Don't feel guilty about your choices

Hi Everyone

Haven't really had time to read everyone's posts, but I hope you are all doing ok.
Starting to fret about going back to work too, though it's not til after christmas yet.

Well we took the trip to ireland at the weekend, with the in-laws. I don't know who's worse, the in-laws, or my own family all at once (v. large family, with millions of kids...). Anyway I survived, came back with an extra suitcase full of gifts which I wasn't expecting at all. It was great to see everyone but boy am I glad to be home!
Went to playgroup again today, so met a few more mums and babies. Everyone tends to help clear up at the end, but I had Kayley in one arm, my bag in the other, and DS holding my hand, so I wasn't much help. I hope they didn't mind!
Kayley's still great, still wakes once at night, but makes no fuss about it. DS still adores her.
I better go, I have a million loads of washing to do before they wake up again.

Will try to catch up later.

Annie

Evening.

Toby had second jabs today, and didn't even cry. I wonder if it's cos he can't feel it through his thunder thighs which by the way i want to eat because he really is the most edible baby, I am brimming over with love for him. he was much more whingy than usual this afternoon though, poor little thing.

Hey Kosh, chin up girl, one step at a time.

Hi Jom, good to "see" you!

Bloss

xxxxx

Hello - I haven't read the whole thread yet, sorry. I was just wondering if I could join you please. I've only recently signed up to Mumsnet though I read a lot of the threads while pregnant. I had my little boy on 28 July.

Hi All
Went to the clinic today for 2nd lot of jabs and weighing, jabs were fine (much less crying than last time) but she has lost 2oz since 2 weeks ago , is 11lbs 12oz at 15 wks. I?m trying not to be too depressed about it though as she has very healthy looking plump cheeks and though her body isn?t chubby she certainly isn?t skinny. Will weigh her again next week and see how she goes. I?ll also have a go at feeding her more often (don?t know why I didn?t think that before ? duh!) as she has never refused a feed ever and it will also hopefully help to boost supply. I usually wait till she?s obviously hungry (usually about every 3 hours during the day) but no harm in offering more frequently I guess.

Had a good night out last night with the girls, not drunken sadly as I was driving but nice to get out alone all the same. Emma behaved very well while I was out, hurrah.

Usandbump, that?s wonderful, you must be so relieved Fingers crossed for you for lots of happy sleeping!

Agalch ? forgot to say congrats last time - CONGRATULATIONS!! Gretna Green, how fab and romantic. Have always thought that?s a great option, DP and I have both been married before so I really don?t want to have to plan another big family wedding, so eloping sounds like a much better choice!

Welcome twinklemegan !

Koshka ? hope you?re managing to get some rest and feel a bit better now xx

Emma screaming ? been grizzly since jabs, gotta go again! xx

Morning all and welcome Twinkle - hows it all going? My DS was due on 28 July but born on 31, so about the same age.

Mae- thank you I do feel much happier and I'm loving being a mummy again instead of feeling unsure of myself all the time.

Annie- Hi I'm sure my washing basket is bottomless

Bloss- thunder thighs and bless him not crying {{hugs}} for Toby

Welcome Twinkle How are you and your LO doing?

Fester- I hope the extra feeding goes well, settle on the sofa with disgusting amounts of food ( I have the fruit bowl one side and the choccy the other coz it makes me feel better!) Have you tried laying in bed feeding her?
When Zack was at his most difficult and tempermental during feeds this was the only thing that worked. I think he was much more comfortable and there were less distractions around.
It may interfere with her sleep a bit but if it gets her feeding more? Would mean you get lots of rest too although I did get v bored but I'm not very good at sitting still
Who knew motherhood would be such a worry eh?

KZ- Sounds as if Roshi could be ready for weaning soon! I don't know whether to look forward to it or dread it, I have this feeling Zack could be tricky! He is my quirky little pixie after all
Fingers crossed for the haberman, now he is sleeping better I won't be upset if he doesn't take to it but it is worth a try. Although you never know -sods law the last one we try.....

Isn't the weather beautiful? We went for a walk yesterday and Zack looked ever so cute all wrapped up wearing his hat. We have turned the buggy around too so he is having a good look at the world. Although I miss not being able to see him and stop quite often to have a peek at him and he beams back at me so I think he is enjoying it!

welcome twinkle megan!

gretna green - v exciting most impressed.

festering at forty - my dd is same weght as yr lo, i've had a similar experience with the weighing. She is growing quite alot at the moment - why does this always happen after i buy her new clothes!

It's cold isn't it? I am finding it hard knowing what to put her in - i'm a typical cautious 1st time mother. What do you dress yr babies in for bed.

mine wears -
vest + sleepsuit +long sleeved tshirt + sleeping bag +cellular blanket. it has been pretty cold here and she doesn't seem to hot.

have just borrowed yummy mummy by liz jones from the library - quite a funny read!

my mum has been looking for nice snow suits for her - there are good ones in debenhams apparently. I've also bought some nice sleepsuits from woolworth -cotton pointelle with little hearts v .pretty. have good days all!! c x

ive been have nightmarenights the last two night!!!! junior is teething, he has a chesty cough and snotty nose!! he ca\nt sleep because of his nose and keeps waking every 10 mins!

i had a quiet evening last night as everyone went bed early so managed to clean up flat properly, but its not tidy no more, dd has managed to mess everything in the first hour of being awake!!!!!!!!!!

dd wants me to read her a book so better go

Hey all

Welcome twinklemegan did you have a boy or girl?

So how is everyone doing?
Evies good thriving since starting solids! Shes becoming a proper chunky monkey at last, noticed last night she has two fat rolls on her thighs!! Just like her mommy
Evie keeps pulling off her mittens in the night and its soooo cold her went into her this morning and her little hands were almost blue even with the auto heating on!!!! Any ideas would be really welcome!
Anyhow gotta dash someones stirring! Bum was hoping to get dinner in B4 waking!
Jane
oh better change my name too now halloweens been and gone

Welocme twinkle - my ds was born 25th July

Very cold in our bedroom at nights. Recently Leo has had a long sleeved vest, babygro, sleeping bag, and two blankets. Was so cold last couple of nights that I put another blanket on aswell. Poor little mite's arms and hands get so cold. Am thinking about putting a cardigan on, or even a fleecy sleepsuit. We have no heating on upstairs at the mo.