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November 2012 - Any tips for surviving the 18-month sleep regression?

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StuntNun · 08/04/2014 15:57

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/2035882-November-2012-Are-the-LOs-old-enough-for-Mothers-Day-yet

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ValiumQueen · 16/04/2014 07:45

Oh, and when the little cherub did sleep, he was so very quiet that when I stirred I thought he had died. Just for a moment, but horrible horrible horrible. He had corried down right into my back and when I moved he just fell forward onto the mattress and was completely still. But he is fine, whacking his sisters currently. Little git.

horseylady · 16/04/2014 07:56

Hello quiche :)

PetiteRaleuse · 16/04/2014 08:02

vq those moments are terrifying.

Hello horsey :) how are you?

horseylady · 16/04/2014 08:27

Good thanks. Missing you guys so thought I'd say hello!

PurplePidjin · 16/04/2014 09:00

kyz Thanks

r was awake 2:15-3 after a coughing fit woke him. but i try to avoid screens at night so only with you in spirit Sad

BigPigLittlePig · 16/04/2014 09:20

Oh kyz that's heartbreaking. So sorry sweetie. Have some Cake since you are already overwhelmed by flowers.

Sorry for bad nights. Was ok-ish here, she woke at 5.30 (probably when calpol had well and truly worn off) and struggled to settle in bed with me. Currently charming Nana whilst poor Gramps reluctantly goes to work.

Hia horsey. How is the horse? You had a new one a while back I think?

Wandathewindfairy · 16/04/2014 10:15

Morning all, home from my trip to see the girls. Had a great time. But for one thing.

Ex H kept on texting me getting me to get the girls to phone him, like three times a day it was driving me mad. Anyway there was a small incident where Dd2 wandered off. Now Dd2 does this. She has always done it she just floats around In A dream. It wasn't too major and it was ok, but as always with anything out of ordinary I called their dad to let him know because I am always up front about anything. It was ok when I spoke to him and he said he had had to speak to her last week about it. Anyway the next day he sent me a text saying he had been thinking about it and he was furious.

I just snapped. He speaks to me like shit and sends me and my dad abusive emails which I ignore and bin and have told my dad to do the same, because I want to keep the peace for the girls sake.

I phoned him and hit the roof and told him no one speaks to me in the disgusting way he does and I don't know why I let him bully and walk over me.

That is the first time ever.

Then I had to hang up because the dentist called them in.

Then later I spoke to him to say the girls were ok when I had left them and he was quite polite. And when my dad and stepmum delivered the girls back he said hello to my stepmum which he never does he blanks her because he really hates her.

The other development is that my dad has started to see what he was like in my marriage and has admitted that he must have been really controlling towards me. And he blames himself that I married him because I married him because it was what I was "meant to do" ie all the normal stuff that you do growing up in a middle class suburb school, sixth form, uni, marry a nice public school boy. It wasn't his fault, I wasn't confident enough to stay single and wait for the right person because all my friends were getting married etc.

Anyway, my dad suddenly understanding has meant a lot to me.

PetiteRaleuse · 16/04/2014 10:21

wanda I am glad you had a good time with the girls. Well done for standing up to your XH. I know you are non-confrontational so it must have taken some balls. I hope you can proceed with more confidence as far as he is concerned.

And it's great that your dad has opened up to you and showed understanding.

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PurplePidjin · 16/04/2014 11:59

Wanda well done for finding your balls getting the result you wanted Thanks

YellowWellies · 16/04/2014 12:03

Wanda whoop whoop they do say you just have to stand up to bullies - well done for putting him in his place with a ROAR! Smile

Wandathewindfairy · 16/04/2014 12:57

< twirls balls nonchalantly >

I did say to my dad if I had been an mner at the time I left the girls most defo would have been with me because of all the advice and support one gets.

Passmethecrisps · 16/04/2014 13:20

I am very impressed wanda!

StuntNun · 16/04/2014 13:22

Good one Wanda the first step in taking the power back

Please don't worry about how many words your LOs have Pennie and any others that are stressing. Normal speech development is hugely variable as you can see from the quiche babies going from 0 to 75+ words despite being similar ages. Remember there is a huge amount of development between 2 and 2.5 as your baby changes from a toddler into a child. By 2 they should be able to string a couple of words together, by 2.5 you will be having conversations with them. My DS1 had no words at 18 months but once he started talking his speech developed really quickly. DS2 was similarly late to talk so I expect J is following the same pattern as his big brothers. On the other hand DS1 walked at 15 months, DS2 at nine months and J at a year so they were pretty different there.

How are you feeling now VQ? Any chance you could get a nap or at least a bit of quiet time to yourself?

No 5:30 screaming this morning but J may have been so surprised to see Grandma that he made less of a fuss than he does for his daddy. She chucked a bottle of Koko down his neck and he went back to sleep for another hour. I'm going to try the Neocate tonight, should I give him half Neocate half Koko first to get him used to the taste? Thanks for the omeperazole offer VQ I have some to try at the weekend. He hasn't had it before, only ranitidine but we were never convinced that the ranitidine was doing anything for him.

