June 2013 Commando crawlers vs Baby slugs

[SunnyL]

Hi all - the old thread was about to run out so I started a new one.

Little Miss was up to mischief last night. Thankfully it's DHs day off today so he took her into bed with him while I slept in the spare room. She is just so excitable when she wakes up at night. It can can 90 minutes to scrape her off the ceiling.

MrsBri I realise you probably don't get a spare 5 mins when you feel like cooking right now, but I have to say those muffins were suprisingly quick to make. They probably only took about 15 mins to make each batch plus cookign time. I have silicone cupcake cases which made it quicker too.

Apparently I have to stop buying lots of preloved cloth nappies. I can't help myself. I had the sudden realisation that all our nappies are boring plain colours and that there is a world of cute patterns and prints out there. Need to find things to sell to fund this habit!!

So, the No Cry Sleep Solution makes clear what I already suspected - the lack of daytime sleep affects night sleep. DS has always been a very poor napper - he refuses to nap in his cot and will only nap a) on me, bf b) in the pram, moving c) in the car, moving. We get usually a nap of about 30-40 mins around 11am and one about 30 mins at 230ish. The book says 4 hours of naps in total is normal!! No wonder I can't get any housework done. Anyone got any tips for getting him to nap better? Is this unusual?

Mrsbri- we have gentle rolling only, no crawling or standing yet

Sunbeam- yes, I've always thought good naps=better nights and vice versa. Our naps are ALWAYS in the pram or car. The morning nap can be acheived by rocking the pram in the house until he nods off, where he'll then sleep for 30-90mins. Afternoon nap means that I go out. Every day. Not ideal but I comfort myself knowing that they don't nap forever, and it helps our nights (and he will be sleeping at night for longer!!) Again, 30-90mins. Generally we manage 2-2.5hrs of napping overall by day. And c12 by night (a broken 12).

Thanks, Mrs. In the afternoon, do you drive around for the duration of the nap? The issue we have is that he wakes when the car stops and when the pram stops moving.

Sunbeam, no tips as such as every baby is different. But dd is a very light sleeper compared to her older brother, so for naps I put her in her cot, give her a dummy, close the blinds, put on the white noise maker (so her brother doesn't wake her). I've always put her down almost exactly the same time each day (to within half an hour), and decided on this time based on when she seemed to show signs of tiredness. In the morning this is at 8.30, only 1.5-2 hrs after she wakes up, but if it is later, she definitely finds it harder to sleep. I feel like her body clock is so used to going to sleep now at the same time that she drops off pretty quick. If she wakes after 45 min I leave her to cry/moan and she usually drops off again after 10-15 minutes. If she doesn't I'd probably leave her ~45 min before giving up on her going back to sleep. Obv if she's inconsolable then I'll go and get her before, and I realise not everyone is comfortable leaving their baby crying for so long, but she'll tend to cry, then snuggle down in her bed and be quiet for a bit so it's not non-stop. She usualy sleeps 1-1.5 hr in the morning (usually 1), and then at 12.30 she sleeps for about 2 hours. If we go out and the times are disripted I try to make sure the next day is back to normal. Sometimes we go out for a day out and then seh'll sleep in the pram, but tends to take longer to fall asleep and wont' sleep for as long, normally only an hour, that's why the next day I'll make sure she's at home for naps, and possibly put her to bed earlier that night, liek 5.45pm instead of 6-6.15.

I did the same kind of thing with DS and I think with him as well if he slept in the pram it was definitely shorter, but then again, maybe because for us, being in the pram was the exception rather than the rule. Who knows?

It is hard though isn't it?

Strangely Lily appears to nap less during the daytime when she has more sleep at night. This only seems true since 8 months. Before that it was most certainly the rule that if she didn't nap during the day she was a monster at night. Up until a couple of weeks ago she was having 2 x 2hr naps. Now it seems to fluctuate with her only sleeping for 30 minutes sometimes.

She only naps in her buggy or car seat during the day. I used to have to walk for at least 10 minutes to get her to sleep during the day but after some concerted effort on my part I can now get her to sleep by rocking the buggy for a few minutes. Luckily when she falls asleep in her car seat I can lift the set out and pop her in her room. That's all going to change though as we are about to move into the fixed car seat. I can foresee me spending a lot of time parked in the driveway playing on my phone while she sleeps.

Having written all of the above, I can now reassure you all that E just woke up after only 1 hr...

DD definitely sleeps worse at night when she hasn't had her usual naps. She still needs to nap after 2-3 hrs of being awake (she usually has three naps a day), for at least 1 1/2 hrs each nap. As I've said before, I'm still letting her sleep on me during the day so that she gets the naps she needs.

We really enjoyed the sunshine here, we had lots of lovely walks and days out, I can't believe it lasted so long. I hope everyone else enjoyed it too.

No crawling here but up until this week DD had shown no interest in moving. I've seen a big change in DD in the last week, she's finally rolling both ways (never thought she would, she didn't seem interested and hates being on her tummy) and has now really got the hang of bouncing in her chair and in the jumperoo (she was more interested in the toys on them before). She has a lot of strength (she has done since birth, she could support her head from very early on and has been able to sit unsupported for a good few months); she has the strength to push herself up using her legs and stand (and has done for a while) but she doesn't have the balance yet.

I used a stretchy wrap when DD was younger - I loved it, and we also have an Ergo carrier which is great (my husband uses this).

