January 2014 - hoping for more sleep

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I am soooooo tired today. Archie has been really unsettled the last few nights from about 4am onwards. Sometimes he's hungry, sometimes he wants to play, sometimes he wants his dummy. The last two nights he's ended up in with us as it's easier to replug the dummy, pat etc.
YAWN.

I love Castle. His relationship with his mum and daughter is brilliant, I could watch it for that alone!

Castle lovers unite! .

Felix great to hear you have power again.

So I womaned up and got my fillings done alone. It wasn't too bad, I think I may actually love my dentist, but am on a soup/rice pudding/porridge type diet. FIL took me there and back and I managed to get home in time for Cals jabs. He was very brave and is now sleeping them off in his pram.

Xander had jabs today too. Unfortunately he has gone down the arsey route rather than tired. Sleeping on me now though.

Trying to think of something exciting to do tomorrow given it's my last day of mat leave but drawing a blank. We've done two parks/nature reserves this week so that's out, bit chilly for the seaside and not enough cash for retail therapy. Hmmmm.

Hi peeps, not been on here for a while.
Baby pumpkin had her jabs today too! and she has wailed on and off for a few hours, although for a while after the actual jabs she was as happy as larry.
She has settled finally, but I have a feeling the upset hasn't ended. Poor sausage

Moved her into her seat unit on the oyster, although she is only 16 weeks as she now hates the carrycot with a vengeance as she cannot nose out when out n about
She seems contented in the seat, although I have put a lovely big cosytoe and nice shoulder straps in for comfort. The seat says 6 months, which I think is it a bit OTT as not all babies can fit their carrycot by then!

Sorry if this been discussed before but what sleep patterns r yr LOs doing? Mine still wakes 1-2 times and eats so presume hungry though may be more for comfort. Not sure how to try and get him to sleep for longer. Thinking about trying top up with formula early eve plus dream feed around 10. He's ebf but always been fussy so not sure if he's getting enough in day to get him through night. Also struggling with dummy. He loves it but I need to take him off it somehow as he now keeps pulling it out then waking up and crying for it. Zzzz happy Friday all bank hols yey!

Part one in a series of rants about today

PIL are hiring another car so we can all go to Thomas Land together (we are buying everyone's tickets so it works out, we also said they could just take ds1 (I'm not fussed and they are crazily excited about it))

MIL told us they couldn't pick up the car before 8.30, so would be at ours for nine. Dh told them we would do breakfast (why?? They are adults and can feed themselves! If they aren't here until 9, we've already been up for hours and fed ourselves, so this is extra work) and gave them the choice of croissants and jam or bacon and egg muffins. They chose muffins, of course they would. Dh told me that it was good to give them a choice and that I would be making it anyway (rage, but i moved on)

Spoke with MIL a couple of days ago, she confirmed car pick up at 8.30, so I told her i would start cooking breakfast at 9. All fine, she agrees.

This morning, kids are dressed, I'm not, but i will be by 9. Explain this to dh who is bloody shaving at the moment (he just trims his beard) who tells me they can't pick up the car before 9, so they'll be here at 9.30. I explain the above, he says he spoke with MIL yesterday.

This has ticked me. I'm very organised, it's just how things are. So this is frustrating. If I knew it was going to be 30 mins later, i would have dressed the kids later (ds1 attracts dirt, Henry keeps posseting). I'm annoyed about the breakfast thing. I'm also pretty confident dh hasn't told his mom we aren't going for a meal tonight afterwards. I said no because the boys will be tired and it isn't fair to take them to the pub for tea. Much better to eat and home.

So this is part one. Stayed tuned for part two.

You would be making it anyway?? That alone would make me seethe and want to thump him million. And totally with you on dressing them at the last possible minute.
Would a takeaway work for tonight?

I'll join you in the pissed off club. So far this morning, I have put a wash on, ran the vacuum round and attended to both boys. Cal is majorly fussy this morning and has been difficult about feeding. DS1 has been difficult and threw a tantrum as he wanted my breakfast and had to be placated with a second small breakfast. All the while DP has sat there ignoring it all on his kindle. I wanted to beat him with the vacuum stick. Even more so when he spent half an hour leisurely looking for his socks

To top it all, my lecturers gotten in touch about coursework, it previously had 'ach sure, don't worry about the deadline. Get it in whenever' attached to it. It's now in for next Thursday with a PowerPoint presentation. She's done this before, so my works all planned out but still a pita.

