March 2013- the one where plonk gets married!

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Perilously close to filling the old thread suddenly!

Hope the weathers good for your trip Doli. And car sick-less to boot! That's a fair old jaunt, how long will it take?

Uh oh Betty. What's he done? Or should that be not done? I very nearly called my lovely midwife a thundercunt but I think I just told her to piss off. I felt so ashamed afterwards, she really was lovely. I'm not a fan of the C word. She did make me lie on my back to deliver though. Far worse than a ventouse, turning onto ones back at 10cms.

Stormy perhaps the midwife thought she's be delivering your next baby in 18 months!

I had the teensiest pang of broodiness today at the thought of DSis now being just three weeks from her due date. Ahhh squishiness

Doli we had fish fingers for the first time here today too and I too was rejoicing! Anything new and non-carb is a huge victory.

Stormy I can't be arsed to whine about it but I can be arsed to be fed up of him for a while.

Plonky, Thundercunt is an impressive insult and one I shall add to my insult bank for DH very special occasions!

Betty you rancid cowbag what's he done? How have you left things? I second Doli and Stormy, don't kill him, think of the mess. Any and I are too far away to assist.

Doli and Stormy great job with food progress. I wonder whether it's a wonder week breakthrough. We have fishfingers here sometimes too. I like to have something to surprise people with. Feeding fish fingers to my pfb and me drinking pepsi are my nods towards not being a total hippy. I love fishfingers myself too. With a side of rice when I'm feeling poorly.

Rainbow, thank you. You're right and that lovely article you shared ages ago about the woman who travelled somewhere overseas where breastfeeding culture is so different, came to mind. Hoping my boobs work tomorrow and that we get back to normal. I'll start offering moo milk again daily so that like stormy's nieces (?) she gets it eventually. I hate moo milk myself and drink rice milk instead but I'd prefer Ecotod to be normal if poss.

Night all. Sleep well and late rises to you all. Especially to you Plonky, let's hope ds makes it a habit.

Happy Thirsty Thursday all you thundercunts and rancid cowbags only on MN

eco how are the boobs today? Back to normal with a thirsty girl now the drugs have worn off?

betty I am of the 'don't kill him' mind, too, there's too much planning involved in that if you hope to get away with it. However, the girls in Chicago made it look like fun, so if you want to wear leather and sing a sexy song about how much you enjoyed it then, go for it otherwise...don't. I hope with today being a new day that you no longer want to anyway, and you both woke up to birds chirping and the sun shining on your faces!

doli pens are for doodling here now too. He doodled me a butterfly at CM's yesterday and it's just about the most wonderful masterpiece anyone has ever seen ever. And I'm not just saying that because I'm his mum... Enjoy your break at the Lakes.

I'm spending today at work handwriting an application for another job. I already have an interview (tomorrow, ahh!) but because I emailed my CV, they now want a handwritten copy...weird. I'm meant to start work tomorrow at 8am, my interview is at 9am so I have my excuse (I know, I know, I'm naughty but remember, I hate my job) and it's an excuse that enables me to return to work post-interview, or sack the whole day off and have a day to myself should I choose. And the latter sounds more and more tempting by the second

Something murder in Chicago does look fun. But I'm not much of a razzle dazzle-r. If I ever killed DH (what, me?) I think I'd end up like poor old Lester in Fargo, trying to outrun the police and falling into a frozen lake.

You all have doodling?! Wow. I'll have to hothouse pfb with crayola and sketchpads see if DS has come on any since he last scribbled all over SIL's birthday card.

I am freeeeezing. I'm sat here with thick socks and a woolly cardi on necking cup of tea after cup of tea. It's moments like this I hate having a desk job and not being able to move around to warm up. Give me a pallet of wine boxes to shift any day!

Oh. I meant to mention last night, but was derailed by thundercunt. My dear mother waded in on the issues between me and DH. I had no idea until my sister told me yesterday. Apparently she sent him a text as a gentle reminder of the virtues of give and take within a marriage, and on cherishing your partner! Good on that woman. Even better, DH hasn't mentioned it to me and actually seems to be really trying. It's...strange. Otherwise I'd be in the murderous camp with Betty.

No lie ins here today as I am in that there London for work. Running somewhat tighter to schedule than I'd hoped at present which means I am seriously testing my pelvic floor - 3 glasses of water in last meeting and no time to stop for a wee before it got on the train! Wish me luck!

No lie ins here either Wotta. I've half a mind to go and smash the burglar alarm that woke DS in the middle of the night and ruined our nice run of real sleep.

Ooh I hope your train has nice toilets. Those ones on Virgin trains where the whole side of the bog is the door give me the willies. I always worry that I've not locked it and it's going to open up while my knickers are around my ankles.

Done that before, Plonk. Not recommended unless you particularly enjoy dying of embarrassment?

What's a lie in? I'm sure I used to know, but it's been so long...

