October 2006

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Am I the first one here or have I completely missed the thread? If this is the only thread please come and join me
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Hello, MP, and welcome.

nicand2- can i just ask how do you know wether to put your lo on sma white. My dd is on sma gold but she guzzles loads of it is this why you put you lo on sma white? Sorry bit of a stupid question i know!!

Hi All,

Welcome Mummypossum.

Nic2 - how about those plastic things that 'suck' out the snot? They use them in the states when baby is born and I've seen them here now too.

Well, poor wee A had her first jags yesterday. It was truly awful - brought tears to both our eyes! It was a terrible day, pouring buckets, blowing a gale. She had her general medical first, where I had to strip her down to nappy and then the Doc checks spinal alignment, hips, knees, mouth and eyes. Hip function test is quite uncomfy for them. Poor wee soul was crying already as she had been fast asleep (car journeys and pram walks do wonders). Then she had to get all dressed and go to the nurse for the jags. 1 in each thigh. She went puce with crying it was awful . Better than getting the illnesses though. She is feeling pretty grotty today. The nurse said they are usually okay with the first lot and feel a bit poorly with the second lot, but she is definitely not herself today. I've turned the heating off as she was roasting and I gave her some calpol about 2 hours ago - fast alseep in her wee chair now!
Am getting lots of fluids into her as well.

Have been breast and formula feeding and started to give her powder, instead of ready made formula - it doesn't have stink doesn't it? She had a MAMMOTH poo earlier and it was rank as well! breast milk only poo is much less offensive.

Well am off to wrap some chrissy pressies now whilst I have a quiet moment - am going to atempt to make mince pies too!! Not that I need them as I am a pie myself just now!!

Fingers crossed we all have a peaceful night with happy, stuffed babies

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Hi all,

Feels like I have spent the last 24 hours trying to get dd to sleep. She nods off for about 30 mins max then wide awake again screaming. Last night was crappy, no sleep. Hopefully just a blip and not a new pattern! She normaaly only goes 2.5 hours max between feeds anyway. Sleeping through seems like a far off dream!

Anyone have any interesting ways to get bubs to sleep? I think dd is getting dependant on feeding to sleep and haven't had much luck with getting her down any other way. She HATES her pram, screams when she gets close to it. Strange child.

Can't make the 11th as my parents are coming over from Australia for xmas (yay! two more pairs of hands) but if another is planned for next year would love to meet-up.

[shrieking baby icon] 30 mins.... there goes, right on cue...

Another sleep-deprived mum here - W woke at 2am last night wanting to play - didn't get him to sleep again until 3, then awake again (briefly) at quarter past 4. I knew that chocolate would be a bad idea - only myself to blame

Mummypossum: yes, it is odd to introduce yourself with your mumsnet name, but you won't be called that all trough lunch (unless you really want to). Looking forward to meeting you on the 11th. I know what you mean about the isolation. Do you have any NCT postnatal groups in your area? Id didn't do the antenatal ones, but now meet up with a few mums regularly - we even got to the (chld friendly) pub last week .

Squiffy: coming without your baby is cheating. You will be the only one eating with both hands. We will expect to see the baby at the next meet-up without fail

Mellin: have you read the No Cry Sleep Solution by E Pantley? There are some good tips for newborns - the two I'm following are to feed baby until he is sleepy but not asleep, then remove the boob, and to put him in the crib when sleepy but not asleep. The theory is that when he wakes up it' not in completley different environment from when he fell asleep. Doesn't always work and can take a bit of putting down - cry - pick up - feed - put down etc. but does seem to help in stopping him from screaming as soon as he wakes up. She also talks about getting your babby to sleep using different methods, but it sounds like you're trying those. I may keep banging on about this, but a bouncy chair was a godsend for us - W in it at the moment kicking about.

Mellin, I have found swaddling has worked really well for the last couple of nights. I couldn't get it to work at all at first then I was reading Harvey (? is that right) Karp's book in the bookshop and he recommended swaddling with arms by sides rather than at 45 degree angle. It has definitely helped DD stay asleep after waking in the night - before she would wriggle out of swaddle immediately.

i always swaddle my baby,it worked for last DDs too,they always slept throgh when swaddled,i also use the AMBY baby hammock,helps with colic and is very cosy

catgirl, genius suggestion re weight of pushchair, thank you 'smile'. if it doesn't work i may well end up on the bathroom scales one legged. don't feel bad with the feeding catgirl you've done really well with a really tough situation. there is only so much that can be born. maternal guilt seems par for the course for everything from eating chocolate to the formaldehyde lambskin fleeces, you just have to try and ignore it as much as possible.
deep envy swizzler that you've been to the pub. i'm still on house arrest trying to produce enough milk-think it's really picked up as i sprayed poor lo all over her face today
am typing this in a haze-it's 7 minutes to 8 and for the first time in 4 weeks am not holding a screaming baby trying not to join in. it feels odd. would love a bath but i know Hope would sense it and kick off. oh bum, she must have heard that, can hear her kicking off right now, just had to think about the bath

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Marthahm - glad I am not the only one with a child who can read minds - at night I only need to think 'maybe she is asleep - I haven't heard anything for a while' and that's guaranteed to make her start! and she has a strange knack of wking up 5 mins before my dinner is ready and demanding food - I have forgotten what it is like to eat a hot meal!

She seems to be much more aware of things now during the day and has much more defined awake times and night times - I find that if I put her bak in her basket after her night time feed, even if she is awake once the light is out and it is dark she seems to realise it is sleep time and will get herseld off to sleep - most nights she sleeps from midnight to 5 which is blooming marvelous - am now scared to have any more children unless they are devil children who are awake constantly.....did I just say I was thinking of having more... what was I thinking.. must go and find cake to take my mind off that thought immediately

welcome mummypossum and skinnyliz!

