November 2012 - Walking or not walking, talking or not talking, any other skillz?

[StuntNun]

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We have quite a range of ages and they each develop at their own rates... so what can your toddler do?

lily that was really sweet of you.

Pancakes - I've never made one in my life so we won't be having any tonight.

FIL's op was last night, I got the days wrong. I haven't spoken to DP today yet so don't know how it went. He could have had waited 14 months and had the op in a state run hospital which is covered by his health insurance but that's a ridiculous wait and who knows what could happen between now and then so the money we sent allowed him to have it immediately in a private hospital.

My dad went for a job interview yesterday. Fingers crossed he gets it because my parents are really struggling with only one wage coming in but if he does then I need to think about what to do with childcare for C on a friday. My nana would be happy to have him but with the family problems we had last year with my cousin accusing my dad of all sorts, I'm not sure I would feel comfortable leaving C there knowing they could go round at any time. They live within walking distance of my nana's house and I have no idea what levels they would stoop to to get back at us.

So I'm frantically looking around for nurseries at the moment. What kind of questions should I be asking if I go to visit any?

Apple, I'm also starting to look at nurseries, so would be interested in that too.

And me. I need to book the place in 3 weeks time for September. The good news is that they must take O as a half orphan you are top priority. I can choose from 3.

I'm already sorting out LO's hours for nursery from next September. I'm cutting her down to 8 hours a day four days a week to fit in with DD1's school hours next door. Looks like I have got conjunctivitis too :(

We're both very gloopy.

I love that S loves her books, but dear me, if I have to read Dear Zoo one more time today, I'm going to crack up. It's quite cute though how she comes over with the book and pats my lap to sit on it for a story.

ridiculously over tired baby has face planted twice and split his lip bath is being run, bets on how early he's asleep?

it's ok, he's happy playing with my hair brush in the bath. 5:15 is our earliest so far and I'd rather not beat that record

He went down at 5:20, is still emitting the occasional moan but nearly gone :)

He sleeps an amazing amount pidj

LO goes down just before 8 most nights and sleeps til7/7.30 and then she has a nap of an hour to 90 minutes during the day.

I am very lucky with O's sleep. I tend to pop him down awake in his cot at 6ish and he then self settles at some point before 6.30. He is currently singing away to himself whilst he drops off He then wakes anytime between 5.30-6.30, although it was 4.30 this morning, when I give him his morning bottle of milk, and he then goes back off until 8-8.30 ish. Then he is ready for breakfast when he wakes up. He tends to nap for about 1hr 20 during the day. I know I am tremendously lucky and I certainly don't take it for granted.

S is usually in her cot for about 6:15 it can then take her any time from 10 to 40 mins to go to sleep, I think it's normally about 15 mins. She has a nap for about an hour and a half in the day aswell. She didn't nap yesterday though and was falling asleep while eating her dinner, so yesterday we skipped the bath and she was in bed asleep for 5:30.

Haha fruit I have that with Hairy Maclary. We have the whole set of books but wants to hear the same one four times in a row.

If I suggest another it gets pushed away. Once I pick up the right one there's a satisfied, 'ha' and a smile.

Gosh if C was in bed at 5 he would be awake and wanting to play at 3am. He doesn't need a lot of sleep, never has done. He won't sleep more than 10 hours straight no matter what time he goes down so I try to keep him up until at least 8.

Apple we're the same here! The babies going off to sleep at 5pm makes me ! DH would never see J if he went to bed that early and gawd I'd see his cheery little chops far too early if he did. Bedtime here starts with 7pm bath, then stories, boob and in bed by 8-8.30. He sleeps 11-12 hours usually. But has started waking before 7 this last fortnight which I think is a vague reaction to dairy. Sleep disturbances and eczema are the mildest forms of food reaction. It's not bad enough (yet) for me to embargo my weekly dairy binge but the effect is obvious. I wonder if any of the extreme sleep avoiders have kept food diaries? I'm sure most have xx

Having said that he has just fallen asleep on my lap listening to music. I might wake him up, give him a bath and put him down in an hour.