The house is still chaos, as I've been too ill/busy to do it. And we're in the process of moving rooms so things are not put away properly in prep for going into different rooms. I want to move out and leave the lot of them to stew in their filth.

million rant away, sounds like a tough day , I hope it gets better!

another Leah's sleep is getting better, last night she slept at 8 for an hour, then 2 lots of 2 hours and one of 3. DH took her for a few hours at 5 as she kept stirring. She's started going back to sleep a lot quicker and easier, which is great. It was taking me 2-4 times of putting her back down below she settled, last night it was the first time every time

enormouse I remember your lecturer being crap I hope your DH pulls his finger out soon.

million I hope you are on your way to Thomas Land now. Just make sure DH does all the nappy changes/toilet trips/piggy backs/feeding all day, tell him "he would have done it anyway", and waltz off leaving him to carry kids/bags and push the pushchair.

I wish I knew what makes DHs adopt the famous fucking five mentality every time an outing is mentioned. Are they worried about predators? Is male DNA actually 99% sheepdog? My DH is foreign and has never heard of Enid Blyton yet he is still afflicted, down to insisting on packed lunches for any trips over 30 mins.

enormouse that sounds really crap too, and I remember your flaky lecturer. My DH has invisible blinkers too, it's crazy. Can you take Cal out on some enjoyable errand and leave him DS1 as a present and a cleaning instructor?

MrsG glad things are getting better.

Mum is coming to visit for the weekend which is very exciting as it will hopefully pull us out of our little can't move for small children bubble. It has also encouraged me to be slightly less manky than usual and clean up the house. DD wants to take her to Disneyland and has had her dress picked out for the occasion since Monday.

N has woken up and is beginning to get fussy. I know this is not allowed on MN and I don't mean to brag, but he is really cute and it is such a relief to have a baby I like as well as love.

Aww at your DD and her dress altered, and it is lovely that you feel that way about Nour

I'm glad the nights are improving mrsg

million and enormouse give your DPs a kick in the shins from me

Oh crikey I think we have hit the 4 month sleep regression! Last night DP put her down to sleep at 8pm, and she woke hourly until 3am then literally every 20 minutes from 3-6am. I feel like a zombie! She did the same the night before too. Please tell me it doesn't last too long

Hello all, I finally got round to figuring out how to reset my password for here , though have been lurking and reading for a while...so much going on!

felix & book I feel your lack of sleep pain... I am hoping we have hit 4 mth regression thing a bit early otherwise this is a pile of poop. Emily has gone from waking up once a night to every 2 hours. Although on the plus side I can usually get her to sleep about 8-8.30 instead of 11pm like before. I know we have been really lucky up to now and those of you whose babies sleep like this 'normally' you are my heroes. I can't get her to feed properly during the day either as there is too much going on so I think she saves it up for night. Zzzzz.

Had BCG injection done this morning, hoping she doesn't get so feverish this time. She screamed before the nurse went anywhere near her. Too smart for her own good this one.

So we emigrate in 12 days! First lot of boxes from the movers arrived today. I am not ready for this. We have a month holiday in the US before going to Australia and I haven't booked any accommodation after the first 4 days. Eeeeeeek

Hope you all enjoy the bank holiday x

Sunshine I've been struggling to get Sylvie to take her bottle through the day too, and I read its one of the signs of sleep regression so it is possible you've hit it early! I'm the same and have be very lucky that she's usually a good sleeper so totally agree that I am in awe of you guys who have it like this constantly! I would have ran for the hills by now!

Hi to everyone who is up in the night tonight! It's mid afternoon here and Alex and I are sitting by the pool whilst dh and dd swim. It is 30C and I have so far managed not to burn either child. Have just started the road trip part of our holiday and it has coincided with Alex not liking the car seat which is tricky. We've decided to take things slowly and just drive during naps.

altered I had a chat yesterday with dh about him shouting at dd. She is going through the terrible twos and is being really horrible to him. It's classic attention seeking though because she misses him when he works away. He's agreed to not rise to it as much to see if that helps.

felix IME with dd the 4 month sleep regression is a permanent change for the worse - they're harder to settle and sleep associations become more of an issue - but it isn't always as bad as at first.

Tarka pool and sunshine sounds lovely! Where have you gone? Sorry must have missed that you were going away.

