October 2013 Bus Graduates: the one where we're not pregnant anymore

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Argh, dd hasn't slept in her Moses basket since sat night, am shattered. Every time she cries in the night the only thing that calms her down is to give her a feed, she feels asleep at the breast and no matter her long I leave it before transferring into basket she is screaming within 20 seconds of being laid flat.

She's finally falling asleep on me so has slept on my chest for the past few nights but I can't carry on like this. She's also more grouchy in the daytime.

DH occasionally takes over, maybe does her first thing nappy change before work, then half hr or a bit longer cuddles in eve depending on her mood. But all night shift, day and the majority of the eve is all me. I don't want to have to ask him to help more but I'm just disappointed that he doesn't volunteer, particularly as when he does have her he's a great dad.

Sorry for me me me post, just running out of patience and positivity...

I caved and got DP to pick up some formula at the all-night chemist on his way back from work at half past one. Little bugger finally slept at half four. Now set to sleep on me all day by the look of things.

I tried expressing when I felt "empty" and got the merest dribble. Poor hungry baby.

Hi ladies I'm still here, mainly just reading as things are going really well here (and don't want u ladies that are struggling to hate me [wink) E is feeding really well and sleeping fairly well at night and putting on loads of weight. I'm back to pre pg weight and back in all my clothes! I think I'm so relaxed lazy about everything as it's DC3 and sort of just do it without thinking.

Flyer I'd echo what others are saying, I hate "growth" charts, DD2 stopped growing in line at 6mths and in the end I avoided hv! Babies come in all shapes and sizes and grow at different rates, DD2 was bigger at birth than DD1 but is a completely different build (smaller like me!) and will be forever! Trust in your mothers intuition, if ur happy that she is growing, feeding, pooing etc maybe avoid the scales for a few weeks, you can say no! xx

Excited sorry if u have tried but I find feeding/having E on me wrapped in his blanket so he stays the same temp and also lying him slightly on his side is the best way to transfer him, along with a matrix/friends style hug and roll move where I keep him on me till I sort of tip him in to basket!

Glad to hear things are going so well for you threeblondies don't be a stranger - all stories & advice appreciated. Perhaps some of your relaxed-ness will rub off on me / my LO! ;-)

Our hip scan did not go well. She has an abnormality and is all strapped up in a harness that needs to be kept on 24/7.

My poor wee girl.

Just when things were finally starting to get easier.

Hopefully I've caught the bad luck for the thread and other scanees are all given a clean bill of health.

Soup I am so sorry, that is awful luck. How long does she have to wear it for?

Hope she is managing the strapping well and it can come off soon.

Thinking of you both.

Sorry to hear thatSoupqueen. A friend of mine had something similar with her little girl and now she has no problems at all!

Oh soup your poor girl how long does it have to be on for?
Well done threeblondies for showing us all it can be easy!
Baby B slept through last night 10-5 but because he is ill! He vomited his feed at 5 and one at 8 so we have been to gp who said keep an eye on him great advice no?!!! Since then he had fed and not been sick so hoping it was a short lived bug. L

excited you may have already tried this but have your tried propping her basket up so she's not laid flat? My baby doesn't have any reflux or colic problems but hates sleeping flat, i propped it up and he sleeps in his Moses basket fine now! Also try laying her on her side slightly - H rarely sleeps on his back now and only if he's shifted himself in the night on to it and he prefers his side.

12 weeks probably

Soup so sorry to hear this about your little girl I hope it rectifies itself asap so she can have the harness taken off and all will be ok thinking of you. Xx

So A went to infant feeding and she weighs 10lb 4oz I really can't be arsed to get stressed anymore I'm done with worrying all the paediatricians she has seen aren't worried about her only the hv and mw I think the dr's are the experts IMO

Sorry to hear that soup, the poor little mite. I've never heard about this, is she comfy enough in the harness?

Had dds 6 week check today, she is gaining weight really well, 75th percentile for weight and height, and 91st for head circumference. She also slept 11-6 last.night. I feel a bit guilty for having such an easy time of it. She is a bit colicy during the day, but its so much easier to deal with when you have had some sleep. Sending love to all of you with non sleeping or poorly babies, I had no sleep with a refluxy ds who would not be pur down, and I know how hard it is xx.

A few people.mentioned lots of feeding and unsettled babiesvat 5 weeks. Babies have a massive developmental leap at 5 weeks whic causes this, they are called wonder weeks. I found Dd was unsettled from 5 weeks until 6 weeks, but it didn't actually get any worse during the growth spurt. Fingers crossed its the same for you guys.

That's good to hear Bowl, 5 weeks today and Chloe is definitely unsettled.

Flyer that sounds like a great weight to me. I think you are absolutely right to stop worrying. You would know if anything was wrong.

flyer definitely the right attitude, if the drs are happy with her then don't worry about anyone else.

H has been a nightmare the last few days, colic seems to have notched up a gear. dp is going to buy some dr Brown's bottles on the way home so hoping they help!! He's either been screaming or sleeping!! although, miraculously he's been a little wide awake alert boy at baby group both yesterday and today so at least other people think he's lovely haha!!

He's 7 weeks tomorrow and still only had a couple of smiles and none today. got myself convinced its because he's just not happy!!!

So, I long for the thread to be busy again, it gets busy and In AWOL for a few days and unable to keep up! unfortunately we've been buried deep in financial planning for the next few months/years (something we should have done before..). The surprise pregnancy / twins are a bit of a bank balance disaster!!

So, few thoughts/responses:

First, to those having difficult nights.... DD was like this and I promise it gets better! It just does.

