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SunnyL · 11/02/2014 08:06

Hi all - the old thread was about to run out so I started a new one.

Little Miss was up to mischief last night. Thankfully it's DHs day off today so he took her into bed with him while I slept in the spare room. She is just so excitable when she wakes up at night. It can can 90 minutes to scrape her off the ceiling.

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HungryHorace · 30/06/2014 22:10

DD had a 98th centile head.

My MW friend said that if they know their head won't fit / they'll get stuck, their instinct is to stay breech to protect themselves. Clearly DD was missing that vital piece of knowledge, hence needing the EMCS when she was wedged in!

I'm not convinced this one will turn now.

Mrs, I hope your DS gets used to your DH settling him soon. You need a break, however lovely DS is! :-)

hedgehogy · 01/07/2014 07:05

That is really really interesting! I hadn't heard that before. DD's head was 99th percentile on the chart.

The chances are that this one won't turn if they're already a good size.

HungryHorace · 01/07/2014 08:07

I hadn't til yesterday when I queried whether head down was instinctive or not (as in why the hell is my baby still breech?!).

I'm actually hoping for no turn now as I think that'd be painful given the size of baby! And it's not like it's necessary anyway. Plus, I prefer non-fanjo hiccups!

BeanCalledPickle · 01/07/2014 08:29

Polly's head was 3rd percentile. She gets this from her father who had to have a special cap made for him at graduation because his head was too small:-)

So, of those of you with just one when are you thinking of a second?

We have dusted off the fertility monitor and reckon we will get going soon. If it worked quickly then we'd have 22/23 month which isn't too bad, as in not too scary! Assuming it takes a while it will be more than two years which would be ideal.

Money scares me as does starting over again but I am 36 and DH is 44 so probably sensible to crack on.

hedgehogy · 01/07/2014 08:30

Haha!

My midwife didn't realise baby might be breech until the very end of my 38 check (after she'd already ready told me baby was head down!), when she did a final feel. Which was a massive shock. Even though I'd only ever felt kicks very low down - I thought they must be punches. I was very lucky she sent me for a scan to double check, I dread to think what would have happened otherwise!

hedgehogy · 01/07/2014 08:35

Bean, I'm ready now, my husband isn't quite ready yet though. I'd like another next year, so a 2 - 2 1/2 year age gap. I'm 34 so don't want to wait too long either.

HungryHorace · 01/07/2014 08:59

Age is why I cracked on as I'm 37, almost 38. We didn't want to wait and then find out it was too late.

So yes, we look mental, but we did this for good reason.

My MW thought head down yesterday initially, then when she looked for the heartbeat it was so high up that baby had to be breech! They're tricksy little people these unborn babies. :-)

DD gets her big head from DH!

hedgehogy · 01/07/2014 09:18

So does my DD!

I don't blame you, that's how I feel.

The heartbeat didn't give it away to my midwife despite the fact that my DH had to tell her where to find it a few times (as we used a Doppler at home and were used to finding it). Should have been a bit of a clue for her really.

HungryHorace · 01/07/2014 09:47

Yeah, just a tiny clue! :-)

I don't listen in now I can feel baby move. I've sent my Doppler to someone else as well!

I have a non napping baby now. She's like the bloody Duracell bunny at the moment!

Mrs81 · 01/07/2014 10:08

So I peered into Wonder Week book: it's another ww at the mo. Might explain some antics.

Another baby? We provisionally agreed to start trying next year sometime but there are some very practical things to be sorted first electrics, kitchen, bathroom, new car before we distract ourselves with more children. Plus more sleep please, just for a bit!

DS was 75th centile for head. That was quite enough thank you very much. Mind you, given all the tearing (sorry!) perhaps a daintier head would have been preferable Grin

SunnyL · 01/07/2014 11:29

I can't remember what size DD's head was. She was 75th for weight and 99th for length though so I doubt it was small. She had this massive Cephalhaematoma when she was born though - basically a massive build up of fluid under the scalp because she was stuck for so long. Back to back baby and 65 hour labour will apparently result in that. The midwife was so chuffed to see it as she'd only ever read about them. Grin

Anyway we're not planning to start trying again til next summer. We honestly can't afford 2 lots of nursery fees and because I get so little maternity pay I need some time to save up. So we're trying to time it so we start to get some of the free nursery hours when Lil turns 3 for when I go back to work after mat leave.

