November 2012 - The run up to our babies' first 'proper' Christmas

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I like your take on therapy PR. Never thought of it that way.

I have not wrapped anything yet. I must drag it all out from under the cot tomorrow otherwise nothing will get wrapped.

Work has been so hard this week. I am so glad it is the weekend.

I have only skimmed to catch up so sorry if I have missed anything vital x

And Pass you are not being mean. It is common courtesy to let folk know when you will be visiting.

That makes sense PR. I had CBT a while ago which was a really positive experience, but I think I have used up my NHS quota of therapy so I guess I will have to go private.

Pass, I cannot imagine you ever being mean. I assume you have just finished work for the hols? You must be exhausted and looking forward to a rest!

Am biased. But coaching is about taking what you have and are now and moving it on. CBT is as close to that in the psychologist world as you can get. there is little point in every day therapy in going back and digging up old scars. It's about recognising failures, celebrating achievements and looking forwards. Psychoanalysis, a la Freud, is only useful in very rare cases.

Goid luck with the wrapping. Am out of paper. Any unwrapped gifts we get will stay unwrapped :)

There is a quota? How do they clculate that? < rants to self for hours to spare fred>

For reasons I won't go into, I think dh needs counselling. Shall use that spin on it pr, although he has all but agreed anyway.

Pidj sorry to hear you have Rs bug. Hope you're feeling better soon. Also hoping brys dd is better (think it was her who had flu?) pronto.

PR is it too late to invite myself for Christmas!? Sounds delish!

Chasing agree with others - your time and love is too important to waste on someone who isn't falling at your feet. Have fun dating, and spending time with people, making new friends. And enjoy your new life with O. After years of pining for inappropriate men at uni, I loved living alone for a year, man free, and learning about who I am. DH turned up at just the right time - any earlier and he would have met with some resistance!

VQ lol at poor dhs worry over secret admirers. How many SS have you had now?!

I love wrapping stuff nicely. Last year my mum took loads of photos of my pressies under the tree, to use on cards this year. It is challenging though with small person and dog and cat. Caveat: there may be cat fur on our sellotape too gets bloody everywhere

Ummmmm. Awful tense afternoon at work. Got called into Board Room to meet with medical director as due to illness, they need one of a very select few of us at the same grade as me, to cover this weekend. Not allowed out until we have decided who's covering. And if we can't decide, MD will pick. And contractually we have to oblige although I would have called in sick. Mercifully, a locum was arranged in the nick of time. I would have wept. Need to finish Christmas shopping, see friends, have ILs coming for Sunday lunch. And F is coming down with another bug. Phew.

Hello, I need a quiche fish slap. Feeling upset that my mum took L to the shoe shop today and had him fitted and bought his first shoes. I know it's nice of her and I should be grateful, but I was looking forward to taking him myself.

She's mentioned shoes a few times since he started walking, I knew she had a thing about it as he's been wearing soft shoes or sometimes a second hand pair which are more sturdy for outdoors (they belonged to a friend and her son only wore them for a month or so). I said this morning that I was going to take him to buy some after Xmas. She smiled and nodded and then obviously took him off and did it herself.

I know I am being unreasonable. They are only shoes.

If both my shrinks hadn't fucked off on mAternity leave I'd be getting DH in with me. As it is am starting anew in January. Can't wait. An hour every few weeks to talk about ME!

My ex updiffed shrink avoids me like the plague at nursery. We could have been great friends. Our children slobber over each other. They're two. If we have pneumonia this year I might sue

JJ I would be upset too! My stepmum keeps making hints about taking O for his first haircut without me knowing. I would be livid. And I need to get shoes sorted for O soon.

PR, as I understand it you only get one course of CBT for depression and after that it's just the drugs. Although I don't really think it is solely a depression issue for me now. I really don't know. I'll do some research googling

Best intentions... It won't matter in, oh, 6 weeks when you are buying new shoes as he goes through a growth spurt. Really. He'll probably hate wearing them anyway.

Can you argue anxiety as being seperate from depression?

chasing bryz speaks sense. Done that too and know two of those JFGs are now kicking themselves. However, can not imagine how I could have been as happy with them as I am with DH though they are really nice blokes. If this dating chap is keen to take it slow, it is worth doing that, he sounds nice and dependable.

The right counseling can be good. Someone to talk everything at, tell done about your feelings, the innermost ones you don't share ?ith anyone else, like the ones that make you sound like a bitch, the ones that damage your pride, those ones. I did that when I first went to a homeopath, because they treat the whole of you not just the issue, and it was brilliant I became a refreshed, lighter, me.

Still missing my DH. We are meeting for breakfast in the morning as he drives back from Belfast, with the boys, and I am going to short skirt and high heeled boots it. Just an urge!

