December 2013 - sleepless nights & lots of cooing

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Lis seb is lovely first thing. Smiley and interested and social. Come 10amish he gets a bit tired and needs a nap. After he wakes up he will have a decent feed, go ib his gym or we go out for a while. Another feed then he needs a good sleep. A couple of hours at least.

The problem is that he will only sleep on me ib the day. So we either struggle with me getting him to sleep tgen putting him down for him to wake up after 10 mins unhappy and cross and tired. Or he goes in the sling and he will sleep for 3 hours.

Back breaking for me but at least when he wakes up he is happy and hungry. It's not ideal and if the weather is ok next week I'm going to try taking him for a walk in the pram at that time to see if he will go down that way. Or try feeding him lying down on my bed. But he really is miserable without enough kip. But like hannah sleeps ok at night.

mum hope J is improving, must be so hard watching him suffer but he's in the best place

lis is this a recent thing? Maybe check the wonder weeks app? Tom was v grumpy during his first one, next one starts soon and I'm not looking forward to it! Tom sounds similar to Seb, great in the morning then grumpy if he hasn't slept enough. But if he sleeps too much then he doesn't settle all evening, it's hard to get the balance right

Hope you are at home mum and j is on the mend.

Is the wonder weeks book good? Am considering a couple of parenting books to help us along. Was saying to my mum earlier that dd was such an easy baby. I can't remember her keeping me up. I co slept and mix fed from about 4 weeks. Can remember doing housework with her watching me in her bouncer from room to room and can't remember her even crying!

Seb very different lol. He is made of velcro and very much a mummies boy already. Having as much information as possible makes me more confident. And forewarned is forearmed and all that lol.

Is anyone else's DPs really annoying them? Mine seems to think that because I am at home all day with the baby and that because I am bfing he is solely my responsibility. Wanker lol.

His idea of helping is taking the baby from me then following me about while I try and get stuff done. So then the baby murmurs, he passes him to me then fucks about with whatever I was doing and cocks it up.

And when I kick off at him he tells me it's my hormones, buys me something nice and tells me that I should sleep when the baby sleeps to get some rest. Fucker. If he would listen he would know he doesn't sleep unless he is in the sling. Ffs.

mum hope everything's going okay!

mogz I keep meaning to say I collected the sling and it's fab thank you so so much, making life so much easier.

alyssa I used to suffer from panic attacks a lot, I used to have to sleep with a paper bag next to the bed as I woke up with them. Breathing into a paper bag does really help as it gives you something to concentrate on and regulate your breathing, the other thing that helped me massively was rescue remedy spray you can get it from anywhere in the medicine aisles and can get it in pastiles if you'd rather eat then spray into your mouth. Another thing was a breathing technique where you close one nostril with your thumb, breathe in with the other slowly for five, hold it for five, then breathe out for five then swap nostrils and keep repeating until you feel calmer. Always available for a private message if you need to!

Sorry I'm not managing to keep up as well as I used to, hope everyone's doing okay and so are all the bubs xx

MrsS great to hear from you, glad you're getting n with the sling, it took me a good few days to get used to tieing my one, ended up in a right mess one or two times!

Haha me too, I had to watch the YouTube videos she's done to figure it out they made so much more sense!!

Thank you very much for the techniques mrs ill be trying them all and lovely to know I can message you too xx

Anytime alyssa hope they help

I swear Lleyton knows when dp is on night shift and acts himself, it takes me until around 10pm ish when he has a bottle for him to finally settle, then I dread him waking for the next one as I know he's not going to go back in his bed again.
My neck and shoulders are really hurting this morning with yet another 48 hours of constantly holding him and I'm nearly out if codeine
Now he's decided as dp is in bed after night shift,that today he wants feeding every 2 hours and inbetween will not go to sleep and will only settle in his bouncer if I'm sitting on the floor where he can see me

frouby just saw your post about your DP and it made me laugh so much - I totally get where you're coming from! After yesterday's weepiness I had it out with DH and feel loads better - realised I was actually more miserable about him and the way he was supporting me (or not!) than anything else. I spent the week really looking forward to the weekend when I could have some help, but instead the 6 Nations rugby took over and I was left doing all the baby tasks. He gets it now, I hope, so I feel a lot better.

Thanks everyone for all the replies - I think Hannah is probably just doing normal baby behaviour but after a tough week pretty much flying solo I was knackered yesterday and my tolerance for a less than cheery baby wasn't great. I feel much brighter today but will still chat to the HV when I get Hannah weighed on Wednesday.

We have the first jabs tomorrow so am bracing myself for what that brings!!

alyssa you poor thing - hope you get a chance to rest up at some point.

mumof how are things going with Joshua? Hope he's getting better.

Somehow I find weekends harder, because I expect it to be easier with DH home but it turns out to be more difficult coordinating the day, getting naps in etc. in the week I know I have to get on with it so I do.

Has anyone managed self settling yet? Ds used to nap quite well once I had cuddled him to sleep then put him down but now he wakes up repeatedly, I barely get a shower. I think it's because he can't settle himself and from what I've read it starts with naps then leads to night waking. I'm not keen on leaving to cry so from tomorrow I'm going to start trying with naps to put him down awake. This morning he woke me about 6.30 but was chatting so thought I'd leave him for a bit, then next thing I knew it was 7.45 and he wanted feeding. I can't believe he was awake all that time without crying so he must have settled back to sleep. And we were going out earlier and I put him in pram, went too loo and when I came back he was asleep. So hopefully this is the start of him putting himself to sleep.

