December 2012 tantrums galore and they're not even two yet!

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Hope everyone finds this and I haven't doubled up!

I've got really bad back pain and ds is spinning on his zebra crying. No idea why!

Actually pidj well done for leaving him - I found it super hard to leave dd1 for a couple of days at this sort of age, even though I needed the break but couldn't ever switch off enough. Actually I'm v impressed with his lunch!

Actually we had a lovely day, and saw a timber sports display - was not very impressive but I phnar'd each time they started a race with the words 'hands on your wood'! I'm a 38 year old jeuvenile!

pidj you always sound so chilled. I love it.

years of anxiety and depression have forced me into finding silver linings everywhere

Good for you. Have you tried mindfulness? Whenever I find myself heading into an unpleasant state I revisit it and it's always enormously helpful.

Finding silver linings everywhere sounds good to me

H has been saying 'reach it' today when she can't reach something. Sometimes she says it very clearly most of the time it sounds like shes saying 'eat shit'. I'm a child at heart as everytime it sounds like 'eat shit' i giggle.

hales that is hilarious! I do hope you've managed to catch it on video.

Not yet but i will try, it took a few attempts for her to say reach it clearly. So at first i wondered where she had heard eat shit and also why she was running round the garden chasing bubbles shouting it.

Hales when DD was 18 months old she started saying Bugger. We went to a naice pub for lunch and she shouted it into a crowded bar. We were desperately trying to work out where she'd picked it up, even asking MIL if she'd said it. Turns out it was toddler speak for Maka Paka (from in the night garden), which she'd been given for Christmas!

H woke up screaming loads last night, but was hard to settle. I just assumes more nightmares but she has woken up this morning and has been crying loads, yesterday she was abit whingy which is rare for her. Shes now cuddled up to me on the couch and clearly has a temperature. Not sure what exactly is wrong with her.

Poor H. T was super miserable for a week with a virus (I assume) recently.

T's speech has come on massively in the last few weeks. He's always had a good vocabulary, but it's just exploded. He's parroting lots of things we say, but also started saying 2 and 3 word sentences. The first we noticed was "water in there" (pouring water into a bucket), but he's also started with "daddy this way" etc. He's used to giving orders and being obeyed. It can get a bit trying when I'm stressed with E crying too. He's very insistent on when he should hold her, and when I should put her down or pick her up.
He's very well behaved with her, the only trouble I have is with him being too generous with kisses, cuddles and food. I caught him feeding her quavers the other day - she's only 6 weeks! Luckily though E loves the sling, she spends all morning and all afternoon in it, waking up only for T's nap time . Unfortunately I don't think I'm tying it quite right, my back hurts after a while. That said, I can have it on for 4 hours at a time, twice a day. Am I expecting too much? pidg?

Utopian being pregnant with a toddler is hard work, and you do wonder why you put yourself through it. The added hormones and tiredness also seems to push things into a much worse place. I'd like 3 DC (DH wouldn't), but if we had a 3rd I'd want a much bigger age gap. It's lovely having the two close in age, but I don't think I could handle 3 under 3!

I'd like to try leaving T with someone to have a break, but at the same time I'm terrified to do so. Part if me thinks he'd be fine and enjoy himself, but most of me is terrified of the "what if". What if he gets upset and wants me and I'm not there? I've never even let him go out with his GP alone yet, though they've been itching to have him since he was a couple of weeks old. One day I'll let go a bit, probably quite soon, as GPs are buying a car seat ready to whisk him away somewhere.

hales I can't wait to have conversations with T, he's quite close, but doesn't seem to grasp the concept of talking about the past. He'll certainly tell you what he wants to do in the future though. I'm always amazed by H, she seems so advanced in everything. It'll be interesting to see if she stays ahead if the curve.

Stacks could you try leaving T for short periods and then gently building up the amount of time hes away from you. I know this sounds awful, but i love it when H goes to my nans and having some time alone.

WL she seems to have picked up as the day goes on, i'm hoping she sleeps better tonight.