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Sunbeam18 · 01/07/2014 18:14

I'm sticking at one baby! I'm 41 almost 42 so feel I'm bit old for any more. I know it's possible but I don't think I want to take the risk.

BeanCalledPickle · 02/07/2014 07:08

It's difficult isn't it. You've no idea how long it will take. I naively think it took six months last time so maybe that again? Wouldn't want to wait another year then have it take a year. Who knows what will happen!

Money is a big issue here as well. Have to hope that the free hours thing stays and they introduce the thing where they pay 20pc off fees up to 10k per child which would make it easier. Plus our nursery gives you 20pc off second child.

On the nursery thing how long does it take to break them in?! She still won't sleep much there and comes home raging!

hedgehogy · 02/07/2014 07:33

It is difficult for that reason, Bean. Last time I told DH that it could take a year (so we started trying earlier) but it only took a couple of months.

I'm on a five year career break (I can possibly have six years) so luckily don't have to worry about nursery fees now. My manager even mentioned that I could come back for just a couple of months to qualify for a second lot of maternity pay but that's just not possible for us. We should be ok as we still have everything from DD so we'll mainly just need extra nappies for the first six months.

SunnyL · 02/07/2014 07:58

Ha - I told DH it would take at least 6 months so we'd have time to save but it took 2 weeks. Oopsie!

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HungryHorace · 02/07/2014 08:28

I took 5 months first time and 3 months this time (quickies during nap time were the way forwards!).

DD won't go to nursery until she gets free hours, same with this one, as DH does the day care.

In other news, baby turned last night. Made a meal of it. It hurt. :-(

hedgehogy · 02/07/2014 09:27

Ha, I'm glad I'm not the only one who told their DH that, Sunny! Oops! We also had plans to save for much longer! It worked out fine though.

Oh wow, Hungry! How long did it take?

HungryHorace · 02/07/2014 09:55

About 10-15 minutes. It really, really hurt! :-/ I'd just got into bed so had to wait before I could sleep.

Hope (s)he doesn't think rotating is a good idea from now on. :-/

hedgehogy · 02/07/2014 11:28

Ouch. Very considerate of baby to turn before you fell asleep though. Hopefully they'll be too comfortable now to make all that effort again.

RueDeWakening · 02/07/2014 11:50

Seems to be a theme! DD took us 18 months, but DS1 (triplets) and DS2 were both, um, one shot deals :o Blush :o

At least we'd decided in principle that having another baby wasn't a bad plan...

Hungry hope baby stays put now and doesn't cause too much trouble.

M won't go to nursery until he gets his preschool funding through either - not sure when that will be, he might get it from 2 because DH is a student at the moment (and we're skint so on child tax credits). I've just started doing Usborne books, so hopefully that might add to the purse a little, fingers crossed!

BeanCalledPickle · 02/07/2014 14:40

HH does that mean if it had worked straight away you would have had two under one?!

HungryHorace · 02/07/2014 16:52

Yeah, I think it would've been 11 months between them. Something like that!

To be honest, neither of us like condoms and I didn't want to use anything hormonal, so we chatted about it and decided to go for it! :-)

This time it's back on the contraceptive injection at my 6 week check up.

BeanCalledPickle · 02/07/2014 16:58

That wouldn't have worked here. Didn't get periods back until a couple of months ago!

Mrs81 · 02/07/2014 17:41

My DH's brothers are 11m apart. Crumbs. It's a terrifying thought.
Still waiting for my period to return. I quite enjoy not having it, but a spot of reassurance that all is in order would be kinda nice!

BeanCalledPickle · 02/07/2014 18:09

I read somewhere that we are designed to have three years between children, and that the fact we rarely breastfeed beyond a year and have better nutrition etc means our bodies are ready quicker. Interesting points! Obviously we wouldn't wait until our thirties either!