YW yeh I don't get in from work until 6 and DP at 8 so we would literally never see him if he went to bed too early. The late bed times suit me because I get to see him for a while when I come in. I look forward to it all day.

3more days

I was wondering about that YW, whether J's recent extreme sleep issues (waking screaming 5-15 times a night) could be food related. I tried to get a GP appointment for him today but they can't see him until the 19th. Then I suppose it will be a six month wait to see the allergy specialist. There's really no point. He does drink milk which could cause a problem but I have no idea how to tell as his baseline sleep isn't that good so it could be anything he eats regularly such as dairy, oranges or gluten.

Stunt its such a f*cker trying to determine food ishoos. You have my utter sympathies - it really messes with my head wondering what is triggering his reflux. It's rarely as simple as 'had x food = y reaction'. At this age for J at least it is sooooo dose dependent. He can handle me having so much dairy but any more, or if my troughing is too close together (he can't handle me having it two days in a row for example), or if he has any other underlying stuff like teething going on then its all merry hell . I'd sign up for an appointment with the allergy specialist just in case - hopefully by the time it comes round he'll have outgrown this shit.

Stunt our life was made easier by nursery writing down each day what F has to eat (something they do anyway). It soon became apparent that egg was the problem. Oranges definitely made her reflux worse. Perhaps you could try eliminating a food per week to see if it makes a difference, eg. milk one week, wheat the next. Fs reactions last 5 days so that would work for us. I hope you can get something sorted, as Js sleep is so poor lately.

Sleep. F is in bed at 6.45 and on a fab night, sleeps 12hrs. Maybe 12.5 if we're lucky. I don't see her as much as I would like, but we have to get up by 7 in the morning 5 days a week, so she has to go to bed then, else she'd be shattered.

Erm. I did read but can't remember

F has her jabs tomorrow, if I can get out of work early. She has been too ill on the other 4 dates we have had, but need to get them done - the surgery have started sending vaccination leaflets to us now . I was twitchy about the egg allergy with the mmr, but apparently you can give the mmr even when there is an anaphylactic reaction. Am a little stressy about the whole thing though

Good luck team pig xxx

I got my 12 week scan date thru today. It's on DH and my fifth anniversary! Odd question but are we ok to take J - there's not really anyone close by who could have him

I would have thought so yw - dh can hold and entertain if needs be. At our hospital they advised against bringing other children unless absolutely necessary - but sounds as though it is necessary?

Yw we asked about raking H. It was ok at our hospital but disclaimer sonographer needs to concentrate so children need to be quiet.

Yw can I ask, how does feeding Lo work with being preg? I thought you were not meant to? Why are you not meant to? My nan said she did with her 3 kids. Just curious.

R's early bedtime suits me because I leave for work around 6, although that's not the reason I put him down then - he's crying and pointing at his nappy/pyjamas/bedroom by then! He still wakes at night for a nappy change. On a good night, it'll be around 12 hours after he goes down and he'll go back to sleep till gone 8. On a bad night, he needs changing at midnight and 4ish then up at 6:30. He does really strong teething wees and still occasionally poos. Tonight he woke at 8:30, my mum got him up till I got home so he's on his second night nappy. If I'm lucky that'll be it for 12 hours. But I doubt it as he's cutting another eye tooth and has a molar still to come too. Please keep your fingers crossed for me, I'm giving blood tomorrow afternoon so need at least a bit of rest!

yw here I think siblings were allowed at the 12 wk scan but not at the 20 wk one as the sonogropher needs complete concentration to take the measurements etc.

It was the same for us elizaok for 12 week if they are quiet, took loads of snacks etc, but not at 20 week, though they made the 20 week there and then after the 12 week so I could discuss the day with them to. E a nursery day for DS1.

O goes to bed at 7 and wakes anytime between 6 and 7:15 ish. Today he was whingebagging at 6 but I left him while I got dressed. I was actually going to ask........

When your baby wakes In The morning and gets to the just moaning and making a noise point, do you go straight to them or do you leave them for a bit? I wondered with DS1 if because I always jumped to it the minute there was a noise it encouraged him to do it. So I am trying to leave O for 20 mins at the mo.

Anyway. What do you do?