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PurplePidjin · 16/04/2014 13:43

3 hour nap = two half-finished baby dragon costumes for the Castles and Knights 5th birthday party of one of R's friends' big bro :o he wanted Princesses but Mum thought his buddies might laugh. He'll be wearing a frock though apparently

R's little buddy is a non-sleeper so I offered to make a spare dragon when I did R's. £5 for a metre of green fleece and I've got 2 tabards with tails, just need to make and stuff a couple of spikes for the back of each one and maybe headbands with ears on?

He's mumping but has turned Ewan back on and doesn't sound wakeful. So I'm ignoring him and pondering starting on those spikes. A living room floor with pins and scissors is not somewhere I want R to be so it's forcing me to be a tidy sewer for once!

I have also poisoned all the ants, swept and mopped the hall and kitchen floors, swept the living room, tidied up some random crap that was littering the surfaces etc blah blah. I think I've earned an afternoon in the park!

Enough rambling. I'm hungry which means he probably is too. Even though there's not a lot o movement going on. Maybe a few rounds of crochet...

ChasingDaisy · 16/04/2014 14:14

That's excellent Wanda Grin Hopefully he'll start to think twice before trying to treat you like shit going forwards. Great to have that understanding from your dad too.

Pidj, I was also awake between 2-3 with O. Not sure what was wrong but a combo of cuddles, teething gel, milk and Calpol finally got him back to sleep.

ValiumQueen · 16/04/2014 15:04

Woo Hoo Wanda Grin

I went back to bed after nursery run and slept until 2pm. Still feel like crap though Hmm

Zamboni · 16/04/2014 15:10

Well done Wanda. Grin

PP you have been busy!

Good luck stunt and I totally agree with what you said. S has v few words and those he does have aren't well formed. He's fine and I'm totally unconcerned.

DH is ok and I got the DC into nursery for an extra day this week so I am sure DH will play Xbox in his pants all day make good use if the rest opportunity. In other Zamboni household news - DD, of the track suit bottoms and dinosaur t-shirt attire only, is wearing a DRESS today. Shock By choice Shock with trainers and a hoody and what she describes as messy hair

ValiumQueen · 16/04/2014 16:01

That made me laugh Zamboni Grin DD1 reached 3 and became extremely girly, refusing trousers of all descriptions, everything pink etc, DD2 has refused to wear anything but trousers pretty much since she could walk.

horseylady · 16/04/2014 16:22

New horse is fab thanks pig. A real gentleman!

Wandathewindfairy · 16/04/2014 17:00

Grin zamboni

dd1 would wear whatever you put out for her and doesn't like clothes shopping dd2 v girly loves shopping and twirling and makeup!

PurplePidjin · 16/04/2014 17:51

:o zamboni For our wedding, I'm going to say to all the parents that their dc can be bridesmaids/pageboys and please could they buy them a new outfit that they will wear again instead of a wedding present (I don't care about matchy matchy but like the idea of a few little people walking me up the aisle) I secretly hope I get a girl in a suit and a boy in a princess outfit :o

Hiya horsey sorry, forgot that earlier Blush

Been to the market and the park this afternoon. R will be trying crab risotto for tea on Friday courtesy of the nice fishmonger, and I got 2 punnets of strawberries and eleventy bajillion bananas for £2 Hmm

Lily311 · 16/04/2014 18:29

Well done wanda, you are awesome.
Hello horsey

Little girl is asleep, she is a bit better than yesterday. It's raining now, and the winds are stong, I'm worried about my new flower pots on the balcony.

YellowWellies · 16/04/2014 19:56

well we've been here a year but having used J's 2 nursery days this week to sort the house out - we have a lovely house ready for our visitors tomorrow. I've hung pictures, unpacked boxes, cut in paintwork, set up two guest rooms, made four beds, arranged flowers, chucked out so much junk, tidied to within an inch of my life and shoved everything else in cupboards or under beds I love valance sheets!!!!

And I've walked 8 miles today doing all that plus shopping, dog walking and running errands. Am knackered. I've just got to clean the fish tank and have a shower but I don't seem to be able to get off the sofa..... Bless him DH was so impressed he's volunteered to hang the curtains and to fold and sort Jonas' outgrown clothes into a vacuum bag tonight. Something I've been putting off for ages. I realise how much I love this house again! Plus we've gained an office / bedroom and another bedroom which were previously just dumping grounds. Early nesting appears to have struck again....

13 week scan / nuchal fold test tomo! Smile

Passmethecrisps · 16/04/2014 19:58

Hia horsey!! Missed yooooooo!

Much as I love naps vq I sometimes wonder if they can make things worse. I hope hope hope you get a good night tonight.

I think dd sounds like she has an excellent sense of style zamboni! I will be very interested to see how p turns out. I wear dresses a lot as does she but I wouldn't describe myself as girly. However, I wear makeup and jewellery every day so maybe I am. She was wearing a jumper and skinny jeans the other day and I was bowled over by how grown up she looked. I have been very lucky to be passed down a number of lovely dresses for her so I figure she should wear them while she seems not to care too much.

kyz I hope you are ok this evening. I was very sorry to read about our wee quiche ratty.

I have sore eyeballs. Contact lenses on tired and dehydrated eyes I think. I am currently sitting with my arms resting on a lever arch folder of marking which needs done but I cannot bring myself to open the thing.