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October 2006

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Bronze · 01/10/2006 21:04

Am I the first one here or have I completely missed the thread? If this is the only thread please come and join me
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majormoo · 11/11/2006 12:10

Milliee and jmc-the poo stories really made me chuckle.
Congrats to dogmum
Hope the infections clear up soon those that are suffering.

Gemmity-we will be moving ds to a cot in a few weeks. he is 3 weeks now.
I only change nappies at night if he has pooed.
Gingeme-hope you manage a relaxing weekend after your stressful day. well as relaxing as possible.

Had a good evening last night as ds slept from 8pm-11pm and then dh fed him expressed milk, so i had a whole evening off to enjoy my red wine, steak and chips followed by runny cheese. mind you my boobs were huge by the time he woke for his 4.30am feed!

Despite the exhaustion and fact I get no time to myself at all, we still managed a discussion last night about when/if to have a third and final baby. the lack of sleep must be making me unhinged to discuss such things!

Gingeme · 11/11/2006 19:11

Good evening ladies So far Ive had a lovely day compared to yesterday. My 2 older ds's are here for the weekend and theyve been so good. Went to the library to change ds3's books and they were all laying on the bean bags and reading to eachother. Lo been on a feeding fest this afternoon. Had friends round for an hour or so and they bought gifts for lo ds3 and chocs for me. Once they went lo seemed to feed and feed and feed. Phew I can see why some Mums give up breast feeding about now!! Im seriously thinking about getting a dummy to settle lo of a night time. None of the other boys had them and I dont realy like them but it might save me from running on empty at times.On a good note I my dh bought me some new trainers on Thursday and I bought some bottoms for me which were a size 16 I wasnt even that before I got preg. Wore them today with my new coat my parents got me for my birthday and felt quite glam. Just to go to the library he he

Gingeme · 11/11/2006 19:12

Oh dogmum come join us. Hey another Edward. Love it. Hope your ok. xxx

totallyfloaty35 · 11/11/2006 19:41

Hi All,Lexie not in a cot yet as she sleeping in an Amby baby hammock and she still looks tiny in it.They v gd though she settles well in it and it seems to hug her as its curved,it also rocks if she moves so settles her back to sleep.
Has anyone given up on the BF now? I have started mixed feeds again today as just never seem to get a minute to myself,i figure a formula feed a day will let me do some cleaning or cook dinner,with breast feeding i am stuck to the sofa with baby and i still havent managed to get a supply of expressed milk put away,it gets drunk about an hour after i express it.
Went shopping today and bought little baby tights and dresses,DH not impressed as told him i was just buying a pair of socks..just got carrid away as its all so cute.
Gingema,Lexie has a dummy,im not keen on them but they help her settle and it was in the papers that dummies help guard against SIDS as it encourages babies to breathe,not sure if true but it made me feel better about using them,anyway she spits them out if she doesnt want them.

PrettyCandles · 11/11/2006 20:13

Hi all. We haven't set the cot up yet either. Ds2 is still in bed with us, and I'm not keen to set u the cot (not much space in the bedroom) until I'm sure he's only wsaking once at night. 'Night' is very loosely defined as between midnight and 6am! We're getting there.

Still struggling to settle him to sleep, though. A dummy is good for soothing a baby - I used them with all my children - but do be so careful about using them for sleep. We did that with dd and really regretted it. They get dependant on the dummy and can't settle without it, which is a real pain when it falls out every hour or more often through the night.

Mummy-radar is starting to kick in at last, and I'm waking just before ds2 starts roaring for his feed, so I'm generally able to silence him with a boob before he wakes dh.

Sometimes ds2 is so over-enthusiastic for a feed that he latches on before I'm ready. Invariably he latches on to the underside of the boob, with the nipple squashed up his nostril. Luckily I don't have a strong let-down as he'd get a nasal douche if I did!

Swizzler · 12/11/2006 13:56

Glad things are settling down Gingeme. I need to buy some new clothes as well - not thinking about the sizes...