My other 2 started to self soothe and slept through from 10 weeks but Lleyton obviously has other ideas lol.
I think he knows he's my last one and just concreting the idea that he will forever be the youngest lol

hotcross I am hoping and pray for self settling to happen and soon! Thomas is 9 weeks this week & I've heard that it normally happens around 10 weeks. I need him to be able to self settle and to get to sleep without being rocked or fed to sleep. ATM the only way I can get him to sleep is to feed him or rock him. I have noticed sometimes when he is sleeping he starts to stir & cry but then never properly wakes up.

I have to say that most of our DP/DHs sound pretty clueless! Mine has the best intentions but sometimes is just so...so, clueless! That is the only word. A couple of times as soon as he gets in I hand him a fussy baby and he tries for about 2 seconds and then attempts to hand him back!

I tried to have my first evening away from the boys on Thursday and it didn't go so well. I had pumped a tiny bit of milk that DH could give T if he got fussy but I did feed him before going and knew I wouldn't be out for more than 3 hours. Well, apparently T started crying as soon as I left and didn't let up. Poor DH text me after an hour saying "I'd really like you home before 9." That was about 8:15 and I'd only been out for an hour. So I; of course, rushed home!

Lovely to see you getting some support alyssa. I know we all have good days and bad days.

& froub I don't have the wonder weeks book, but I have the app. It is fairly interesting and it isn't a huge amount to read and it is really easy to understand so I like it. But as with all parenting books and self help books I take it all with a grain of salt. A friend has recommended the Baby Whisperer by someone Hogg but I haven't got it yet (she recommends it so highly she is buying me a copy!) so we'll see. I'm not sure I have the energy to read it cover to cover but I might skim it.

Oh aylssa I totally feel you on the aches and pains from holding the baby for too long!! My elbows have been killing me! I'm seriously considering sleeping in my moby wrap if I have to so that I don't have to hold Thomas fully. I consulted my best friend who happens to be a physio - he reply "Put the baby down." Can you tell she doesn't have kids yet! I'm not even old (only 28!) but gee all this holding baby, bending over, floor sitting - ouch! If that isn't an argument for having kids young than I don't know what is!

Did I read somewhere before there is a facebook group for us all as well. Do you all tend to use that too? Would be nice to share photos and such. But then I guess you'd all know who I really am.

Lol crispy I think stom can hook you up on the Facebook group.
I feel like an old lady with all the pains I have lol and barely make it through a day without pain relief.

My LO was 8 weeks yesterday and he does occasionally self settle but mainly I cheat and stick a dummy in his mouth which works a treat!! I really don't like dummies and in an ideal world would not use one but my god it made such a difference to the level of crying!!
DS is often happy in the mornings with lots of smiling but by early afternoon needs lots of input and is grizzly and clingy but the dummy does help
Think he is going through a growth spurt at the moment. I'm EBF and have fed him 9 times already today!! I'm knackered!!!!
Hope those poorly babies are feeling a bit better today

mum how's everything? Xx

crispy inbox me a link to your facebook profile.
I tend to use it more I can't keep up with MN lol

Hope everyone is well went to a wedding last night do was best man he done such a lovely speech I was so proud I nearly cried! Mum looked after dd so I had a few drinks lol
Spent the night in a swanky hotel bed was HUGE lol
It was called old thorns in liphook in Hampshire. Worth going to you get breakfast & use of the pool/ hot tub/sauna all included & there's an on sight Starbucks & golf course for the men lol x

Dasie seb is the same at the moment. And has been for the last couple of days. Had an awful night last night. Up every hour on the hour and has been cluster feeding for the last 2 days.

I'm exhausted and have this cold bug going around so resorted to trying a ff this evening. Little bugger spat most of it out. Probably had about an oz. Tops 2. Then wanted boob again when I changed him.

He is fast on at the moment and I am praying he stays that way.

Dp is on the shitlist again. Told him this morning to shape up or piss off and I bloody meant it. I know he works hard for us. And I know we have a nice life because of it. But he has a business because I do the books and tax stuff. So without me he wouldn't have a business.

I refuse to accept that because I have a baby it means that I will put up with him throwing his weight around like some 1950s throwback. Tosser.

Think he got the message though. He has tried a bit more. Wish he hadn't though. Ended in seb pooing on my cream bedding. Ffs.

Can I ask of the Facebook group is private or can anyone join? Like within reason of course.
I thought my DD was getting better with the reflux thing as we changed milk but she just spit up what seemed like whole feed! Can I ask the mums who FF what milk they use?

Hi hot I use aptimal purely because all 3 of my kids have had it and have all been fine on it so ive never tried any other.

Lleyton is drinking a lot more today, he even had a 5oz bottle and then dp put him upstairs to bed around 7pm and he's still there now fast asleep

Hello, thanks for asking after me! Well I cant remember what I wrote last but his drip is out and he's tube feeding EBM now which is great- two hourly at the moment. He seems to be recovering slowly and we're so relieved. But tho I'm so happy he's recovering it's slightly marred by my complete and utter sleep deprivation! I don't think I can do another night- i'm done in. I have survived on a couple of hours the last few nights and feel utter despair. He won't settle and it's like torture.

what the hell can I do? I might have to get DH to stay tomorrow night and just make sure I have enough EBM for the whole night. Otherwise I'm going to go insane....

and I have a splitting headache from lack of sleep and clenching my jaw in my sleep (something I do when tired or stressed) oh, gotta go, he's grizzling again...

am I the only one awake at this god forsaken hour? I can't believe I haven't even been to sleep yet tonight....f*ck

I'm here! Ds had a cold so I am having to hold him upright to sleep all night. But not as bad as for you, it's only my first night of it. Hope you're asleep now.

I use hipp organic, I think it's gentler on his tummy but could be imagining it