Flyer - as others have said and as you have concluded, I say ignore the HVs... You know if A is "well". The official guidance in the Red Book (in the fold out after p 42) says that babies 2 weeks to 6 months should be weighed "no more than once a month". Babies might have a week or two of v slow growth then a growth spurt....

Soup - so sorry. 12 weeks will come v quickly though (the twins are 10 weeks now) and I am sure it won't bother her.

Ana - all babies get nappy rash sometimes!

I'll post more later!

Flyer go with your gut and evidence of weight gain means A is doing really well!!

Soup so sorry to hear that :-( but I guess catching it early and 12 weeks in a brace to fix your LO now is better than long term problems.

Bowlfull thanks good to hear that 5-6 weeks is an unsettled period. Gives me/us a light at the end of the tunnel

Just back from breastfeeding support group - very helpful consultant gave me some alternative tips & techniques to try to get a deeper latch. But she also got me an appointment with a tongue tie consultant as A is struggling to open his mouth wide enough to latch properly. Fingers crossed we get this sorted real soon. Tired of the constant pain.

three blondies I'll try the roll and tip trick, thanks for the tip , will also try raising one end slightly, thanks emmo. I do have a blanket under the head end of the mattress but perhaps isn't enough!

Soup sorry to hear that, but on the plus side at least they've picked it up quickly and hopefully it will be easily fixed.

Roofio sounds like quite a book...hmmm!!

Evening all

Im going to work backwards...

whistling Definitely push for a consultation. Not sure how old your LO is but Isaac is 9 weeks on monday and were just getting one. Formula and expressing have been my saviour as my nips are in agony atm.

roofio Im sure H is a very happy baby inside, it will come. Isaac can go from screaming to grinning in a millisecond so not sure its anything to do with happiness :) That book you talked about made me chuckle, however, my mum used to put my brothers outside to nap when they were babies... that was around 30 years ago!

soup sorry to hear about your little girl. Any info on what happens once the support is off?

flyer like others have said I think you know yourself if A is feeding well and filling nappies etc so definitely have a few weeks off weighing her and you will probably be surprised. Weve had a weight gain of 4oz one week and a pound another so they definitely grow in spurts and like Ana said, weighing on different scales all the time is not accurate enough.

Imp From what Ive read, what you can express is not a true reflection of how much milk you have. Dont beat yourself up about using some formula, we all need a break

the word on the street here is that things are mixed.

Good news is, I havent been letting Isaac go longer then 3.5 hours (trying to do 3) between feeds and started on infacol, not sure if its a coincidence but hes slept 10-5 tues night and 11-5.30 last night. When he's woke (well not woke as such just whinging) Ive popped him in bed with me and hes slept till 7-7:30 which is ideal really for school run.

Not so good news is BF buddy is now saying he HAS got TT and it looks pretty obvious now. After orginally saying he didnt but was referring just to check the referral never went ahead. Now we finally have one and Im in two minds what to do. I would love to continue BF but I feel that at almost 9 weeks its cruel to put him through it. Dh is making me feel a little guilty and that its because I want it done. I honestly didnt think I would miss BF once I gave up but I know I would. However, I'm in agony everytime he feeds, I dread him wanting to feed and am getting through more formula because of it. From reading the milkmatters website it looks like the TT causes more problems then just painful feeding. Such as being unsettled, inefficient feeding (frequent feeding), tongue tremor (he also has lower jaw tremor) clicking when feeding, green stools, noisy feeding and falling asleep quickly at the breast but waking up as soon as its removed. Isaac's speciality is cat napping! Theres a whole list of symptoms and I reckon Isaac presents around 85-90% of them. The answer isnt simply to put him on formula mind as he will still have a poor seal causing wind/colic and in effect will not help sleep...
I hate making decisions but Im pretty sure Im going to push to get it done. I know I should take DHs point of view into account but his answer is just ''put him on formula''. I have loads of milk and really want to succeed at BF. Honestly, am I being selfish?

sorry for the rant, my mums doesn't understand either so I have only you guys to discuss it with :(

Definitley not being selfish hayle. It would be a shame to stop bf because of something that can so easily be fixed if you want to carry on, plus I think tounge tie can sometimes cause other problems later on in life such as speech issues. Of course you don't want to put isaac through anything that will hurt, but he won't remember. Its a bit like not having injections because they hurt. I would do it in your position

hayley the tt op is literally just a little snip, not sure why you wouldn't, even if you go to to formula. it can also impact on speech.

i read the first bit of the wonder weeks book as free sample on kindle. there is a website that says when all the leaps are.

baby massage a bit of a disaster. i didn't think through the fact that Thomas doesn't like being on his back.

my friend had her daughter in a hip cast, all fine now. sorry to hear not all clear but glad they are fixing it now.didn't seem to bother her but did look awkward poor thing.

orange my mum didn't bf her 4, neither did mil with her 4 so I don't really have much family support when it comes to it. My mum has been better since he's been born but sees the snip as an "operation" that's unnecessary. Dh was reading up and found that it would probably cause speech problems if it was severe.

Interesting to hear of week 5 being a common week for being unsettled. I'd definitely say that C has been more difficult to settle this week. However, he has been sleeping well at night, so I can't complain too much.

Soup sorry to hear your news.

excited I find that if I can try to make sure that there is a fairly constant transfer of weight, C goes down well. I put one hand on his bottom, one on the back of his neck and tip like blondies says trying to avoid him feeling like he's shifting much. Difficult to describe - not that hard to do in practice!