Today marks the three year anniversary of the man declaring that he was too scared to ask me out. I have flowers and chocolates. Calories consumed on special occasions don't count, right? Right?! They'd better not, cos I've just constructed us apple, bramble and raspberry crumble for tea.

Phew, obviously done enough Kegels . Made it. No loo on train at all - was pesky intra-London job with no services not posh one. Had to pay 30p for privilege at the station, but it was worth it. Sorry to lower the tone. Am now sitting on train with Ipad and keyboard hoping I still look all executivey now I have stopped doing actual work and have paired it to my phone to come on MN

Betty, hope DH has stepped up to whatever it was today and you are feeling more sanguine. for Thirsty Thursday?

Go Plonk on the business front, and for those sneaking off for interviews good luck.

Any and Eco, I hope life is feeling a little less bleak. Sometimes just letting it out and being able to whinge on the bad days helps and you know you can here if you want to. I have been thinking of you.

Also thinking of Can'tTurn this morning for some unknown reason. If you're still lurking occasionally I do hope things are going well for you and your lovely family.

Doodling eh? I have a couple of "paintings" from nursery but they are for the album on technicality only (first daubs and all) and he has yet to do anything but suck the nib of the fab waterbased drawing kit we have (Doli, I think you have this too?) while I try and encourage more deliberate water marks than those left by dribble...

I have filled out 3 accident forms at nursery in 3 days. That's a child who has just learned to walk, that is!

SIL staying for a few days and then up to my DSis for a few more next week when I am on holibobs for a fortnight (oh yes...)

Plonky so are you in favour of the meddling or not? I think yes? Shame it was required in the first month of married life but best to nip things in bud eh? And yes, chuffing cold. I fed Ecotod under a blanket tonight and used her as a hot water bottle.

Something good luck tomorrow! May it be the route out of paper piles.

Wotta I fear the accident forms will not fade any time soon. We've been toddling for a while here and there seems to be a blood letting every day of some sort and magnitude. Careless buggers!

Stormy all that chat about not remembering your last lie in! You had an epic one where she slept until ten o'clock just the other day! I remember that because I'm so How has the eating gone today? Still on a roll? Grown up yoghurt yesterday, enchiladas today?

I met the childminder today. She was nice. The way she spends her days sounds broadly similar to mine although there's after lunch TV and I can do a 0730 to 1700 day on a Tuesday for 28 pounds I think we'll go for it, starting second week in September. That's good news.

virus seems vastly improved today, I've been out of bed and doing stuff. Miracle drugs.

Eco so glad the napalm worked. Was ecotod glad to see boob juice again?

Just a quick one to wave good bye to you all for a week as we are off tomorrow morning.

FIL is house and dog sitting (brave man), I've packed everything for me, and everything for the Toddle, but DH has packed precisely nothing for himself, which could be interesting come the chaos of tomorrow morning when we are trying to get us, plus stuff, plus small protesting person up and out in the minimum possible time. Is this a theme in other houses or am I the only one lumbered with a last minute packer? They are a complete PITA!

Night all. Sleep well.

Eco you do sound a bit more chipper and well done on finding a good CM.

I took the collective advice and headed to the gp this afternoon. I started crying the second I sat down so there obviously is a problem. She talked me through the options and gave me details for counselling but also a prescription for fluoxetine in case I decide I want it, and a follow up in 2 weeks. She's also going to get the HV to give me a call. Trouble is, I haven't told anyone i'm struggling, even DH. He knows something's wrong with me (hence all the tension and communication issues we've had) but isn't sensitive enough to know he could help me rather than threaten me with divorce. I will tell him once I decide if i'm going to take the pills. I feel a bit better knowing i've started to do something, even if it is only the first step. Watch this space!

And have a safe (vomit free) journey and a hell of a time Doli - you are not alone in that DH packs nothing until about 10 mins before leaving. Helpful much!

Any well done. I hope you're able to talk to dh soon. I think a lot of people don't recognise what depression looks like, and getting him to understand can only be a good thing.

Eco good news on the childminder. And wow, she's a bargain! How on earth you manage to do a whole day with a toddler and not resort to Cbeebies for even 20 mins is beyond me. The only way I get enough work done is to give a snack and Cbeebies as soon as we get home. I might get 45 mins of peace that way. Great parenting eh?

Not sure how I feel about the meddling. Obviously it has had a benefit, and he didn't have a mard on about his mil sticking her nose in when she really thought she needed to. Good things. But is my opinion so unbelievable, so deranged, so not enough, that we need to crowd source the fixes in our relationship?

Doli good look with the trip. Definitely not just you. Dh cannot get himself and ds ready for toffee. Well he can but it's like a Greek tragedy.

doli have a good trip and hope it is vomit free.

any well done for going to the gp. I think whether you take the medication or not you probably should speak to dh about how you are feeling. He might be supportive. I am glad you are feeling a bit better after the gp appointment.

