Dec 08 - The One where they take on the world (school)

[DeidreBarlow]

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I know what you mean DB, I love a quite night in alone.

I'm really not rampant. Rather hard to be rampant when the baby doesn't sleep unless attached to a boob. Though dh has been trying to change that while I've been on nights!

I don't know. No reason to be. But I was due on Monday and it is now Friday.........

But I did do a lot more feeding this month than I normally would so cycle could be stuffed.

Gah! Dh doesn't seem to be stressed about it

See you in the morning LadyT!

Dh going rowing early. If he doesn't ocme back with piss sticks I'll kill him.

Good luck to the maybes. I hope the answers are what you're after.
I am in bed. Rather nice. But there is that part of me that wishes I could stay up late watching crap telly with no fear of the repercussions!

Had a lovely glass of claret tonight, though. Mmmmm.

Gahhh, DS woke at 4.30 and wouldn't settle so against my better judgement I let DH persuade me to let him cry. I know it can work and did with the DDs but they were older. Anyway, it didn't work, the boy had stamina and he screamed and screamed and eventually I went and got him and now DH is in a grump that I've reinforced bad habits. I feel terrible DS cried for nothing. I cannot keep being up from 4ish but there seems no solution and now we are all upset.

Oh Arti. sounds like your all just so tired things look like there's no end in sight with sleep deprivation. I had sleep issues with dd until she was at least 2. And I did the same with her as I did ds. Just different kids. Ds responded well to the leave him technique - dd did also but I needed to persevere longer with her. I can't even remember - seems like just yesterday he was born! how old ds is now?

Lady what time are you testing I gave a busy day ahead but will be checking in!

Sorry I hate it when "you're" is spelt "your" urgh.

I'm up early with DS1 for swimming we have a super busy day today, well DS1 does swimming now then straight to his extra one a month gymnastics training til lunchtime then a little break for lunch and a play then this afternoon he has his first proper swimming meet for his club. He is practicing his dives now, he has a terrible fear his swimming costume will fall off, so he is diving too short, now because he's diving too short his goggles are coming off. Bless him.

Arti sorry about the early mornings. I know it's frustrating for DH but I think you know it's not habit forming. I got up to and slept with (most of the time) both my DS' & both go to bed and sleep through perfectly fine now. We still occasionally wake up to find ds2 in bed with us but I'm starting to think this is sleep walking or something because when he wakes he asks to go back to his own bed and wants to know why we put him in our bed. Anyway, someone on here quoted a paediatrician that said, do whatever gets the most people the most sleep. The only thing I found letting them cry did (at this age) was made them revenously hungry and me upset. Also there is the cortisol thing, how old is he now?

Ok so the other reason I came on was to see if anyone is upduffed no answers yet but I guess that's possibly a good sign????

Arti What a shame. A tiny crying baby is so hard to ignore. Try not to be hard on yourself, DS won't remember. Is there any hope of exhausting him somehow in the evenings? Or feeding him at say midnight? But I am sure you have exhausted all these things. It won't be forever. But I know that doesn't help.

The test was negative...sorry girls! So if this is day 13 or 14 after ovulation, Clear Blue should know. But if nothing happens in a few more days...I guess I test again. Hmmmmmm.

Oh Lady, that's a shame. How do you feel about it?

Vag, Jammy is upduffed and this time 2 weeks ago, I was too. Does that help?

Arti, you poor thing. I know that feeling. Do remember, as his Mum you probably do know best ultimately, so do what feels right to you and makes you comfortable. And I agree with what Vag says on most sleep for most people. Also, not their fault, but DHs have an amazing ability to sleep through crying babies and it's a luxury mums don't have. A friend of mine is doing a thesis on it and said that we are actually programmed differently physically. It is v interesting.

Right, finished feeding. Am going to try to keep this sleeping beauty awake for an hour or so!

How do you feel about the negative test Lady?

Lady reminded me, there is that dreamfeed thing you can do at 10; 30 or something, I never did it with my two as they usual woke for a feed then anyway but I think others did, or and you might be completely against this...a dummy? Just for that 4.30 waking?

Oh, sorry about the negative test Lady. Do you feel disappointed or relieved?

Thanks for all the comments re sleep. He can't be hungry. He wakes at 11pm ish and has a huge bottle of formula (his only formula of the day) and last night and the night before he also woke at 3ish and had a BF then went back to sleep for under an hour. So his 4am wake is def not hunger which is why I'm at a total loss re how to fix them! He is smiling away at me as I type so at least he seems unscarred. He is 4.5 months Veg, what age were the cortisol studies done on?

Lady Oh well. Perhaps this cycle not the one. How do you feel? Probably easier to take reading sleep deprivation talk? It'll happen if its meant to. Who knows you may just be way out with ovulation dates.

Oh lady I feel you are testing because we are all willing it. Relax and am sure your period will arrive. I have the most ridiculous cycles ever. I have never felt confident on knowing for sure when it was arriving or not.

Arti sorry for the rubbish sleeping. We did the exact same with 1&2 and DS1 slept through at 3mth and as you all know DS2 had me on my knees for nearly 3yrs. Still has his moments now.

I do feel disappointed but also (must be honest) a bit relieved although I think I am also a bit disbelieving. I have only had cramps so far ahead of a period before and that was bef I found out I was pregnant with DD1. Also, I didn't get a positive test with her until I reckon I was a few days past 14 days after ovulation. But that just seems crazy. So I guess AF will come along in a few days. If not by Friday I guess I test again.

It's a strange one Lady, especially if you don't usually get cramps. I remember the frustration of thinking I may be pregnant, getting negatives and not believing them.

I've just been horrid to DD1, I am horrid when tired, gah.

All those who are interested in a possible half term meet-up somewhere in the South East please immediatly visit this thread for date planning.

Also I think my boobs would hurt more if I was pregnant. They do a bit. But not tons. Ho hum! Was out yesterday with gorgeous 6wk old girl (same name as your DD1, Arti. And Nolda herself). I think she set me off a bit. Right, must assume not upduffed and crack on with busying about! Is he too warm or cold Arti? Wet? Too light or too dark? Sometimes it pays to go back to basics though I'm sure you already have. Do you have a sleep sheep?

And have lots of wine, Lady! While you can...

Arti, horrors. I'm sure he will get there, you just have to go through hell for a while. DD2 was also a horrible horrible sleeper for years. But all fine now. But only since March! If its becoming too much, please do try this lady: she was great with DD2. Although DH broke all my hard work in the course of 2 nights!!

Arti : will look at dates for meet up thread when get home later. Had Swimming lesson, now in 5 yo bday party soft play hell!

Well Rubes, the girls are watching Alvin & the Chipmunks 2: the Squeakrel. Not as heinous as a soft play b'day shinding but pretty gruesome.

Urgh. Agreed lady!

Right, have updated the meet up. Arti you had two Fridays listed so have corrected that. Will let you off on sleep deprivation grounds

Sorry ladies I've had a few vodkas but have to share a lovely txt I've just received from a school mum

Basically here little boy got shoved over yesterday by 2 bigger boys. Obviously upset. DS went and picked him up, dusted him down and asked if he was okay! She was so grateful as her DS didn't go to the pre school so doesn't know many kids

I'm busting with pride for my little man than pre school basically said was a little shit

Any tips on winding a teeny baby in agony? Hurting my heart. She wants to feed, but it makes it worse again.

Oh Deids, that is really sweet x

Bloody yes dieds boy!!!!

Beans cycling her legs, pop her over your shoulder with her tummy resting on top of your shoulder. Gentle massage of her tummy. Poor thing and poor you.