November 2012 - Walking or not walking, talking or not talking, any other skillz?

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/2000561-November-2012-The-exciting-all-new-all-singing-all-dancing-fred

We have quite a range of ages and they each develop at their own rates... so what can your toddler do?

BigPig J had no problems at all with his MMR, not even post-immunisation fever, despite his egg intolerance. Having had measles myself as a child I definitely regard the MMR as the lesser of two evils. I could have had the measles vaccine as a baby as it had just come in but the doctor decided not to chance it as I had had an egg allergy as a baby. Obviously they tried to make the best decision for my wellbeing but ultimately they got it wrong, the vaccine would have been safe for me and I'm the one that has to live with the hearing loss.

Sophia I leave him often for 10/15 to chat to himself!

I am in stunts team. It will be fine bp and any ill effects would be short lived.

I'm also of the opinion that mmr is better than the illness despite them causing LO's eczema to flare up massively. Her skin still isn't quite right but nevermind.

Planning a trip home over Easter. Fingers crossed DH can get the time off. We were going to go in July but with his new jobstarting in May we're not sure he can get time off over summer.

Soph if its happy chat I leave him but if he sounds upset I get him.

GT for lots of women BF in pregnancy is fine but it can cause the uterus to contract so isn't recommended if there's a family history of prem delivery.

Yes I leave LO until her happy singing becomes upset yells. Or i go in if she starts shouting maman.

I'll leave her for 30 min or so. She never cries but whines and sings than goes quiet. She usually wakes at 6 but I get her out of cot after 6.30.

Went to the market this am, got some daffodils. Love the smell!

He is. It exactly happy chatting, but definitely not crying, he is whining "uuuuhhhhh uuuuhhhhhh uhhhhhhh uhhhhhh" so my foot is going down!

Lovely lily , that must have been early. Can you walk there? I treated myself to some pink and white tulips last week (DH doesn't do buying me flowers so I have to treat myself) and then SIL bought me some beautiful pink roses on Sat as I had her over for a curry night so I added them in I stead of staring a new. Are and they have brought me the joys of spring all week.

Right, wwyd. Bought something off ebay middle of January. Item didn't arrive so last week I opened a case. They refunded me this am. Postman just brought the item. Meanwhile I ordered the same from different seller, too late to cancel transaction. Do I contact seller and send the money back or do I keep quiet. Want to do the right thing, item is worth £10.

Soph, I usually leave O for 30mins ish. Unless he is actually crying or saying mumum. He is usually just chatting to his toys or to the cat that wails outside his window all night I want flowers now. May go and get some today.

I love flowers but hate throwing them out as much as I hate watching them droop and die.

r gets left till he's upset too. i like to snuggle!

my narcissi are out west facing terrace means i get things early. and it's fab for strawberries and raspberries, hope my plants haven't drowned in all the rain

Thanks all for the advice on kids being present at scans. Thankfully I have realised that the scan is a Wednesday which is great as that means the bear is in nursery. Phew.

Keeping quiet, still and well behaved is not his forte. I keep remembering back to my time in Hong Kong where toddlers behave immaculately, even on the busy MTR during rush hour they never seemed to kick off and wonder if he could benefit from a cultural exchange for a month or so!!! Pennie am I being overtly nostalgic or is it true that the Cantonese kids in Hong Kong just seem to be so well behaved (I guess because of the cultural emphasis on obedience and discipline)? Is that quite a pressure to be around if you have a more 'normal' willful toddler?

Jonas would appear like some kind of rampaging Visigoth in comparison he really would . I blame my Dad's Genghis Khan genes (he hails from the Polish / Ukraine border and the entire family over there reckons he's a throwback to the Mongolian hordes who got as far as Eastern Europe). Mindst my entire paternal family has a tradition of rebelliousness and generally being contrary wee fecks.

So yeah. I'm glad he's not coming to the scan!

The majority of kids I see in this country are happy, content and well-behaved YW maybe we just notice our own more? When I was working I hardly saw a child because I didn't go to the park, went to the supermarket in the evenings etc. Now I'm out and about during the day I see loads more and because I have R I notice them more too - like when I was pregnant every other woman I saw seemed to be upduffed too and played the is she waddling more than me game

Pidj I'm not saying British kids are unruly - but the contrast with kids in Hong Kong was really marked. I was very very conscious (particularly on public transport which always seems to focus hissy fits and amplify toddler noise!) that I never saw the toddlers acting up. Whereas in the UK on most train or bus journeys where you are sharing the vehicle with children at least one of them will squawk at some point - no matter how good or happy. The obedience and polite respect for others around them in HK toddlers is years 'ahead' of that seen in UK kids. I found it really marked. And I honestly don't come from a family of ASBOs!

Fuck, fuck, fuck, I finished dexter. Now what??? I can't believe it's over. wail

Lily have you watched the original Danish version of the Killing? It remains the best thing I have ever watched on the telly. We're just finishing series one of Dexter (I'm not captivated I have to say... it's enjoyable but hasn't got me gripped by any means), if we can't be arsed with the other series then I think we're going to move onto House of Cards and Breaking Bad.

Ahhh well. A letter from work saying they won't facilitate homeworking. Apart from feeling a bit shafted, today I am feeling a bit scare, and a bit shit on. But onwards. The stuff some of you lot have been through lately I am sure I can manage battling the maintenance issue and finding something serene and part time.

Oh no, but you know what? It's their loss. You are awesome sophia.

Where is det?

What Lily said. I bet you'll have no trouble finding something part time locally. And we're all behind you with the maintenance issue x

Thanks, means a lot to know I have a whole bunch of awesome intelligent women holding my hand.

-twirls around cause sophia called me awesome intelligent-. Well, chasing too but that's fine! I can share.

Soph you seem to have so many talents and interests and to be a genuinely intelligent, capable and interesting lady. I think this could be an opportunity for a change in direction for you - I never got the impression that your previous career was entirely in line with your personality and real passions (excuse me if I am wildly wrong on this!!). And well, as the others say, it is their loss. They have undervalued and overlooked you in the past (how bloody common a trend does that seem to be amongst the working female population if this thread is anything to go by!!!!!!) so I think it's time to go somewhere that recognises what a cracker you are. Good luck with the change. It is super scary - I had to look for a similar change when we moved to the windy rock and actually my move to freelancing has been the best thing ever for me professionally. Especially as I have a lot more choice to work on interesting stuff. I am actually in the throes of ditching a well paid but soul destroying bit of freelance so that I can focus on stuff i really enjoy. When I get the bottle. Honest. It is still hard as I think as women we are brought up to be obedient people pleasers. If I have a daughter I am going to raise her to be Boudica and to raise merry hell!

Nodding along here to yw's posts.

There is definitely a cultural difference in the way kids behave in different countries. Anglo-Saxon cultures allow for more freedom of expression and creativity and this is reflected in both positive and negative aspects in the way their people behave.

And soph their loss is your gain. Time to reassess what you want to do with yourself. I wouldn't resign immediately though. I'd try and get them to make the first move somehow.