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AGnu · 11/10/2013 19:21

Old thread here

Bibs at the ready, things are about to get very messy! Grin

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bringonthetrumpets · 24/01/2014 02:05

Awwwww, spanks pear Grin

So so clingy today. A little snot factory and getting SO MAD at me every time I wipe her nose. Please let this stupid cold be gone tomorrow.

Me on the other hand.... thinking my cold has vanished. Silly bringonthetrumpets, this cold hasn't gone anywhere, just gotten worse. Bugger.

peardrop2 · 24/01/2014 04:03

I hate colds. Boo Hmm Hope you feel better soon BrewThanks

kittykatsforever · 24/01/2014 08:34

Did you get a lie in pear?
Yes bring I have the snot factory that hates her face wipe too! She's not better, she won't let go of me Hmm

peardrop2 · 24/01/2014 08:44

No! He woke up at all hours Shock Pass the matchsticks please!!

AGnu · 24/01/2014 08:54

Man flu seems to have hit the Gnu Stable. All 3 males have colds but thus far I'm safe!

Runt finally slept from 11-7.30 & would probably have slept longer if it weren't for Calf waking up & demanding attention. I swear it's not that long ago that he'd let me sleep until 9.30 which made not getting to bed until 1am much easier to handle! Since moving him into his own room he's been waking earlier every day! He's discovered he can open his door & he loves to bang on the door/window/radiator. I've considered taking all hard toys out but he can make a surprising amount of noise just with his hands! My poor neighbours!

The keyboard on my phone is being temperamental. It disappeared 4 times while I was trying to write temperamental & 4 times since! No, 6!

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kittykatsforever · 24/01/2014 10:47

Is it time to start cutting back his daytime nap Agnu? He's almost the same age as tiger isn't he? She went very quickly to waking earlier and earlier from 12 hrs a night and a 2 hr nap, now she's back to 11 and a half 12 at night and has a nap maybe 2/3 days a week we usually only let her have an hour unless she's really tired , it seems horrible loosing the nap at first and doesn't make a difference for a few weeks apart from them being really grumpy but then it just clicks and to be honest as nice as it was having a few hours peace I don't notice it that much

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bringonthetrumpets · 24/01/2014 17:00

Oh no pear ! What's up with this little guy? He's just really resisting this transition, isn't he?

So, I woke up with some wonderful knockers this morning! Shock They were truly impressive. M decided to sleep all the way through the night leaving me with milk-soaked bedding instead of a great night's sleep. It's always gotta be something, doesn't it?

Yuck, transitioning from naps to no naps is a tough one.

AGnu · 24/01/2014 17:47

I think it might be kitty! Sad 3 days ago he had a perfectly normal length nap, went down without a problem but the last 2 days he's been really fighting it & not napping until about 4! Today's been awful! I think we'll experiment with cutting out the nap over the weekend & see how it goes. I'm sooo not ready for this phase yet! He can be really awkward at meal times because he seems incapable of just sitting still & has to kick or flap his hands constantly. If he doesn't manage to send his water fly with his flapping then he'll get silly with it & start deliberately dribbling it. By the time we're done with lunch during the week I'm just desperate to get them both down so I can just sit quietly for a few minutes! Waaaah! I want my me-time!

Can I skip this bit & just go straight to him being 8 or so? Then I can just send him to his room with a book to read. I fully intend on them having enforced 'quiet' time while I'm home schooling. Every day they'll have to find some activity to amuse themselves with for at least an hour so I can hide & eat chocolate 'consider our learning progress & objectives'. This will work. They will be perfect children! Wink At the moment he'll rarely just sit & do something alone. It's not that he wants us there as such, more that if we leave him he'll start throwing things, 'drumming' on/with anything in sight or running around with his mop in his mouth! Hmm Even when we do try to engage him in an activity he'll lose interest after about 30 seconds & just throw things. Unless it's about musical instruments, "aminals" or construction vehicles. He'll sit for hours if we start showing him videos of any of those things. Is this normal toddler behaviour? It seems distinctly Aspergers-like to me but I'm never entirely sure which parts of my niece's behaviour were 'toddler' & which parts were 'Aspergers toddler', except for the really obvious things like remembering the way to the zoo that we'd taken her to 6 months before in an unfamiliar city when she was 3!

