The 9th Broadly Gemini Bus - the one with first birthdays!

[Lorelei353]

Ooh Inge to start a new thread. So if the last one was the one where they don't sleep, then they'll start to sleep now, yes?

I go back to work next Weds Kitty. DS started properly today. Full day today, tomorrow and Friday. I've just done a lovely yoga class and am using the next few days to have lunches, get hair cut etc. miss DS though.

pear definitely want to hear all TTC details! I'm beginning to accept that I will do it all again but not yet!

Yes pear you can get it over and over like a cold, isn't that a pisser
The fact she's a thumb sucker makes it worse I suspect as she's always got her hands in and out of her mouth

Yay, bring! I was beginning to think you'd forgotten us! V glad MIL is feeling better - such a shame she was bad while you were over though!

Frus, I love your response to your mum! Genius! Fab sleeping skills from the boy... Hope it's the beginning of a better pattern for you! How did DH get on with having them all overnight? Or, more to the point, how did they cope with being with him!?

We've got major molar issues here too! He's had 2 come through without too much issue - one I didn't even know about until I caught sight of it while cleaning his teeth. No idea when that came through! He's now got a cold on top of teething pain which meant that he slept for about an hour last night before he started screaming. We ended up bringing him down & he just sat on my lap feeling sorry for himself for about 2 hours. He did settle again quickly when DH put him back up but woke up at some point after we were in bed & ended up in bed with me until 6.30 when the thwacking hands in my face got too much! I have no idea how people co-sleep with babies once they're mobile. He's just way to wriggly!

Oh, also, DH is being completely unreasonable. We're entitled to tax credits but he's refusing to fill in the form because we won't starve without them. I've been trying to persuade him it's a good idea since Runt was born but he's always been reluctant. Before we went away last month I ordered the form & he agreed. Finally got round to filling in the form this weekend & once I'd finished filling in all my details he announced that he didn't really agree to it & so wasn't going to fill it in. Cue major argument which revealed that he didn't even know what tax credits are. 15 months I've been talking about it & he's not listened once because he'd already made up his mind. He's yet to give an actual reason why he doesn't want to apply, just that he feels 'uncomfortable' because we 'don't need it'. I agree we won't starve without it but... the plaster is literally falling off the walls in some places & it's only a matter of time before all the cracks in the ceilings mean they fall down. All the money would go into savings for big things like that & for the DC's future - I don't want to be trying to HE them & not be able to afford to take them places that would be educationally beneficial. If we had that money going into savings then we wouldn't have to put the amount we currently do every month that usually gets reclaimed at the end of the month when we've overspent on our budget & wouldn't have to feel guilty about 'luxuries' like spending £18 on a new top that actually fits me & isn't one of my old maternity tops. I hate that we do our accounts & DH looks over it to find out why we've overspent & how much we need to transfer back out of savings & sits there saying things like "Well, you did spend £20 on those jeans... which is fine..." It always makes me feel guilty, even though he's not having a go at me about it. I'm I really such a terrible person for wanting clothes that fit & are comfortable & don't have holes in without feeling guilty?! My favourite nighty is more holes than material now but it costs money to replace it so I'm making do for now because no-one sees it. I'm fed up of feeling bad about spending money when there's money we're entitled to. He has no problem with child benefit though!

I'm definatly with you on this one Agnu! How utterly ridiculous, if he's no problem with child benefit then why not tax credits? After all the government have decided that you are deserving of it and as you say it can go towards your children's future! I wouldn't like to say down the line no you can't go to uni etc because dh was too stubborn to fill in a bloody form you'd probably be massive better off with it, I know it adds up to a lot if your entiteled, let's hope you can back date it, don't give up keep in at him or fill it in and just tell him to sign, I can't bear being made to feel guilty about buying things and it could be classes or things to improve your ds's life

I could never forget about you {heart}

He needs to just suck it up and sign the damn form. Tell him all the ladies on MN will come and knock down his door, tie him to a chair and make him sign if he's too proud to do it himself. It's not like it's going to be announced in the local paper, or over the intercom at the office that you need tax credits. Jeesh! Plus, it's not about him. It's about his wife and his children. Also, WTF. It's a 20 pound top! Cheapo and if it makes you feel better, then you're nicer to him, and then he might get some. Win-win.