Wow, interesting. Your babies nap for ages! Aloha, your LO also goes to bed v early compared to mine - we start routine of bath etc at 7pm and he's asleep by 8.

It's somethign that worked for us with DS. Partly cos in Hawaii everything happened early - we used to get up at 5am! But we grew to like having the evenings to ourselves. So now DD goes to sleep at about 6ish and DS (nearly 3) goes to bed at 6.30-7.00, usually alseep by 7. She'll wake around 6.30 for good but is often awake a bit earlier but will fall back asleep, he is usually awake by 6.15 but we're working on him just staying in his room till 6.45!

Sunbeam- usually naps are in pram rather than car. But yes, if in the car then 99% of time he would wake when we "arrive". In the pram, so long as I don't stop at 30min intervals (must be his sleep cycle) then I can stop walking around after a while sometimes. I don't mind the walking now that it's only once a day to be honest...

Thanks, this is all good stuff!

Amy naps well, it has to be said.

Usually 2-3 naps of 1-1.5 hours a time. Longer if she's playing catch up. Like Aloha, I leave her if she squawks as she normally drops off again. And also likewise, proper crying is seen to as fast as we can get upstairs.

She generally naps in her cot bed, under a sheet and blanket for day naps, not her sleeping bag. She's also good at getting herself to sleep unless she's teething. It's funny, when she's tired and still up, she'll try to force herself backwards to lie down...that's the take me to bed signal!

If she won't nap at home (rare) she gets taken out in the pram. Never the car.

She goes bed at about 8pm, as she often has a late (5pm) nap so won't go too early. I'm just glad she's finally worked out she doesn't need to eat overnight. Though if she wakes when teething we end up giving 90ml to get her back off, as she'll realise she's peckish and won't sleep! She doesn't wake for food now though.

Aloha, what size cupcake silicon things do I need? eBay is calling! As we think she may have grown out of the lactose thing I'll try her with cheese. Have to keep testing her anyway.

MrsBri, I have individual heart shaped cup cake cases given to me as a gift. A bit twee but actually quite useful because if I only part fill them they come up at a good size for baby snack. I was thinking of getting more so I don't have to do batches, if so I'd probably go for a mini-muffin size silicone baking tray.

So guys..what are your thoughts on night weaning? My bubba generally sleeps fairly well-bath 6:30 then breastfed and down anytime from 7-7:30 then sleeps and wakes once anytime around 5/6am. I normally bfeed him then pop him back down and he'll sleep until 7/7:30am.

I was thinking about weaning him off boob when he wakes in the night as he is starting to be not interested in his morn feed (7:30am) as he had a feed when he wakes early morn.

As we don't co-sleep and he is in his cot in his own room I am not sure what to do when he wakes and how to settle him bk down without boob. Is it a progressional thing; as in go in comfort by stroking or pick up and put bk down?

Any advice or thoughts, is it ok to still bfeed upon waking at 9 months?

Sunny has nursery changed her sleep much?

Polly has settled into a nap around eleven for an hour or so and then another late afternoon. Usually sleeps through 730-7 ish.

On the muffin thing I can now recommend tipping the whole lot in a sandwich tin. Makes one massive muffin which I then cut into chunks. Works really well!

It's taken quite a while for he to nap at nursery as well as she does at home. She was always very cheerful at nursery but knackered when she got back. Theres no specific routine though. It used to be 2 hours between naps tops, then it became 3 and now she's done some crazy days where it's been 5 hours between naps. I wish I could predict when they were going to happen. I wonder if it is because we don't have a real routine on days off - just depends who is around and what we are up to.

This weekend could be interesting. DH is taking me to a spa hotel for the night and his parents are looking after her. 20 whole baby free hours. The plan is to eat tonnes, drink tonnes and sleep tonnes. So looking forward to it.

Eliza my dd still bf's several times overnight and because of this rarely wants to feed when we get up. It doesn't particular bother me as I still feed completely on demand so she lets me know when she is hungry. Your lo sounds like they are doing amazingly very jealous

Sunny that sounds like absolute heaven!!!

Sunny, you lucky lucky woman!! Any chance your parents would run a mass overnight babysitting service?

Thanks for the sling tips. Off to a sling library at the weekend so fingers crossed we find something.

Having read all your posts about sleep I think where our nighttime sleep is failing is the daytime naps. We have such a haphazard routine and although I can get him to reliably nap with boob, during the week it's my SIL who looks after him and she can't really get him to sleep very well (usually left until too tired, lots of crying and then he'll wake up 30-45 mins later). Things got better with DS1 when he went from 2 naps to 1 nap and it was a bit easier to administrate. Not sure when that will be.

I need a week of sleep. Does anyone else feel that they're getting ill a lot more with kids? I'm especially noticing it now with the 2nd one. I just never get the proper rest I need to fight things off. Having a horrible cold at the moment and I'm grumpy!! I think I need some &

Oooooooooooooh is that why I've had a cold since Christmas, including 3 weeks of coughing resulting in strained intercostal muscles which I still have???

That does sound like heaven, sunny!

I'm actually getting ill a lot less but I think that's due to not being stuck in an air-conditioned office full of people all day... Hope you feel better soon rrreow.

We've been using cake cases we already had for muffins but the silicone cases sound like a good investment and the sandwich tin is a good idea too.

Still no teeth!