Calf's never done the clingy thing either. More 'symptoms' or just his personality?! Runt actually smiles when I've not been in the room for a little while. He even reaches for me occasionally! Calf would usually look if he heard me speaking to him. On several occasions I collected him from the church crèche at about 14 months simply by standing near him, holding out my hand & leading him out the door. There's no way he knew it was me he was with! A part of me feels like I would love a clingy one. It'd be nice to feel I was more important to my child than any random person but I'm sure I'd be tearing my hair out if I did have a clingy child. Have I mentioned I like me-time?! Wink

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kittykatsforever · 24/01/2014 20:11

Agnu calf sounds to me so much like tiger!! She was never clingy either , made it quite apparent I was never her favourite ( indifference to me comming home from work etc) but recently she has become more and more loving, she did identical with the naps, went from asking to go to bed one day for a few hours to not wanting it and fighting it, when she's really really tired she will still tell me she's tired now but it is only a few days a week max, at first she seemed to be worse with no nap, shed wake just as early and be a grump but gradually she's gone back to sleeping later, it was starting to be as early as 5:30 and always 6 at the latest! Now it's atleast 7 and she will always be asleep by 7:30, I definatly would give him early nights when you drop them!
she is the same doing activities on her own aswell, she HAS to have you with her to do activities although loves jigsaws and painting and baking aslong as your doing it with her, if not she looses interest in 30seconds and all I hear as she follows me around the house is "what you doin mummy??"

kittykatsforever · 24/01/2014 20:15

Oh and at dinner she is adentical, she get off her seat all the time looking for things and messing around, I have to either sit with her or tell her to sit all the time so they do sound like normal toddler behaviour aswell

kittykatsforever · 24/01/2014 20:18

Oh have you also seen orchard toys, they are really educational toys that our kids seem to love, we've just got a Noah ark one for Xmas where she has to pear up all the animals before putting them in the arc, sounds like he'd really like that? Tiger also loves one called dirty washing lol

bringonthetrumpets · 24/01/2014 22:39

Personalities are so drastically different between kids. #1 was very independent from the get-go. Needed to be doing it on his own, didn't want cuddles, was always fine with me leaving, practically self-weaned on his own at 7 months and just didn't care at all if he had the breast or a bottle. #2 was very cuddly, nursed until age 2, super mild-mannored, easy going, adored everything #1 did (still does) refused to sleep through the night until he turned 3... just very different babies all together! I don't think that's very indicative of being on the spectrum though...

AGnu · 24/01/2014 23:11

Interesting seat Frus! I might see if I can find one on eBay!

Thanks for the reassurance everyone! I guess I am just really paranoid because I've been trained to recognise things in slightly older children & I'd be horrified if I missed it in my own. Add to that the fact that my sister said she'd felt DNiece was 'different' from the age of 3 but hadn't made a fuss because everyone our family kept telling her she was 'fine'. I tried to raise my concerns with DM a while ago to see if she noticed any similarities between him & DN1, given that I have another 2 nieces of a similar age to him & she has a wealth of experience having run a toddler group for 8 years. She rolled her eyes & said "he's fine"! DDad chipped in with "There's nothing wrong with him." I very quickly pointed out that I wasn't concerned there was something wrong with him, I was wondering if he might have Aspergers. Wink I'm not worried/concerned/scared about the possibility, I just like to be prepared for things! Control freak! Blush

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AGnu · 24/01/2014 23:30

kitty I've seen a few Orchard toys & have a couple but I've not noticed anything I think he'd enjoy yet. I'll have a google though - most of my resources are for age 3+ because that's the age I did most of my training with. Don't know what I'm doing with these little ones! Wink

I only found 3 things to occupy him for more than 2 minutes today: drawing - "Mammy do it. Mammy draw a oboe. Mammy draw a harp. Mammy draw a Grandpa with a beard."; reading a book about a bear before lunch which he recited several sections of at dinner time, much to DH's confusion!; playing with my ukulele - he carefully examined it which strumming at different points along the string before pointing to one end & stating "That's called a bridge." I told him that in passing about a week ago & had to look it up myself to check he was right.

Like I said, if it's not animals, instruments or vehicles, he's not interested! I'm seriously beginning to rethink my home schooling plan. If he can remember things better than me at 2, what on earth will he be like at 8?! I'm scared!