Where is everyone? The thread seems so quiet at the moment.

at ils for dn and mil's birthdays!

stacks what have you got and I'll see if i can help

We took our brood to chessington world of adventures today (thanks to tesco clubcard) and had a great day, despite getting drenched at one point in a super heavy downpour. T is still so boob obsessed she tried to latch on to a statue of a gorilla! She did love seeing the real gorillas and monkeys in particular, although pretty much all the animals were a hit. She loved the driving type rides too.

WL it amazes me how much they love animals, i love seeing H's face around animals.

H slept well last night i am so happy. She was asleep in her cot by 9:15 slept till 1am but settled as soon as she saw me. Woke up again at 1:50 no settling so she went into my bed and DP woke her when he got home about 7:30 but she had a bottle of milk and fell asleep for another hour. So i'm proud of both her sleep and lack of bottle through the night.

Just got outbid with 3 seconds to go on a pair on Lelli Kelly school shoes for DSD

Hales get yourself to TK maxx, they don't have Lelli Kelly's but they do have v pretty v cheap school shoes.
We were at Cheshire oaks on Sunday and I think the WHOLE WORLD was buying school shoes in the Clarks outlet!!!
My DH says always put your absolute max bid in with 5 seconds to go rather than the next bid up then if you get outbid you don't get as cross cos it's out of your price range anyway :)

pidg I've got a woven sling, size 6 I think. I do a FWCC I think (it's similar to the moby wrap instructions).

I've not taken T to the zoo yet, though I really wanted to over the summer. DH couldn't be bothered though.

Schools here went back last week, so all our playgroups are on again. It's the festival here just now too, so it's super busy everywhere in town. I've steered clear of everything. I don't like crowds at all.

Maryland I was Cheshire Oaks on sunday as well, how strange. It was the busiest I've ever seen it. Thank you for the TK Maxx tip

Stacks I use to love crowds but now I hate them too, that was one pf the things that made me realise I had PND.

Took H to the beach tonight to get some photographs the little dare devil jumped straight in the sea. She absolutely loved it. Me and DP are going to take her again soon.

How lovely hales wish we lived near the beach.
How's the PND now? Well done on the sleep. T was a bloody little monkey at bedtime tonight and got in a right old state. It took me an hour to settle her - so much for a quick night for me (big 2 are having sleep overs at gps).

I don't really know how to describe it now. Its completely altered my personlity, I hate all noise now and cannot stand being in a room full of people or I start getting panicky, but other than that I think its fine.

The beach was a half an hour drive away but totally worth it

Is T asleep now? H is lay next to me singing away hopefully she'll be asleep soon.

Make sure the fabric that crosses the back is flat with no twists. Spread the fabric across your shoulders neatly - I found having it totally flat down to my elbows then bringing the bottom rail up to my neck so the fabric folded was the most comfortable. Get yourself to a sling meet (or if you can get to Southampton I know a shop you can go to) to ask advice from someone trained :)

Nope, too tired, sorry! and all round x

Hi everyone,

I've dropped off the thread for a few days as I've been side tracked by the Christmas Bargain thread!

Had a terrible day with F yesterday, he was the only child in a totally packed out country park screaming like he was being tortured. I felt judgy looks coming at me in waves :(

Much better this morning though and very much looking forward the the BH weekend, we're all off to see some medieval sieges at two different castles. We're all going to love it!

Hales, hope you're ok, PND is a bitch that I sometimes think will never go away. Hope today is better for you.

coffee there was one of those in Black Park yesterday when we were at DN's birthday. I wasn't judging just felt sorry for the poor Mum trying to deal with it (kid was yelling about being confined to buggy after hitting, older than ours I think so not you!)

hales I'm glad to hear you're ok but sorry there's still remnants of your pnd. I have had bouts of depression over the years and I do think it changes you - it def made me more nervous of crowds. I also think some of that is about getting older.
coffee T got in a right tizz with much crying and screaming yesterday and today bedtimes. I'm sure the neighbours can hear. I was tough love mummy tonight though so hopefully she'll get back to going to bed nicely asap! I have a horrible feeling that it's tied in with her being back on the boob.