January 2014 - hoping for more sleep

[beccajoh]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1952352-Jan-2014-And-lo-there-appeared-a-star-Our-babies-start-arriving

What's the deal with threads being closed? Is there a post limit?

I am soooooo tired today. Archie has been really unsettled the last few nights from about 4am onwards. Sometimes he's hungry, sometimes he wants to play, sometimes he wants his dummy. The last two nights he's ended up in with us as it's easier to replug the dummy, pat etc.
YAWN.

[enormouse]

Oh God yes, please soon!

I think I fed Cal every half hour from about 3/4am onwards. Dp has come home from work and taken both boys out again so I can rest with a cup of tea. book, felix, Toby, everyone else going through this.- moral support, hugs and a stiff drink for you. We're going away in july minus boys and I am counting down the hours.

felix it sounds like a great idea. What sort of clothes were you thinking?
You must be very talented. I'd be interested in buying something for the DSes.

I had started making a dr who mobile for the boys but I stopped when they began trying to kill me. I currently just have 2 felt daleks.

[FelixFelix]

Enormouse we have a night away in Manchester to go to a gig in July and I CANT FUCKING WAIT. Although I'll probably miss Sylvie so much when the time actually comes felt daleks sound ace!

Toby I've never made a quilt but I'd love to give it a go. I thought I might as well put my skills to use.

I've got a simple dress and romper pattern to try at first and if they come out nice, I'll make a load in different sizes and fabrics and see if they sell. I can also print various fabrics etc. so may do some leggings in cool patterns as they will be easy to make. I'm kind of excited but terrified at the same time I did a bit of research on Facebook and found a couple of people who are doing the same. One person made absolutely awful stuff which wasn't very well made and was selling dresses for £20+ and doing very well

[TarkaTheOtter]

felix I love printed stuff - especially prints that aren't the obvious gendered stuff (kittens or cars/tractors etc). You might be able to get some support/training to help you get set up if you look around.

[BookTart]

You'd have another customer here felix. I've been buying vintage-style rompers/tops and frilly knickers for the summer and paying ridiculous money for them!

The weaning workshop was odd. We were told that 6 months is when we should have started weaning by, and if we wait too long we'll have missed our window of opportunity. There was loads of other weird stuff, like telling us not to bother sterilising anything other than bottles for milk. Frankly, I'm not sure whether to take any notice or not. I'm inclined not to listen to advice from someone that says "kwinola" instead of quinoa even if my husband does the same

Having hardly slept, Percy has refused all naps today (politely ) I'm so desperate that I just dragged her into town and back in the pram with DH. We were out for two hours, and she finally fell asleep 5 minutes from home on the way back. Poor thing must be exhausted. I'm dreading tomorrow when DH will be back at work. The house is utterly filthy, just when I'd got on top of it all and had a little routine. I'm feeling a bit miserable today to be honest. I wish I could get hammered, but this one sad, lonely Jack Daniels will have to do

Solidarity/gin/chocolate to everyone else currently with a tiny bastard!

[TarkaTheOtter]

I'd be giggling at the quinoa pronunciation too but they are right about not needing to sterilise stuff and not delaying too much beyond 6 months - that's the standard advice ime.

[TarkaTheOtter]

Ps I hate this stage the worst for sleep exhaustion. It's so much psychologically harder than when they are newborn and you expect no sleep.

[beccajoh]

Window of opportunity? Where's a WTF smilie when you need one (Aimed at the weaning person not you!)

[TobyLerone]

I don't think I'd sterilise anything other than milk-related items either. But I laughed at kwinola, especially after our conversation yesterday :o

[TobyLerone]

And yy tarka. It's quite a nasty shock to the system when the tiny bastards seemed to have been getting the point of sleeping.

[BookTart]

Yeah toby, I had to pretend I was laughing at Percy's adorable screaming antics.

The sterilising thing is the NHS advice I think. There's no way I'm faffing about doing it

[enormouse]

Kwinola? I have to say I'd have found that funny too.

Wish weaning workshop woman (www?) Would have had a word with DS1 about the 6 month window. He was closer to 7/8 months when I started him off (9-10 when he really took off). Clearly hasn't affected him as he's a human dustbin now.

Cal has come back from gps extremely happy and LOUD. He keeps making noises like a tiny dinosaur -raaar raaar raaaaaaaar. DS1 also happy as he managed to make it down to gps without being thwarted by mean mummy.

[beccajoh]

My daughter wasn't interested either. She ate bits and bobs from about 9 months but only showed actual enthusiasm after 14 months. I think if I let her have her way she'd still exist on milk alone, little monkey!

What does yy mean? Can't figure it out!

[BookTart]

Yes yes I think becca

Weaning woman also took me to one side to advise that I start with baby rice now (20 weeks) as Percy fed three times during a hour and a half workshop. It will help me fill her up and space out her feeds apparently. Is that true? She also told me that I'd made a terrible mistake feeding P to sleep, as shed done the same with her first who had ensued to settle without breastfeeding until 18 months

[BandontheFun]

Oh leggings in cool patterns sounds awesome Felix can't find patterned leggings anywhere. All block colours and a bit boring! Got h a denim shirt from gap and was wanting cool little leggings to go with it, so u have a customer here.