Possum it is really upsetting when you inflict LO's first injuries. I remember scratching dds leg and feeling so guilty for having long(ish) nails. Tongight i bumped lo's head on side of bath. Fortunately he didn't even blink but I had to sit there rubbing it for 10 mins just in case!!
Felt guiltly today also cos I had to feed LO during 3yo dd's bathtime which has always been exclusive quality time with her. She was crying in the bath (hence the head bumping) but wouldnt say what was wrong. When she got out of bath I tried to put towel on her one handed but it landed on her head and started her crying again. 'i dont want it on my head - i want you to dry me and i want to sit on your lap' OOps not much room for two.
Managed to calm her down tho and told her that lo cant help when he's hungry we had nice storytime, etc without him crying and interrupting it so hopefully she's not mentally scarred for life!!

pmoore- interesting what your HV says about the snuffliness at night - is calming down a bit only starts at about 5am now. Is not upsetting him anymore, just keeping me and dh awake!!

Welcome mummypossum.

Just when I thought I had a baby that slept through the night.............! After a week of at least 7 hours sleep, last night it was 2.30-3.30am then I've been up since 5.30am. LO is happily lying on her changing mat with no nappy on- smiling away at me. Makes it all worth while.

Mothercare are doing buy one get one half price on all pyjamas- for those of you that use grobags and only put top halves on their LO's PJ's are great because you can slide the bottoms off after last feed without disturbing too much.

LO is 8 weeks old today seems like ages ago was reading our antenatal thread- all of us were soooo fed up by the end, now look at us all!

taffy101- HV says there is not a lot can do about snuffles, except try and maybe put books under the head end of cot. They don't recommend using inhalant decongestants until 3 months but apparently off the record some people cheat and put it on themselves- baby ones. Also I bought some sodium chloride nasal drops from chemist- one drop to each nostril before feeds.

Sorry about the long post- while LO is kicking away thought I'd get a chance to post.

Have a good day all. Putting up the tree today as Samantha loves watching lights.

Glad I'm not the only one with a snuffly baby. I've got some of those drops, so will try.

W grumpy at the moment - he's dribbling a lot as well so DH suggested he ight be teething - NOT amused .

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hi mummypossum, welcome. haven't seen any footless snow suits. how about buying a cheap one and cutting the feet off the suit?
would you believe at 8pm on a sat night poor dh has gone to mothercare with lo in babybjorn to buy reindeer snowsuit (9 quid mummypossum). still it was him who wanted to get xmas cards done with lo in silly xmas outfit . have to admit, jumped at the opertunity to stay home and avoid the arsenic hours of Hope screaming . lovely lovely peace and quiet.
we are now thinking maybe lo isn't struggling to poo but to pass wind. my god, how many prunes have i been eating to try to help her. the poor little mite .
does anyone else's lo shriek with pain and pull off when they feed? she calms down as soon as stops feeding, until obviously she gets indignant about being away from the feeding station.
i wish i could stop having to analyse every movement she makes to attempt to work out what's wrong.
btw-anyone stuck for xmas ideas, snappy snaps can do mugs with your pic on and your own wording, eg world's best granny etc. they cost £15 and has sorted all 6 grandparents

mummypossom.try pumpkin patch,i got snow suit from there with no feet.
Martha,my LO pulls off and screams sometimes,not sure why she does it but its usually in evening and i just assumed milk wasnt coming out fast enough for her or at all so she was getting annoyed.

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martha my dd went through a phase (3 yrs ago now) of pulling off breast and screaming - like floaty i put it down to insufficient milk/milk not coming out fast enough. HV told me to eat more bickies as need more calories to keep the milk supply up. I tried this (was a hardship tho lol). The problem went away - maybe it worked, maybe just coincidence. So just scoff all the nice xmas food for the next month.

pmoore - i must try them drops you mention. DH is getting grumpy from lack of sleep. I'm not too bad but spose i don't have to go to work.

possum - bless your LO, must be hard for you. Seem to think you can get snowsuits that the feet bits button on and off

Mummypossum: Green Baby do romper suits without feet, also trousershere . We have the blue velour ones - v camp

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possum you got me laughing and crying at the same time

mummypossum, the starfish hands always remind me of the episode of friends where Joey is pretending he is a dancer to get a job. the only bit of the routine he manages is the 'jazz hands' at the end.

"DIRECTOR: Listen Joey, seeing as you've got the most experience, I want you to take these dancers and show them the combination.

JOEY: What?!

DIRECTOR: Aw come on Joey, it's easy. Y'know, it's hand, hand, head, head, up, out a beret, out a beret, big turn here, grand dechant, desont, desont, slide back, step, step, step, and jazz hands!

JOEY: It's ah, step-ity, step and jazz hands.

DIRECTOR: Have fun."

Morning All,

Mommypossum - why don't you check out ebay for snowsuits sans feet? Saves you having to traipse about the shops. Have to say people whinge about the NHS but they have been amazing to us as well. We are all incredibly lucky to have such a service. It truly is amazing what they can do these days.

Has anyone been watching 'A child against all odds'? I adore Robert Winston - he is amazing and have been watching 'A child of our time' since it began in 2000. We are blessed to have our LO's even if they are wee sods sometimes!!

A is feeling better now after her jags - took 2 days though so get the calpol in if your LO is due them. So we are going to brave the shopping centre today to get last minute bits and bobs. We are lucky though as it is a fairly new centre and has breast feeding areas and bottle warmers in the baby change areas. Does anyone else have these too or is it just a new thing?

Have a nice day all.
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