I'm just being really PFB, aren't I?! Blush I wish I could just fast forward a few years so I can figure out a bit more about him so I know how to do this whole parenting thing! I find it immensely frustrating that I'm good with 3yos but he's not quite there yet. I don't want to push him to do things he's not ready for but I don't know what to do with a 2yo. I found myself starting to write an observation on him earlier. We were supposed to be writing letters to go in his postbox (which rapidly became drawing instruments) but instead I was transcribing his thought processes & analysing them. Why can't I just be his mother?! Blush

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peardrop2 · 25/01/2014 04:42

I'm fascinated to hear how different siblings turn out. After experiencing a full on 24hr koala I can't even imagine what it would be like to have an independent baby now.

Bring ~ that's so typical. Your once chance of having a decent nights sleep ruined by pammy boobs! Confused

Yes I'm up at 4:41. Baby pear woke at 4 and can I get back to sleep? Noooooooooooo Hmm

peardrop2 · 25/01/2014 04:45

I know this is incredibly dumb but I don't actually know what Aspergus means Hmm I don't know anyone with it. Time to ask Dr a Google!

peardrop2 · 25/01/2014 04:49

Btw Tummy Ache was my favourite toy (along with Hungry Hippos, magnetic fishing, burger, sweet shop, sorry, frustration, Mr Pop...to name a few). Can't wait to play Tummy Ache again Grin

Frusso · 25/01/2014 08:58

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AGnu · 25/01/2014 11:32

I love the rainbow analogy Frus. I've only heard it referred to as a spectrum which makes it sound like it's all the same thing, just with varying degrees. The rainbow idea makes it much easier to understand how there can be different labels within the one spectrum.

I've just realised I do most of the things you listed already! I'm forever giving him a list of the order that we're doing things in. He gets cross if we can't do something that I've said we're going to right now but if I explain that we're going to do X,Y,Z first then he'll stop tantruming, think for a moment & then repeat the thing he wants to do with a smile. Most often it's when we're going to visit my parents next so we'll list the days: today is Monday, tomorrow is Tues, then it'll be... and on Friday we're going to Granny's house. "Granny's house! Grin" We also write a list of the days & stick it on the wall so he can cross off each day. He cracked us up the other day when we were discussing what we'd have for dinner: "Man-shop?" KFC "Erm, no." "Maybe Friday. Grin" Couldn't argue with that, it was just too cute! Grin

He really doesn't get emotions yet. He's beginning to on an intellectual level I think. Mostly because he likes to comment when Runt is sad... but he'll often say it when he's asleep or perfectly happy! He also likes to make Runt smile. I've been trying to draw his attention to emotions in books & get him to make appropriate facial expressions. He mostly just looks at me, purses his lips & copies whatever sound I make! I think he knows scared though. Sometimes there's a loud noise & he'll say "That's a bit scary" but that could equally be that he used to say "loud noise" all the time & we got in the habit of asking him if it was scary!

I'd not heard of the behaviour iceberg before but I'm aware of the concept. It's really difficult to be able to step back from a situation to analyse what might be going on in his head when he's doing something that's making me cross when I'm so emotionally involved! Blush This would be why I really want to do observations on him to analyse once the situation is over & I'm feeling calmer. I feel bad treating him like a research project though. Purely because my dad told me not to, come to think of it. If he hadn't said anything I'd probably be doing obs on a daily basis! What am I thinking?! Why do I let that man get to me?! Grr! This would be the same person who, when I was reassured about being small by being told "All good things come in little packages" he'd smirk & quip "Yes, but so does poison"! I'm going to do whatever it takes to understand my child to the best of my abilities. I can be a mother & observe/analyse his behaviours in a more academic way. I shall do what I want with my child which won't involve comparing him to poison!

I'm not bothered about getting an official diagnosis for a while yet. I don't see that there's a lot of point if I'm going to be home schooling him. I figure the only use to having a label is to help other people understand him or to make sure he gets the support/allowances he needs come exam time. I am aware though that I do treat him as if he does have it. What I can't figure out is whether that's my own issues/training & I'd respond to a completely NT child the same way or if it's that I'm identifying that that's how he needs to be treated! I guess the thing I'm most paranoid about is getting convinced that he does have it & treating him accordingly & ending up with him behaving as if he does when he wouldn't if I hadn't treated him that way! Confused

I'll stop waffling on now! Blush It helps to talk about my neuroses occasionally! DH gets fed up of it I think!

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AGnu · 25/01/2014 12:20

Thanks Frus, I know it's silly really & I'm not actually going to 'give' him Aspergers. I know these things... but I still need to be reminded of them sometimes! Wink I shall continue with what I'm doing. He's just him, I'm just me, we'll figure it out in time! Smile

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