I keep waking up at night, think it's because I have been way too warm. H on the other hand has been sleeping ok, although chances are when I start sleeping better the sleep regression will kick in.

Brushed H's teeth for the first time today, probably shouldn't have googled it before hand started freaking out that she was swallowing too much toothpaste. Tried to teach her how to spit, I must have looked demented, she was just laughing....that's is one situation I never thought I would be in.

[TobyLerone]

What a load of balls, book! Milk is far more calorific than the tiny amounts of solid food Percy would take in. Also, there is quite a big swing in opinions against ever giving baby rice now. I read a good article on it recently. I'll try to find it.

[TobyLerone]

www.analyticalarmadillo.co.uk/2011/12/nine-good-reasons-not-to-use-baby-rice.html?m=1

[BookTart]

I suspected she was talking bollocks toby. I'm just desperate! I was a bit baffled about white rice as I know they can't have rice milk as a dairy alternative due to the arsenic levels, so that article makes total sense, thanks.

[MerryPops]

We have a foot banger here too! Also a squawking mini dinosaur like enormouse

Felix great idea, why not? As a new mum of a boy that looks enviously at the range of quirky clothing for girls compared to boys I'd be interested to see your ideas!

Saw mil today and she was like when I said I hadn't started on solids yet, Xander is 17.5 weeks grrr. She is coeliac and dh has asthma and pet allergies so I said it's supposed to be better if you wait a bit (I think). Hopefully that should keep her quiet for a bit. She weaned dh at 12 weeks and can't believe I'm taking so lomg. Sigh.

Our sleep is ok here atm, I am praying we don't go through what some of you are, I don't know how we'd cope!

[FelixFelix]

Thanks for the positive messages!

I've just realised I bought two things reduced from asda to put away for birthday/Christmas and they are both ages 3+ whoops!

[Swannykazoo]

Analytical armadillo is great isn't it? I'm sure that's where the sensible advice about moderate alcohol and breastfeeding came from - dispelling the pump & dump nonsense -thanks Toby as I think you'd posted it antenatal/early days
Little puggle is in such a grump - any loudish noise, even other babies squeaking is making him cry. Hysteria at an ambulance going past, the shower going on etec etc. If teeth don't arrive soon I'm paying off the tooth fairy...
On the plus side, sleep seems to be slightly improving (9-4am anyway. Stupid 4am sunrise)

[TobyLerone]

I basically just post things which benefit me :o

[enormouse]

I remember the breast feeding and alcohol article. It helped me have my first (guilt free) scotch in about a year. Thanks Toby

I think I ended up throwing out a nearly full box of baby rice after 2 years. It just seemed to be something that just filled the baby up without actually imparting much in the way of calories/nutrients etc. (As tobys link suggests)

Poor baby puggle. Have you tried white noise? Might drown out all the other noises.

merry I agree about boys clothing. Definitely harder to find something quirky for boys. It took me ages to find nice pyjamas for DS1 as he's growing out of toddler stuff into little boys. I just wanted ones without angry birds or Ben 10 on them.
I ended up buying second hand their nibs and hatley ones on ebay.

[FizzypopFireball]

Ooh, nearly at the end of this thread!

Book, my HV (who is very lovely and very up-to-date on research) said it was best to start weaning with fruit and veg as it was kinder to tummys. Apparently the pushing of baby rice as First Tastes is very much a marketing ploy by the manufacturers. I was told it's much healthier (and cheaper) to first wean baby on fruit and veg. She even went as far to say start with veg so they don't just prefer sweet food.

I am another one with a tiny bastard. Henry is taking ages to get to sleep (bedtime varies depending on how tired he is), and then wakens frequently. I'm shattered. DH is home at the moment, but as someone said, there's not much they can do during the night. I'm also finding that because Henry associates food with sleep and he doesn't want to sleep during the day, he is now refusing to eat too. I am a bit worried about this (even though he's a gigantababy). I have no idea how to break the cycle. He is also teething. He has his bottom two through, and the top ones are coming now as well...

Good luck tonight, everyone!

[Mythreeknights]

Toby, thanks for posting that article about baby rice...I had absolutely no idea about any of that! Is that why the NHS is now insisting on baby led weaning from six months? To avoid poisoning our baby's from these processed and temptingly easy foods.

Well, Lucy is nearly 20 weeks and shows no sign of being interested in food. She can't sit up either, so I will stick to milk for now.

Thanks for feedback about periods....here's another question...is anyone undergoing serious hair loss at the moment? Each time I shower for the last three weeks I have lost clumps of hair. It happened with my other two too but not to this extent. Is there a supplement I can take which won't be harmful to baby? (Still bf once a day)

[FelixFelix]

Mythree my hair loss is horrendous. It's been like this for months now when I wash my hair in the bath, an alarming amount comes out in my hand. I'm forever pulling hairs off of Sylvie's clothes and out of her hands. No idea if there's anything we can take to help. My mum warned me about it when I was pregnant and said it settles down eventually.