December 2013 - sleepless nights & lots of cooing

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Our very first Thread :)

Hello all. sorry I haven't been around much. I keep forgetting to post. have been reading everything though.

hope poorly mums and babies are feeling better.
I need to give olivia a bath tonight as it's been 4 days since I last did it. im scared to though as I accidentally dropped her last time and her head went under. scared the life out of me. I don't want to do it again

Omygod just discovered chicken pox on my ds1. Is it dangerous for small babies??? Fuck it all

tucking I hated bathing my DD and she hated me bathing her but now as someone suggested on here I get OH to pass her to me when I have bath so she's in with me, when he's not been around I have bought a foam bath support for big bath so she doesn't slip and can even lay down on it if water is at rite level and support is positioned well. You won't drop baby again, as you will be extra vigilant and also she was ok, she spent many months in water so don't worry and get your confidence in bathing again

oh mum I don't know about chicken pox. could it just be eczma?

I bathed her without incident. hurrah

mum if you haven't had chicken pix then J wouldn't be immune to it, take him to the doctors Hun xx

lisb Joshua woke twice last night too- similar times. How old is Hannah? DH seems to think J should be practically sleeping through already and it's doing my head in as he expects too much!! With GF you can tweak the routines to suit- I often found I had to bring feeds fwd due to hunger but the most important thing is to start the day at 7am then the rest falls into place quite well.

alyssa it's actually my eldest who has it- I'm just worried about J getting it. I actually got chicken pox when I was pregnant with my eldest! Apparently (I've now been told) babies under 1 month are more vulnerable so I guess I just have to hope J doesn't get it or it's mild...

Sorry mum I read that wrong and assumed it was the baby.
Hope ds1 feels better soon Hun xx

Hi mum - she's 8wks. I am bad because DD1 slept through at 10wks so I keep having that in mind as a target which I think is setting myself up for disappointment!

I don't know how to start the day at 7am if she's still conked out from a mini feed at 5ish? I think days will be easier to figure out once she's feeding every 4hrs, instead of every 3, but I have no idea when that might be!

Really hope your DS1's chicken pox is OK - pretty sure Joshua should still have your immunity, especially as you're breastfeeding. I recommend poxclin to help soothe itching - worked well for DD who had it in the summer when I was pg.

FFS just lost what I wrote!

lisb,I gently pick up J and put him in the play pen at 7 then he usually wakes for a feed. I know some people think it's mad to wake them if they'll sleep till 8ish but I need to feed him before the school run anyway and it does work re getting them into good sleeping habits.

J woke at 1.30am for a feed and still isn't settled- grr! Will start a routine again in a few days, just thought I should let him recover first. If he wakes in a few hours for a feed I'll be miffed. Tempted to do a formula top up to keep him fuller but won't help my mastitis.

lisb it is hard not to compare- but like you say just sets you up for disappointment if they take longer. DH is obsessed with it and it's annoying me now. Of course I want him to sleep through but he'll get there in his own time!! Plus my other DC's were both on formula by this point and I'm convinced it fills them up more so they can go for longer stretches.

I just has a close encounter with a spider!!! Arghhh! I was sitting on bed just started to feed DD when something floats over her head, at first I thought it was a bit of fluff then realised it was a spider hanging down from ceiling on his spider string!!! He promptly climbed back up to ceiling and i had baby in arms so remembered not to drop everything and get that bastard! Watched him crawl to corner where he will prob come down that way. Must get Hoover out and reach in ALL nooks tomorrow. Although spiders are meant to be good rite?

Happy valentines day everyone, ill post when I'm not so annoyed at fap
Xx

Alyssa what has he done. Or not done. Sympathy from me. My DP is really trying hard to get off the shitlist this week.

Seb been poorly since last night bless him. Had a rough night. Temp and belly aches and very sicky. Bloody vaccinations. So am knackered today.

And to top it off bathed him and put him new clothes on this morning. I got dressed and we had poo and wee and sick all over both of us within ten minutes.

It's a sign of the times that I washed and changed him and wiped the worst of it off me with a wet wipe lol.

I bought him a lovely valentines card all personalised with " I love you Paul" written on the front, red glitter and everything. It was obvious he forgot which is not what bothers me he's a man at the end of the day and it diesnt matter as much to them, what pissed me off bugged me was the fact I put in in front of his bait so he could open it this morning and I got up with the 3 kids after he had gone to work and here was the card just shoved to one side un opened he couldn't even be arsed to open my card it's not my fault he forgot to get me a card the least he could have done is open the card I obviously left for him to open not chuck it to one side

Honestly the fact he forgot is not the issue, I went to so much time and effort for him not to open it.
What a fucking shit day

alyssa I would be fuming too! DH forgot to get me a card last year but he was vv busy with work at the time so I didn't mind, he better have got me one this year tho! We just went in to London and had lunch with his team and showed him off to the office which was fun, great to get out for the day. Now having a valentine cuddle on the sofa.