Got a copy of the No Cry Sleep Solution and found the bits on newborn sleep really helpful. Managed to settle DS last night without feeding him to sleep and seems to work - still waking for feeds but more settled in between. Thanks for the advice on changing nappies

It is q liberating to get out on yr own w the baby, tho scary. Will try a shopping trip next week.

Hope everyone's having a good weekend

Gingeme · 12/11/2006 18:18

Good evening ladies. Well my ds's have gone back to their dads after a good weekend. Didnt realise how helpful they can be bless. Kept ds3 very busy over the weekend while lo seemed to have another feeding fest last night and this afternoon. After doing so well last few days going 3 hours between feeds. Well I said to dh if lo carries on like this and hasnt put any wieght on by next Fri when the mw visits Im gonna put him on formula. But it seems hell cry like mad suckle for 10 mins then fall asleep. Do this over and over through the evning so Ive resorted to a dummy which I hate but it seems to have done the trick. Wouldnt mind but its one of those cheap ones you get from the corner shop. Put it in boiling water for 5 mins he sucked and sucked and has been fast asleep for about an hour now. Atleast it will give me time to refill. Anyone else tried this yet? Realy dont want to give up breast feeding if I can help it.

purpleluce · 12/11/2006 18:18

Evening all - hit day 10 today and nips are tender but not cracked and no mastitis (yet!) which is an improvement on dd1 !
jmc thanks for tongue tie update - really glad it went well. I have now got little one feeding off both sides (provided not too engorged)and have also got him to take a bottle of expressed. I'm sure the bf mafia would say I am going to give him nipple confusion but frankly, he needs to be flexible with me as both of mine are different and vary according to how much milk is there still and ultimately, if he carries on feeding frenzying at night then he will get a bottle of formula then like dd1 did as it will give my nips a break, and give me chance to have more than one glass of wine!

Anyway, suspect this bf "success" means they wont want to sort the tongue tie but seeing a lactation consulatn on Tues who can sort it if nec. Sometimes he cant take about 15 mins to latch on and my patience is somewhat shorter at 2am!

Carseats - think it is unlikely you would ever get a baby seat and I dont think that minicabs have to supply them as my recall of the law change is that everyone has to use one unless you haven't got one/have an acceptable excuse !!!! ie grandparents/taxis just means there is a get out if you had to travel without one

Anyway, sorry for long post

Ho

purpleluce · 12/11/2006 18:27

Gingeme - what about mixed feeding? With dd1 I used to go insane with the continued evening feeding when your milk supply is supposed to be dwindling and less rich anyway (is that a design fault) and dd1 used to get a bottle of formula by dh at 7.30/8.00 which would take her till past midnight and then gradually later and later (so we never did the dream feed or whatever it is called) - which meant I could drink normally and then do the feed in the middle of the night as a bf which is pretty convenient for all parties. All my other feeds were bf's (unless caught short) and I think once your milk is established it isn't a problem.

Depends on your view on exclusive bf but my understanding is that your baby gets immunity benefits from 3oz upwards per day of bf so a bottle of formula here and there wont hurt and may keep you feeding actually if it makes your life better.

anyway, will certainly consider it myself with this lo espec with christmas parties imminent and getting bored with expressing!

Justers · 12/11/2006 18:34

Hi all! Haven't posted for a while. Leo has had all his tests now for his jaundice and thankfully they are all negative and it will just take time to clear as I'm breastfeeding. I have also invested in a dummy(Leo is 3 weeks tomorrow)as my nipples couldn't cope with the constant feeding betweem 8pm and 2am!! It seems to have done the trick and health visitor comes tomorrow so I will find out if he has gained weight (he lost over 10% of birthweight after a few days). What happens at your postnatal check up- dreading another internal exam!!

nicand2 · 12/11/2006 20:00

Yes we've also resorted to a dummy to get lo to go a bit longer between feeds - anythings worth a try for a bit of peace and quiet in the evenings.

Had a busy day getting ready for DH going away tomorrow but at least the house is clean and tidy and the washing is under control (for now anyway!)

I've been feeling a bit better as I managed to squeeze myself into a pre pregnancy skirt today, it's amazing how much better it makes you feel.