I wonder if there is any research on postnatal depression after childs 1st birthday. It is clear just from our group that we can experience postnatal depression well after the first year. Health professionals seem to focus on the early months after having a baby.

eco I am happy you are getting better. Did you try the cows milk with dd?

I feel a bit more like human now. After my mini melt down last night about ds being a shit sleeper he slept from 9-3am. I so needed that unbroken sleep.

May the rest of the year be full of good health, laughter, happiness and lots of doodles from our cute toddlers.

I think you're right yummy. Maybe a post natal check at around 15 months to check you are ok? They say you have to live a year and a day without someone before you can adjust so maybe it's the same when you add a baby into your life?

Everyone's quiet. I hope because everyone's off having fun, and no one's in the pantry with the plague.

So this last wonder week / developmental leap is awesome. Fartypants has suddenly got much better at entertaining herself without needing to screech at me every seven seconds self-directed play. I have tentative hopes to get a bit more crochet done from now on.

eco you're right, I did have one proper lie in. The only one in eighteen months. It was grand but it wasn't enough! Roll on the next Shirebrook expedition!

Any have you spoken to DH about what's wrong yet? I've seen a lot of people on here saying just admitting they weren't coping was half the battle.

Have been off having some fun Stormy. Not too much though, I'm not that daft.

DS's teething reached new lows last night. He seemed to have a night terror type, erm, terror less than an hour after going to bed. Luckily we'd opted for an earlier-than-usual dinner, as after 30 mins of joint effort pacing and attempted soothing proved futile. And he was in my bed, with me, at 8.30 pm. And thank god I got an early night, because we were up no fewer than four times. So that was fun. On the other hand I read about a fifth of To Kill A Mockingbird.

Otherwise yes, I'm finding DS quite delightful. The mardying is less scattergun now, and more in direct relation to something tangible. Unless tired. Then it's more shotgun than sniper. He's currently complaining because DH won't put beer on his dummy but seeing as a mardy involves throwing dummy and monkey at DH, I fear he's not onto a winner this time. And the rest of the day has involved a little bit of shopping, a little bit of housework (shared!), a few special cuddles and some food. DH has bought a PS4 so I insisted on the rest.

Eco, Any, ow do? Any progress in terms of feelings/burdens shared? Do tell.

How on earth did you have the energy for special cuddles after a night like that, Plonk?

Biggest paddy today was because I wouldn't give her a biscuit five minutes before tea. It was quite the strip, complete with throwing things on the floor and wailing as though the world had ended.

Me, I've spent the entire afternoon wrestling with a job application. For Aldi. Can anyone suggest any super awesome phrases I should work in there to guarantee me an interview?

Oh I'm lazy Stormy. Co sleeping means I get semi decent sleep. And for the cuddle...dh does all the hard work .

As for a job applicant at Aldi? Well I'd imagine they want to hear that you're efficient, capable of taking direction and focused. Their business model is quite streamlined in a very similar way to a particular wine shop I know all about. The key to getting on there was focus. Imagine you've a pallet of stock that's quite mixed up. You have to break it down on the shop floor while people shop around you - some of those people will tut at you for getting in their way while others will just say hello, and some will have questions/be looking for something specific. After being nice and helpful you have to go back to your pallet and remember what's gone where/what's still to go out. Not to mention shifting a heavy pallet down a narrow aisle of shoppers. So what qualities do you possess that would enable you to do a job like that?

I possess experience doing something very very similar in the charity shop. Stock rotation is such fun...

Hellish question on there though. "Please describe the most challenging experience of your life to date. This could be physically or mentally demanding. (max. 100 words)"

for Any. How's the weekend going?

Plonky At this stage of newly Wedness I was a few weeks pregnant and most certainly not interested in cuddles, special or otherwise. I'm of your honeymoon period! Sounds lovely. The broken night less so. How are you tackling the teething? Calpol and bonjela?

Stormy, application wise we say stuff like patient, cool under pressure, hard working, versatile, efficient. Plonky's advice sounded, well, sound. Good luck with that.

I'm a grim and grumpy little small (anyone read that book too many times too?) The physical illness shite plods on and as it does so my resolve to do owt about the depression withers. I just want to feel well for a straight week or two to give myself time to grab some stuff by the horns. That's my hope!

Cross post Stormy. I guess they're getting at how you overcame that particular challenging time. I guess they may question you about that at interview.

Team work - I always say I work well as part of a team, as well as an individual, and self motivation. Not much help but i've not had an interview for yonks...

Not mentioned anything to DH as yet, simply because he went off on the boat this morn with a couple if mates and will be back tomorrow. I invited the DPs over for afternoon and dinner (so I didn't have to face an entire day alone with DD) and I survived well. I find strength in numbers and struggle most when I've had no adult contact for hours. Not picked up the prescription yet as I feel optimistic. But I have got to do something about my face - I catch myself looking very miserable and frowny and that's what needs to change.

Oh and I had a couple of glasses of tonight which made me not care that DD's toys were still covering the living room floor. No one's coming round at this time of night...