Molars must be cyber-contagious b/c M has been popping them out as well. She got up 4 times last night and then screeched in my ear from 4 am-onward after I brought her in bed with me. Twas not a good night.

Kitty, maybe add some vitamin D drops to her morning routine to see if you can boost her immunity and help keep the HFM incidences down?

Frus. LOL!!! I would do the same exact thing to my mum b/c she would text me the same type of question! That is awesome news that baby Frus took the water. M would just scream louder if I tried that one!

Pear. OOOOOHHH! Is that a good kind of smell aversion? Are you getting close to the end of this cycle?

Hah hah bring! No today is cycle day 5. Got a long time to go! If I fall pregnant this month then I'm going on holiday pregnant...a little nervous about the thought of flying in the early days! Oh well... If it happens it happens.

I was only about 9wks pregnant maybe even less with kitten when I went to Egypt pear, 'twas fine
I've got some vitamins bring got it whenshe first developed hfm but havnt religiously given it to her must admit, it puts me off at the min just as we've been dose ing her with that many things, it feels like here we go have another but yesterday she only had her thrush medicine via mouth, no need for calpol etc so maybe start it again today, a good night last night and the one before so fx we are through the worst! I think it must have been the molars that were the root of so much pain it was just couldn't be worse timing with how bad her mouth was on top

Wow they're at the testing age aren't they! Just had to let bpear CIO for 15 minutes because he's started to refuse his morning naps this week. He's decided that he would quite like to be fed to sleep not happening as that is easy and the nicest way for him to drift off. Hmmm back to sleep training we go!!

On another note. Has anyone recently had a smear test? Asking because I was wondering how long it took to get results back? I know they say 2 weeks but hoping one of you say it only took 7 days!

Smear is on my avoiding as long as possible to-do list... I've never actually had one. I got pregnant not long after my 25th birthday & been rather busy since! It's probably nothing to worry about though. The results will be back when they're ready, regardless of the result. They're not going to hang on to a negative result for an extra week if they have it! Just depends on how busy the lab is. I've worked in a hospital lab & it's standard procedure to tell people the maximum length of time it may take & then try to get it done sooner.

I survived my solo night! PIL had plans yesterday evening so it would've been too complicated for us all to go. Runt woke up a couple of times thanks to his teeth. The second time I brought him downstairs with me & he fell asleep on me for 2 hours. I only knew he was awake when I was watching Our Zoo & there was a little giggle followed by grunting at the bears on screen - he seems to think all animals roar, squawk or grunt. Except pigs, he makes a very convincing pig noise! I eventually went to sleep at some point between 5 & 6 so got a couple of hours before the DC started shouting. Also had a doze for an hour while they're watching DVDs so feeling vaguely sane. DH on his way home, via the office so should be home by 5 at the latest - 2 hours earlier than usual!

Bring lovely to hear from you. Glad you're home safe and sound and sorry to hear things were so tough while you were here.

Agnu well done! First solo night down.

Pear I had one recently and it took about a week to come back. It was super quick. Agnu I can't believe you've never had one! Do they start testing here at 25? I think I was first told to have one in Ireland at 18, when I went on the pill. Over there you're invited to have one every 2 years, but since I've moved here it's been every 3 years. I was due one just as I got pregnant so was well overdue by the time I had it a few months ago. I actually went about 4 months after giving birth but it was really painful and she didn't get enough cells. When I went back a few months ago it wasn't painful at all and all was fine. Smears really aren't bad at all

It's 25 now I think lor or maybe it's a postcode thing but like you I was about 18 when I first had one, I had one just before I got pregnant with kitten, Agnu you know you should have one...... Wags finger

In Wales it's 21 but I got married & moved to England before that. There was really very little point in going before that because, according to my gynae nurse mum, "nuns don't get cervical cancer"! It's also incredibly unlikely if you've only ever had sex with one person, who's only had sex with you. I'm fairly confident it's not something I really need to worry about but I will probably, maybe, get myself checked out sometime just in case!

