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November 2012 - The run up to our babies' first 'proper' Christmas

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StuntNun · 12/12/2013 14:08

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PetiteRaleuse · 21/12/2013 22:53

Yes am a pita guest. I love food but never make myself finish. Maybe that is why mil hates me.

PetiteRaleuse · 22/12/2013 03:23

Hmm. She's vomming hours and hours after eating. Wtf? It's not like she's puking every time she has a sip. It's weird. Just got woken up. Needed change of bedding and pjs due to vom but other than that she was happy. No temp, not hungry.

HoLilyChristmas311 · 22/12/2013 04:28

I love food. Hence the stone extra. But I promised myself it will be taken care of in the new year.

I would like a onesie but I would need to pee often.
We had a horrible night, she can't breath. Off to buy a humidifier today. Poor baby. Hate colds.

pr what a bad luck! poor you and the girls.

As for food. O has similar moments, she doesn't want to try the food for 10 min than when she tastes it, she gobbles it up. Strange. We have bottles with fruits at the moment but she had a satsuma yesterday so feeling more positive.

ValiumQueen · 22/12/2013 06:13

PR sorry about the vom fest. It puzzles me when they vom hours after eating. My youngest two have done that. We kinda put it down to mucus blocking the exit of the tum. May well be wrong.

I have fucked up my metabolism with dieting since a very very young age. I would only eat my own meals from 14, which were basically just veg and rice. I should never have been allowed to do that. I hope my kids have a better relationship with food.

ValiumQueen · 22/12/2013 06:16

I would happily never eat again. If I could pop a nutrition pill daily that would suit me just fine. It is all about control with me. I could do with some CBT clearly Smile

Pikz · 22/12/2013 06:53

I miss my sleeping baby. Am going to ask Santa for him back.

Jims · 22/12/2013 07:12

det ds1 has been known to have a meltdown (last night) from age 1 and he's now 3.5 when he gets hungry but won't eat. I think the lack of blood sugar massively affects his rationality and he doesn't realise he's hungry. Yesterday i cuddled him while shoving fishfinger in his mouth. He was ok after about 3 mouthfuls.

At about 1.5 he had too many stories in bed in the morning at granny and pop's house and he point blank refused to eat breakfast combined with lengthy strop. I had strapped him into his highchair and when he still wouldn't eat after a load of cajoling i basically left him on his own. 15 mins later he was singing to himself having finally eaten.

Bryzoan · 22/12/2013 07:28

Dh and I have the food discussion frequently. He is very much of the "clear your plate" tradition, whereas like VQ I avoid this as I worry that isn't healthy. I worry especially for dd as obesity from adolescence is very common with her genetic disorder. Both dh and I are overweight and especially struggle with self restraint with chocolate / sweet things. We need to lead on a lifestyle change... After Christmas.

Dd is now over the worst of the flu and none of the rest of us have gone down with it yet thank fuck. Hoping for a quick recovery for the PR clan and any other poorlies.

And G has slept!!!! This is unheard of. He is a little ragbag to get down, and usually has at least 3 wakings and ends up in with me - though a year on I have bored myself posting about it. Anyway, inspired by detand out of desperation last night I resorted to cc at 9. First time ever. But he understands sleep and night now so it felt fair to me as he seems old enough now to get what is happening. it took 40 mins and when he finally dropped off it was in a slightly bewildered sitting position he had flopped forward from. But he didn't wake until 7!! What a little dude!! So I would have had a full night's sleep if dd hadn't woken 3 times (less characteristic). Maybe one day soon though eh?

Put our tree up finally yesterday - complete with g proof cage. Very excited about Christmas now.

Pikz · 22/12/2013 07:52

Am having a proper cry after a crap morning. Up since 4 with a baby that I have somehow broken the sleep of. Snapped at DP, shouted at my mum who went off in tears.

I'm just rubbish today and no good at any of this. I need to do every bit of food Xmas shopping for my family and get the house organised and I just want to crawl into a ball and cry.

Sophiathemistletoefairy · 22/12/2013 08:27

pikz what can I say I don't think Brew Sophia's poached eggs even with a sausage would cut it. I am sorry you are having a hard time. If I were back in the old house I could come and help, or at least prop you up round the supermarket. Sad

Onsie. No. I will leave them to the youngsters. Anyway, how does one's other half get In For a shag?

Food rules In the Fairy House. Well. I am middling. I do not make them clear their plate if the feel full BUT I do make them eat an amount that I am happy with as I am fed up of, before I have even finished clearing up from one meal, demands for snacks. I think all too often toddlers rush off to play. I don't serve massive portions anywAy.

I love my food, and over the past few years have just learnt to temper my food love as I hate feeling bloated. So I do watch. My calorie intake 5days out of 7.