Gingeme · 12/11/2006 20:48

Phew thanks ladies for that. Dont feel so bad about giving lo a dummy now. TRouble is as Ive never given the others one never sure when Im supposed to give him it! Dh's boys had them and he seems content to stick it in his mouth every time he makes a squeak which is starting to pee me oof I dont want him to be that independant on it. If lo is in his rocking chair dh sits and rocks it constantly too even if lo is quiet gggrrr Im not going to be able to do that all day when dh is at work so STOP BLOODY DOING IT!!!! Sorry feel better now. Well gonna give lo a bath tonight as he was being passed around a bit when visitors were here. So goodnight to all. See you tommorrow. xx

Popsi · 12/11/2006 21:19

Hurrah - I'm here at last! Lazy little thing was 10 days late-Daniel William was born on Friday morning at 4am - 7 pounds 7 ounces and I got my waterbirth - more on the birth announcements when I get round to it. Not any less painful than last time but quicker! Came home Friday afternoon. He's feeding well - although that's not any less painful than last time either but at least I know it gets better eventually.

girlygale1 · 12/11/2006 21:55

Hi everyone, Gingeme, my dd1 has a dummy - she had one from a couple of weeks old - she is now 2 1/2 and totally dependant on it, we had all these grand plans of getting rid of it when she was one, but then decided she was too young to understand, then when she was 2 I was pregnant so decided that wasn't a good time for her, so are aiming for 3 - but she has it most of the time (more so now lo is here). I hate seeing her with it, and she only has it if she is sitting down, sleep or needs settling, but definitly not if she is walking around...lo now has one - but mainly in the evenings as it seems to be her 'niggly' time.

I am totally up for suggestions on how to not give it to her to sleep so we don't get her too attached - but on the other hand it settles her and as I was 'reassured' when dd1 was little ... at the end of the day its all about survival, and if it gets the baby to settle (and go through the night by 9 weeks!) then why not!!!!

Gingeme ... at this exact moment dh is picking up lo and holding her. PUT HER DOWN!!!!!!!!!! I know exactly how you feel!

Sorry for long post - anyone got any tips?

Gingeme · 12/11/2006 21:56

Well done popsi and welcome to our post natal thread at last. What did you think of the waterbirth? Love the name Daniel was one of the names we were concidering. Look forward to hearing the full gory details xx

Gingeme · 12/11/2006 22:01

Thanks girlygale. Have just given lo his bath and a feed. He fed for half an hour and fell asleep. Put him in his moses basket and he started crying after about 10 mins which he usualy does. ThougTH Id try the dummy(much prefer the American term'soother') and so far so good. He seems to be a sucky baby. Well Im off to bed now. Keep up the good work ladies. xx

Gemmitygem · 12/11/2006 22:41

Gingeme: I have the same prob, but in my case it's the well meaning inlaws constantly rocking him and holding him (of course they should really cos they're his grandparents), but my inner voice is screaming 'put him down! give him a break!' It's funny how once you have a baby you fundamentally don't really like anyone else handling them: I never imagined that..

other things I didn't imagine BEFORE having him:

  • feeling aggressive if I think someone's threatening him, like a few days ago a cyclist rode too close to the pram and I literally growled under my breath like a lioness 'geddaway from my baby!'
  • someone else is holding the baby and you look down and your fists are clenched with tension/and/or you're always standing up, ready to take them back.
  • how easy it is to get into conversations with anyone and everyone when you're out with the pram as they all lean into it and ask questions (this could just be Belgium)
  • that 'we're all in the same boat' smile you exchange with other parents of babies
  • the extent to which you understand their needs after just a few weeks
  • how emotional you get, couldn't stand reading the memorial announcements for remembrance day today in the newspaper.

Right, enough tedious musing cos I could be using this time to get some shut-eye before the next feed!

hope everyone had a good weekend!