Just been reading about the sleep regression and it can last months I think I've taken for granted how good she's been before this! It was every 30 mins through the whole night again last night. I gave up trying to sleep at 4.30 and have been watching telly with a coffee. What's the thing about sleep associations? I read posts where some people have said they have stopped feeding as much and giving a dummy at night but I don't really 'get' what I'm supposed to be doing

Hello from a very rainy Tuscany! We're here for a friend's wedding. F was v good on plane and all day at the wedding which was a huge relief so we're feeling very lucky.

Reading your posts about four month sleep regression is filling me with fear!!! Good to see all the signs you're mentioning so we can keep an eye out - F is 12 weeks on Tues!

Hmmm book why is there a dragon emoji?

Tuscany! How lovely! Glad the journey went well.

Reading up on it, it doesn't happen to all babies so hopefully some of you will avoid it

Very jealous of tarka and angel! What's everyone else doing for the Bank holiday?

Right, last night was Percy's best night ever, she managed one stretch of 2.5 and one of 3.5 hours (longest ever I think!) She also had 5 hours of naps after we got home from the osteopath. So anecdotally (and probably coincidentally) something good seems to have happened. I still haven't told DH though, as he spent yesterday emailing me articles about how it is all bollocks, so if things carry on this way he'll just think it is a miracle .

I've also decided that one of her reflux meds is making her worse, so I've decided to stop the Domperidone. She had awful stomach cramps/wind, and had started to be sick which she hadn't done before. I also read some scary stuff about it being full of salt and having terrifying side effects that I wasn't aware of, which helped make my mind up. If she goes downhill I can always start it again. I'm relieved though as this one was so difficult to get into her!

felix the four month regression was my excuse for not sleep training P properly, as I just knew she'd be one of the ones that went totally to pot. It was the only decent bit of advice my HV ever gave me I think. Fingers crossed we all avoid it!

Just catching up. Jealous of the holidays!

Re sleep regression, I don't know if it's that or if it was the break in her routine when we went away last weekend, but Meredith hasn't been settling at bedtime as she usually does this week. She'll go down ok, but then wake up crying within an hour and the only thing I can settle her with is another feed. She usually goes down ok after that, though, and wakes once or twice in the night for a feed. She settles fine after feeding.
So if that's our sleep regression (PLEASE!!!) I'll take it :o

altered, good luck with the move!

book, that's amazing. Fingers crossed it continues for you. A few nights like that and you'll feel like a new woman!

We're going to MIL's this morning, and then later on I'm going to try expressing for the first time. Oh, the excitement.

It's DD1's birthday today. She's 13. Scary!

I'm dreading the 4 month sleep regression, leah's 3.5 months and has only just started regularly sleeping for 2 or more hours. Last night she did one lot of 2.5 and the night before one lot of 3. She had started getting a bit fussier during the day and sometimes pulls off the boob every 10-20 seconds!

I'm also very jealous of those on holiday! Hope you have a great time, and everyone stick at home had a great weekend too! DH is working on Monday, a 24 hour duty. He'll be away Monday morning until Tuesday evening. Last time he was away I went to Devon, but can't really do that for one night! So it'll be mine and baby's first night alone in this house.

*stuck at home, not stick!

Happy birthday teenageToby!
Hope the teenage years aren't too challenging!

Haven't been on here much as trying to avoid using my phone so much at night and have become a bit obsessed with Pinterest.

Something's happened here with Lara's sleep too. She used to wake 2 or 3 times a night anyway so this is not good! She is sooo difficult to settle and keeps clawing at her face, pulling out the dummy, then crying for it. It can take 90 mins for her to get to sleep for 30 mins Max. Having her in the sling helps but then she can rub her face against me until the dummy falls out and then the crying starts again.
So frustrating. We'd stopped swaddling her but perhaps we need to start again?

book hope the improved sleep continues for you. You've had it so tough.

million why are men so infuriating?!hope breakfast went down ok and you are now having fun.

pidgy all naps here today have only been 30 minutes as well. We've also got the face scratching - she looks like she's been attacked by Wolverine! She isn't so bad first thing, but the fussing and pulling off during afternoon feeds is so wearing for both of us. I think the scratching and face hitting might be teething related, as she's gnawing everything in sight and drooling like a champion too.

Yy to the pulling off the boob/face scratching/tiny naps.

Thanks, pidgy :)
DS will be 15 this year and his teenage years have been a breeze so far. DD1 is an entirely different kettle of fish!