Whinge Alert.
DH has booked the whole week off and I was so looking forward to having him at home for a week and then yesterday morning he picked up little O and hurt his back. Now he has just withdrawn into himself because it hurts and I am feeling tearful as I was so looking forward to this time, 1. For a bit of help and 2. For some happy time with him and I feel like it has been ruined. I am on my own so much of the time I was just desperate for this. I know, self pitying but that is how I feel. I want to help him but he is not a great patient he just is all withdrawn.

Bryzoan · 22/12/2013 08:35

Thanks pikz and sophia.

BigPigLittlePig · 22/12/2013 09:35

Onesies. There are ones with zips around your arse for toileting. And there is also the twosie, which has 2 normal legs and one massive middle leg, in order for sharing. Fine until someone lets rip.

Gross sleep. Shan't bore. Urgh.

Thanks to all xx

Sophiathemistletoefairy · 22/12/2013 09:41

Twosie Xmas Confused

Misslaughalothohoho · 22/12/2013 09:52

Pikz I can sympathise, O's sleep has gone to shit the last 2 nights. I thought she was a bad sleeper before but would gladly go back to her waking every 4-5 hours now.

So Friday night she eventually dropped off at 3.40 and last night it was 3.00. I even channeled my inner Isles and took her for a 1am drive. 55 mins and 40 miles it took for her to go the fuck to sleep. DP managed to get her out of the car and up to her room still asleep, it was when she went into her cot that the screaming started again. We have no idea what is causing it. In the end I just held her to keep her safe while she thrashed about yelling and wriggling, for 25 mins our neighbour must really, really hate us now before she grabbed her dummy and dropped off. It's not that she isn't tired, she's yawning and rubbing her eyes constantly, it just seemed last night like he couldn't switch off.

She seems to have learnt a lot of new words in the last couple of days, could that be it? She was practising them over and over in her cot last night and it felt like maybe her brain was too active to shut down fot the night.

The only other thing I can think of that we've done differently recently is switched her morning feed to cows milk from a bf. Surely that wouldn't be causing sleep ishoos would it? I was going to give it a couple of weeks before weaning her completely and dropping the last feed before bed.

PetiteRaleuse · 22/12/2013 10:11

pikz that sounds rubbish. Cake

Sorry about dh's bad back soph

Bleurgh what a horrible night. LO ate a good breakfast though despite her 4am vom. DD1 has eaten a bit but I confirm she is ill. Still 39ish fever and generally meh.

YellowWellies · 22/12/2013 10:53

Miss we get a reaction from cow's milk up to 48 hours after. It could be the change in milk? The only way to tell is to cut it out for a week. A lot of the babies sleep seems to have gone to shit after introducing milk Sad . We had a rubbish night with teeth. Am counting the hours til DH is home!

Misslaughalothohoho · 22/12/2013 11:38

Really YW, how did I miss that? Thank you. Damnit though she's already had a big cup of milk this morning.

Have others affected by this switched to formula then? Or can we just try powering through in the hope she will adjust to it? We made it this far without a drop of formula in her and DP thinks I'm being a bit unreasonable to not want to go down the formula route now. Maybe he's right though, if it means she will sleep? My lack of sleep may be clouding my judgement too, and my stubbornness is getting stronger...

Misslaughalothohoho · 22/12/2013 11:39

You see, I didn't even read that you'd said cut it out for a week, tired brain not working...

ValiumQueen · 22/12/2013 11:56

ThanksBrew For Pikz and Sophia especially.

I was getting so stressed about the whole Christmas thing yesterday, but feel better today. Christmas will happen if I am ready or not, and it will be fine even if we have beans on toast. I was walking around Tesco in a daze and could not think what to get even though I had a list. J screaming did not help with that.

ValiumQueen · 22/12/2013 11:57

Miss, can you just keep with the bf? How is she with other dairy? J has never had dairy but he had soya for some time.

Misslaughalothohoho · 22/12/2013 12:08

VQ we were trying to wean because I'm going to London for work for a few days at the end of Jan and we wanted to have a new routine in place for bedtime by then.

However we now have a plan in place to see if it is the cows milk. Reading up on it it's a lot more common than I knew. We'll cut out all cows milk for the next few weeks and see how that affects her. I'll carry on bf, and is guess while I'm away she can just have water, that should be ok for 3 days, right?

I hardly drink milk myself so she won't get any that way. Just glad we are going though this while DP and I have 2 weeks off!

Thanks lovely ladies x

ValiumQueen · 22/12/2013 12:50

She will be fine on water. When DD2 self weaned at about 18 months she didn't have milk, even on cereal for a good year or so as she just would not drink it.

PetiteRaleuse · 22/12/2013 13:23

I always thought the French frowned upon introducing cows' milk before 3 to protect the follow on milk industry but recently have come to the conclusion that they are maybe right.

The follow on milk LO is now on is preprepped and is basically cows milk treated to break down the proteins. No powder you just pour it like normal milk.

PetiteRaleuse · 22/12/2013 13:23

Other sources of calcium are important if they won't drink any milk.

PetiteRaleuse · 22/12/2013 13:24

I haven't touched a drop of milk except in occasional hot chocolates since i was about 14 months old.