I absolutely think so pr they are quite different ime

Thanks chasing and pr. I said to DH I would have been far more upset if it had been his first haircut! (Which is well overdue )

Chasing I had psychotherapy after being referred by NHS. When I had my initial six sessions I thought that was all I got, however in the last one the therapist gently asked if I was aware I could be re-referred? I wasn't (wasn't aware of much at that point) but she wasn't meant to suggest it as it could be seen as touting for business.

I then got re-referred for the next year (6 sessions at a time) and after that when I moved out of that area I continued to see her but paid for sessions. Anyway I just thought that may be useful info if you wanted to continue therapy as you may not have used up your entitlement?

Mine wasn't CBT but attachment-based psychotherapy. It was useful in terms of what I needed at the time but I think I could probably do with some CBT now to stop me getting bogged down with all the anxieties and insecurities.

Might actually lose it. How are we back to 4 hourly wake ups

Pikz :( ((((hugs))))

It's just so friggin' frustrating isn't it? I feel like it is constantly 1 step forward, 10 steps back .

My new sofa's have arrived! I will take a pic tomorrow, I love them!

New clothes have arrived also! I won't do pics of those . I'm not decided on them yet... I think I might be inbetween sizes . AGAIN.

I have taken the baby jail off from around the tree. So I can have a grown up living room for the evening. I'm sure it will be back up 1 minute after O wakes tomorrow .

Super tired from work, so much to do, so little time, and I'm snotty and sore throated, and sneezing like I've snorted pepper.

Chasing I was in a similar scenario when I first started seeing DP. Be easy on yourself. JFG needs a slap.

JJ I'd be upset too, but you know what I'd do --cut off my nose to spite my face I would... . I'd go out and buy new shoes and never put the others on him. But then I can be petty. And you probably aren't . It was probably meant well. But I don't like others doing things like that, and would probably return them to the shop if I could.

BP Wow. Can they do that? How? Wtf? I should stop moaning now as no one could do that to me. I'd have rung in sick for sure if they pulled that though.

I'm still in shock about the whole CC attempt thing from last night. He's managing to self settle tonight also, even when he is making his cry which means he is unlikely to self settle (his cry is monotone almost when you know he will self settle). I am so pleased if this works. I can't get over that he slept til I woke him at 10am this morning. He did wake before this, but just self settled each time .

I have given up. O has had 30 mins sleep since 7.30 and we're now in the lounge and she's eating a ham sandwich Shes an eating machine the last few days since the vom stopped.

She's been full of wind the last few nights, we're having at least one wake up of 90 mins or more where she screams and screams until she finally brings it up. Any tips for reducing wind at this age? At least her temp has gone down now, it was 39 when we put her down but the Calprofen seems to have done its job.

Between this, conjunctivitis and 3 teeth appearing in the last 48 hours I just want to curl up and cry, I'm so tired

Miss go and bloody wake him up so he can do his share of the night wakings? My DH can't be the only bloke who has realised that as 50% of J's parents he is responsible for 50% of the night wakings and I'm BF. If you're dead on your feet what's he doing in bed ? Gah it's the 21st century

Miss can you still use gripe water on her drinks? Is she using a cup? Or if a sippy cup try a different style were she doesnt take in lots of air?

I find after being sick and not eating much I have a few hungry days. It's prob the same for her. Maybe offer more good during day so she isn't hungry at night?

Talking of vom, LO vommed at some point overnight. Looks quite old so probably kast night. Fx it's not another bug.

BP 3 I am so confused by it all. But very grateful. Glad you dodged the bullet at work.

Sorry for bad nights. J is doing much better now. Daddy puts him to bed at 7.30 after his bottle, and he cries for a few minutes then seems to sleep until about 2 so I bring him in with us. He is still asleep. His cough is much much better.

He refuses to go in the sleeping bags now, or at least he doesn't sleep when he has one on, so they will be laundered and passed on. He has already grown out of the 6-18 month ones. Strange boy.

I am looking out for a big boy bed for him. We have a lovely pink Ikea toddler bed set but not really fair on him to have that. DD2 will be getting a full size single shortly.

JJ I understand you being upset about the shoes.

My MIL bought DD1s first shoes but we went together, she sought my permission and I chose them. My mum did the same with DD2 even though she had hand-me-downs. She has not had a new pair since but that is my choice. DS also has second hand ones as they have such little wear.

PR I would think if it were a bug then you would know about it. Was it much? Was it undigested? Hope it was a one-off with a burp or cough.

Chasing you should be able to get as much therapy as you want or need. Please do not go private.

If you have a health problem, for example cancer, the referral to treatment time frame is 18 weeks. If you have an alcohol or drug problem it is 21 days.

vq cancer is 2 weeks to diagnosis, 4 weeks to initial treatment unless you chose to delay. New government targets.

I have chronic ear ache. Never had it so bad. Ever!!! It's made me feel really weepy!

Glad to hear that Horsey. Very glad How is E?

Have you got antibiotics for your ear? It is a horrid pain. Only had it once. I sympathise x