Agnu ~ if I do only one good thing this week It shall be to Beg you to make an appointment this week. Plllleeaaaseee please please make an appointment pretty please. If I have to go this week then so do you. I'm doing it for bpear. You must do it for runt and calf

Frus ~ bpear is not at all bothered about TV but he loves loves loves his Wiggles DVD or music nursery rhymes. Music is the only thing he cares for. We now hide all the controls as he's obsessed with asking us to put it on and he even knows how to insert the DVD in the tray

And you've seen kitten singing let it go she watches nothing I tv either unless a dog or animal she like sis on and she has to point and mimic it
Agnu, unfortunately nuns get cancer too, ignoring something doesn't make it go away/ cease to happen cruel to be kind!!

Mine says it can take 2 weeks but after about a week this time I got a letter saying it was clear.

Runt only usually pays attention to music but he'll sit & watch things if he's sitting on me.

kitty "Another study done in 1952 of 13,000 nuns found no cases of cervical cancer... If you have never had sex with anyone else, but your partner has, then they may be carrying it and can pass it on to you." Neither of us have been with anyone else so the chances of HPV are highly improbable. The only risk factor we have, other than the fact that I've had 2 DC, is a lack of circumcision. I know HPV isn't the only cause but the chances of me or a nun developing cervical cancer are astronomically low. I have done my research on this. Having said that, I don't intend to avoid it forever. Having anyone examine my body is incredibly difficult for me so I need to be in the right headspace before I can even attempt it or I'll just end up having a panic attack & they wouldn't be able to do it even if I could walk through the door. When I do go I'll have to take DH with me because I'll mentally shut down & won't be able to remember a word of what was said after "hello". This isn't about doing it for my DC. Right now they need a mother who's capable of caring for them, not someone who's obsessing about a result that will almost certainly be fine, having panic attacks & generally drifting through each day with little thought of things like food or decent clothing. DH needs me functioning right now too. He can't afford to take any more time off work to look after the DC if I'm like that. I won't gamble my mental health when the odds are much higher that I'll have anxiety & depression because of it than actually have cancer. I'm doing what I have to to fight the battles I know I have right now, anything else will have to wait.

Sorry, that was more of a rant than intended! I just get a bit frustrated when medical guidance makes assumptions about me. Both booking-in appts the MW looked at me as if I was crazy for pointing out that an STD check wasn't necessary. The first time I just let them get on with it but the second time I refused permission on the basis that it was a waste of money. I have a family member who runs a hospital lab department who often complains about the cost of blatantly unnecessary tests. They've have tests requested for female patients for conditions that only affect men on the basis of 'exploring every avenue'! The NHS is so under-funded but shoots itself in the foot sometimes!

Agnu It's just a public health standpoint to tell everyone to get it done. And you are right, when it comes to HPV it is extremely unlikely that you could get it from having only one partner. But, the fact that you have had sex (obviously) and nuns haven't (presumably), would still put you at a slightly higher risk than a nun. Also, let's face the nitty-gritty truth, not everyone's partner is faithful and it's better to tell all women how important it is to get tested for STIs and get smears to catch these things. It's entirely up to you! That's the great thing about being an educated adult .

M LOVES TV frus! She's obsessed with Sofia The First and Doc McStuffins when the boys are watching it. She's also all about any kind of animal which automatically gets put into the "baby" category (everything is "baby!!"). She'll do a funky little dance too. She's a character!

I traveled to England while pregnant with M. It wasn't that bad. Just had to wear support stocking b/c of extremely swollen legs. {sexy}

Did my post just disappear? Hmm

Weird, it did.

Sorry Agnu. I tried

I'm sooo not looking forward to my appt but I'm looking forward to it being over Focusing on that. Before I had bpear I would have put it off way longer but now I have a real reason to stick around and a huge responsibility to him to keep my health in check! Enough said