Gingeme · 13/11/2006 08:31

Good morning ladies. Well dh has just left for work. ds3 and I are both washed and dressed and breakfasted. lo is still asleep in his moses basket so were on track so far. ds3 got to be at nursery for 9.15 so Ill wake lo at 8.45 to geet him dressed then he should be ready for a feed about 9.30. Phew! Watch this space

nicand2 · 13/11/2006 09:09

Good work so far Gingeme. DH left for Calais at 6am this morning and so far I am dressed, DS1 is dressed and lo is asleep. I have also had to change a magnificent dirty nappy on DS1 'an up the back special'

Not a great night again as lo was hungry/wet/over tired most of the night. In the end I put him in bed with me at 5 just to get a couple of hours sleep.

Starting to feel like parenting is survival of the fittest!

PrettyCandles · 13/11/2006 09:09

I do so agree with you, Gemmitygem, about how your attitudes change with a baby. Though I disagree about seeing others holding him - personally I love seeing ds2 in someone else's arms, as I get a different view of him, sor t of like getting to see him all in one go. But if he cries then it's all I can do not to snatch him back! Even when he cries in his daddy's arms, I have to tell myself "It's fine, he's with his daddy, dh loves him and knows perfecly well how to look after him. Don't interfere."

And it's not just in Belgium that a baby becomes a confersation opener - it's a wonderful excuse to speak to strangers here in UK as well.

Someone (JUsters?) asked about internals at post-natal checkups. It's certainly not standard to have one. You shouldn't need one unless there's a problem - if you feel well in yourself and have healed up etc, then the dr/nurse may not even want to look, and if they do then you will probably be lying on your side, rather than spread-eagled, which is much less unpleasant.

I'm amazed at dh's ability to sleep through the night. Ds2 and I had an absolutely dire night, I lost track of the number of times he poo'd after the 5th time between midnight and 5am. And dh slept trhough all the noise and having al the lights swtiched on repeatedly!

totallyfloaty35 · 13/11/2006 09:48

Hi all.Dh away so had to stock up on ready meals as no time to be creative with LO feeding constantly in evenings.she slept through from midnight,had to wake her at 8am so could feed her before taking DD2 to school.
She did feed all yesterday evening though,from 6pm to midnight she was almost permanently attached.I gave her some formula but it seems to make her ill,she had 3 really runny nappies and lots of wind after so now im not sure what to do.Maybe i should try a different brand,am using cow & Gate but with my last 2 dds i used aptamil,she still has a bad tummy today.I would do purely breast feeding but i want some time to do other stuff occasionally.
Congrats Popsi,well done on getting your waterbirth too

EmilyTurner · 13/11/2006 10:22

Hi everyone

Zachary James was born on November 11 at 6.36pm weighing...10 pounds 10 oz. I went into hospital at 1.30pm with contractions 3 mins apart (they just arrived at 5 mins apart after lunch). Took gas and air and 1 shot of pethidine. They had me ready for an emergency c-section and I had to hold still for a line to go in my hand and they moved me to a huge room. But I got him out with just 20 mins of pushing. He came out the wrong way, head up looking at the sky but somehow, thank the Lord, I didn't tear and needed no stitches.

I am so glad my turkey is here - full story at www.doingitallagain.com


Breastfeeding is, erm, interesting. I had a terrible time with Molly who is now 3. She would suck like hell and not open her mouth properly. Zach opens and latches well but is a lazy sucker. But I am not sore yet, which is better than last time. Last time I was bleeding like hell after 12 hours. So I am just presenting to him about every 1 to 2 hours and giving it a go on each side. He sometimes stays there for about 90 secs and does suck, so he is learning. He's got a lot of weight to carry him through and I can bear the screaming with frustration. I don't get that panic of "OMG THE BABY IS CRYING" thing I had with Molly.

All I can do is my best!

nicand2 · 13/11/2006 10:55

Congratulations to Popsi and Emily! Emily you did well to push your lo out without having to have the c section! you must be very relieved.

Gemmitygem · 13/11/2006 11:01

well done emily!

mine was also a stargazer, and also didn't tear: wonder if it's somehow a good position for the baby to be in from mum's point of view!

purpleluce · 13/11/2006 11:10

HV just left and lo hasn't gained any weight in the last week so hasn't regained birthweight - seems a bit of a gutter when he seemed to be feeding well and pretty frequently. Better just glue myself to sofa to bf