November 2012 - The first fearless steps and the rest of us hoping our babies remain stationary for a bit longer

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1833979-November-2012-Teeth-Dont-talk-to-us-about-teeth

He got it

Well done MrPidj :) you must be very chuffed

pidj yay!!

Izzy that sounds perfect. We do:

5:00 dinner
5:30 bath, teeth, hair, pyjamas
6:00 sleeping bag and milk
6:15 bed

I night-weaned gradually a few weeks ago by getting him up for a cuddle but not feeding. Then worked on getting him down dozy. I feed him to drowsy then he goes in his cot. I stroke his back, then hold his hand, till he's asleep. If he's ready, he stays still and quiet. If he shouts or tries to play, i leave for 5 minutes then go back in. He doesn't leave the cot. I do the same at night wakings. I use 5, 10 then 15 minute intervals - more than that and he cries "up" too much and is an indication that he needs calpol or a nappy change. We don't often get past 10 tbh, and he often gets himself back off now. It's not perfect but he's slept 6:30-5:30 twice and we had 1 5 minute wake last night, bearing in mind he's snottery and teething.

Vvvdp has just gone off to sort out terms and sign the contract. But we just want him out of the old place so the basic is unimportant, as long as they're not taking the total piss. There'll be a decent whack of commission too though :o

Well done mr pidj great news!

Thanks for the opinions and input onto my proposed get baby buzzy to sleep routine. Dd goes to bed at 7.30pm so j can't really slot into that yet as he won't be ready for bed til 9pm ish at the absolute earliest. Like stunt I'm aiming on just getting him to sleep before I worry that he's going to bed too late! Even if he could sleep longer than 2.5hrs in a row I'd be happy just now!

Start him at 9, then bring it forward by 15 minutes every 3 days till you get where you need it.

Or, go straight in with it at dd's time. R is a nightmare when he's over tired, and wakes more. If i get him down before that point he's more likely to sleep through/longer. Worth trying?

I'm actually nervous! Any ideas when I'm likely to see any results if indeed there are going to be any?

If nothing within 3-4 days, ditch it and try again later. I was fully confident R was ready (same as i knew when he was ready to wean) and had results the first night.

You're doing the best you can for him. As long as he's clean, dry and not in pain then the next thing to learn is that he's safe in bed even though mummy isn't there.

And I've passed a lot of the advice from here - including Stunt's link - to a friend with an 8mo who's struggling like you, Izzy so you're definitely not alone!

Massive congrats pidg. What a relief!

That's awesome pidj! So happy for you both!

Lily I'm sorry that playgroup was crap You know where I am if you want a moan.

izzy that plan sounds great. Let us help you every step of the way. We'll get you there

Positive day today. XP came to spend the day with O. I coped with it much better this time. Helped that he couldn't get O down for a nap and that the nappy he fitted leaked. Who's the crap parent now, huh? I actually feel like I am living my life now rather than watching it go past while I was sitting in a bubble. I am so busy all the time and have lots of lovely, exciting plans.

Oh and Oscar did the cutest thing ever today. After his bath he kept sticking his toes up his nose and then couldn't stop giggling It was achingly cute.

1 minute til operation bedtime! I've raided my book stash and found one titled bedtime little bear. It looks perfect and apt!

Wish me luck quiche!

I just have to report the strangest thing .

Okay, so bedtime. It's between 7-8 here, we don't have an absolute set time as we need that little bit of flexibility.

So, 7.55 I take O upstairs. Our routine is quick - nappy change, and meds downstairs, then upstairs to do teeth, pj's, sleeping bag, feed. Except tonight O skipped a step.

I was stood over the bed putting pj's/sleeping bag on. I picked O up in the cradle hold, ready to sit down on the bed. As I sat down, he just snuggled up in to me, stuffed the muslin in his mouth, and sucked it straight to sleep. Literally, he was asleep in about 20 seconds.

No feed.

So now he is in the cot. Quite bizarre. He has had 6oz milk today, plus 3oz with breakfast. Time to get calcium drops? Is he now rejecting milk? It's the comfort of sucking he likes - he is more than happy sucking on the bottle while the cap is under the teat still, meaning no milk coming out. Like wise he likes sucking the muslin or fleece blanket. But not a dummy .

Either he isn't arsed about the bed time feed any more. Or he is too 'programmed' to sleep now (like you sat Stunt they just can't help but sleep??!). Or we're in for a shitty night and it's DP's turn to get up if he wakes haha!.

Good luck izzy

I meant to update about MIL too. Long story short, I'm looking at CM's so we have options in case. But DP has swapped his shift for next week. So it won't be a problem initially.

DP spoke to MIL and she has said she won't do overtime on the days she knows I am working. Given a choice between overtime or having O, she will have O. I just have to pray my work are not arseholes, and a) give me my shifts at least 4 weeks in advance b) don't go changing the rota after it has been put out. They have done this to people before now. And it is your fault apparently if you don't notice it, and can't work it. Arseholes.

Anyway, I am looking for a CM in case.

Good luck Izzy! J can do it! HE CAN! HE MUST! Pleeeeeeeeeeease?!

Chasing that is mega cute!!! I love your O. He's such a cutie!

Pidj Fanfuckingtastic! Congratulations to you and MrPidj! I hope there is a celebration in chez Pidjin tonight!

Kyz Chin up lovely :( We're always here if you need us. Hope today brings you feeling better.

Need to read fred again as I have forgotten things.

I think J can I know j can, I think j can I know j can!

Good luck izzy!

Go J, go J, go J (to sleep zzzzzz)

Masses of luck izzy. As much as I'd like you too I doubt you'll see overnight success but I hope it will be an improvement and a step in the right direction.

We've had an offer accepted on a house. It's literally 3 mins walk from here and backs onto the same playing fields as our current house. The garden is fab and much much bigger than our current one (with a very small swimming pool at the end bizzarely) but am nervous as the house needs a lot of work. But with time and money it could be fab. Just bit nervous but excited too and also trying not to get my hopes up after the earlier attempt to move.

stunt when's your move? Must be soon.

Massive congratulations mrpidj

Good luck izzy. We saw changes within 3 days. I really really REALLY hope J "gets it", the day you tell me that he's slept through, I will raise a glass of

Fs trick of the day is, whenever you say to her "can I have a kiss?" she leans in and puckers up for a mahoosive snog . Love her.

Shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit

This is hard....
He is in cot crying his heart out. He cried for 3 mins and I went in, said the wee phrase and I'm back out again this time for 5 mins. He is screaming and choke crying really angrily I feel so cruel and it seems horrible but I need to do something

Oh izzy. Big hugs.

(((((((((((((((((Izzy))))))))))))))))))

You need to do this for ALL of you, him, you, DD, DH. He will forgive and forget.

When all this is sorted, you will look back and feel so glad you stuck with it.

O will cry when self settling - he doesn't want to do it. But he does. Of course J will cry for you. It's natural. But he does need to learn how to sleep. For all of you.

I've just been in again. He is raging!! He's so angry!!

I'm going to end up in tears soon

izzy ((((( hugs )))))