Luckily our valentines tradition is a curry and champagne in front of TV so that is baby friendly, but DH has given up drinking for a few months so sparkling apple it is!

Routine experts - wwyd? Ds wakes at about 11/12 and 3/4 for night feeds usually which works well as we then start the day at 7am. Last night I gave him hungry baby formula at 7pm as going to start introducing it, he is never satisfied and piling on weight! He went to 1 before waking but then woke at 5 so still 2 night feeds and at worse times (hard to settle him so late in the night). Do you think I should give him the hungry baby as a dream feed at 10, then he might only wake once around 3-4? I haven't attempted a dream feed yet, don't like to wake a sleeping baby!

I'm not sure, I never wake L either, I always figure he will wake when he's hungry but I do believe in him having a bottle and going 4 hrs until the next one and when it's done right he drinks all his bottle.
Mil believes in demand feeding and he never settled as well in her routine so I told her to stop but today I had a doc appt and she fed him 2 bloody hrs after he'd drank 5iz, needless to say he hardly drank any and when I went to pick up ds1 from nursery I came in and she was feeding him again only this time she used her own carton of milk so I wouldn't see one of his bottles missing. I'm fuming! He's now unsettled and demand feeding 2oz every 2 hrs.

Why can't mils mind their own fucking business?? It's me that now has to deal with the every 2 hours awake tonight when yesterday I did my 4 hourly feeds and he only woke twice in the night for a feed.
I do all the hard work and she fucks it up in a day

Sorry hot no idea on routine from me, we're really lucky as Genevieve has a feed at 9 then 12 then sleeps through until 7:30. How much is he taking/are you offering at each feed? We've just upped to 150ml and I'm sure that's why she's sleeping so well.
Alyssa men can be so fucking thoughtless sometimes! I really hope you get him to see sense.

Alyssa you'll get him back in your own routine in a day or two, but it's so annoying isn't it, it's why I've not let any of the grandparents look after her yet as I know they'd do what they think is best rather than follow instructions. While she is so little I can't be dealing with the hassle.

hotcross - we're in exactly the same boat! Hannah wakes at 1ish then 5ish. If she feeds at 5 then she doesn't really settled back properly, and it feels odd to then start the day around 7.

I am just hoping that the feeds just push back an hour or so, so that we have one at 2.30 and then her nothing until 6.30.

Interested to see if anyone else has any ideas on how to do this, other than wait and see!

Hi all. My lo has generally been feeding every 3 hrs. Feeds at 9am,12,3,6,9. We then put her to bed. She wakes at 2 and normally 5 ish for feeds and then feeds at 9 again. Last night she fed at 2 and then didn't wake til 8.45. Wow I felt like a new person! She's 9 weeks on Sunday so hoping for longer stretches during the night but we shall see.
Like others my mum is looking after her tmrw so although I've given strict instructions and explained reasons for everything no doubt she'll do what SHE thinks is best. Have only just managed a routine of sorts so will be super annoyed if she doesn't stick to it!!

I'm no expert but if any of you prefer a 2ish wake then 7 yo have to try the dream feed! It does work as the point is you don't need to wake a sleeping baby- they are kind of asleep hence the 'dream' bit. If you wait for them to wake naturally you'll get the pattern of a 12pm wake then 4 or 5 am wake which like some of you said isn't ideal then you have the problem of 7am being too close to 5am and they don't want to feed. Like I said before, I followed gf and did a dream feed and by 8-10wks both my DS's were more less sleeping from 11pm to 7am. Maybe just try it! If the dream feed doesn't work then you can always go back to not disturbing them. It is a strange phenomenon though, I remember picking ds out of the cot, out the bottle in their mouth whilst their eyes are closed, they drink then you put them back and done! I did find that it didn't work for ds2- he'd keep his mouth clamped shut and refuse! Or if I did get some in he'd refuse any more after burping.

I'm not sure I'm anywhere near getting there with Joshua tho I'd rather be up once in the night after dh feeds him at 10.30pm than say 12 and 5.

lisb if you feed her at 10,30pm instead of waiting for her to wake then you'll get your preferred pattern of 2/3am then 7am. The trick Gina then uses is that when the 2/3am wake gets closer to 4/5am is to offer less- basically offer the least amount of milk that will settle them (I seem to remember 60-90ml) so they will still wake for a full feed at 7am or do a split feed if it's after 5.30/6am (half the 7am feed or one side on the boob)

Oh and I sympathise re mothers and MIL's! Been there re them screwing up the routine and/or feeding! I find if amazing how I can tell them the routine and it's like it goes in one ear and out the other and they do whatever they think is right! My MIL is coming to stay in a few months for 2 weeks so I'll be going through it again. FIL is worse- last time (with dc2),all I got was 'oh dont wake him it's cruel'! Yeah well the routine works and if I let him sleep all day it'll be me dealing with the consequences!

And what's this about-J has been feeding since 3.30. Longest feed ever!!...