November 2012 - The first fearless steps and the rest of us hoping our babies remain stationary for a bit longer

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1833979-November-2012-Teeth-Dont-talk-to-us-about-teeth

GT good luck for x-ray I'm sure the nurses will advise FH on how to hold H. As for medicine giving - you're exactly right - distract, distract, distract. We give medicine twice a day every day and the advice we were given was NEVER to pin down a baby and administer medicine when they're crying as you risk them aspirating the medicine into their lungs which can lead to pneumonia and even drowning! Better not to give a non essential medicine like calpol than to injure him. Give FH a smack from me!

Good luck sophia! I braved my first group yesterday and as it was the start of term there were plenty of other newbies.

If a guy texts you first thing in the morning it means he's been thinking about you, right? I've been playing it cool with non-date guy and haven't text for a few days. Was going to text him tonight but he beat me to it

Does anyone have any recommendations for a savings account I can set up for C? I was talking to my mum yesterday about his birthday and Christmas and there is really nothing he needs. I will get a few small presents but it will be spending for the sake of it. My mum said she will give me some money to put in an account and then when he needs new shoes, clothes etc I can draw the money out and go and get what he needs. My grandparents will probably do the same. We're not talking a huge amount of money though and I would need instant access to it or access within a short time frame. Any ideas?

Good luck with the xray gt I hope it goes ok. Will try to catch up with the thread later, I'm at work until 5.30.

Morning everyone, still not sure I'm completely awake tbh, though I'm not sure why!

Don't be silly kirrin, I think everyone moans a little here and there and issues for one person might seem insignificant to another but they're all still issues and still valid. So if you want to moan, go ahead! Fwiw I don't think you moan much at all!

gt sounds like it would be beneficial for lo to go to nursery once or twice a week :) I definitely wouldn't be wrestling lo to administer meds, I distract e with singing or giving him something to hold and do a little at a time, seems to work ok for us though it can take a little while to get it all into him sometimes. Usually he is very good though.

Sounds like a much improved sleep stunt for both of you :)

Oh pikz :( massive hugs and pr that doesn't sound much fun at all!

Good luck at the group sophia

Indeed chasing :)

Hope you find something suitable apple

Apple if you can afford to put some in every month then a Halifax Regular Saver pays 6%, otherwise the best account is the Halifax Young Saver which pays 3% iirc.

DH was 'spoken to' by his mum and dad Sophia but he hasn't discussed anything with me. He has definitely dialled things down a notch and DS1 and DS2 are happier as a result. If J's sleep training goes well and we get the house move done then hopefully stress levels will drop down again and it will be easier for us all to get along.

Peaches jeans are a good idea as DH has lost loads of weight over the summer so he could treat himself to some new clothes. I looked up iPod prices on Amazon but there actually isn't as much difference between prices as there used to be. If he buys another guitar I'll wring his neck!

J is asleep in his cot - honestly I don't know myself! Maybe he was in sleep regression all that time or maybe this is a one off. I've made a huge could barely get the lid on stew in the slow cooker so that's dinner sorted.

Thanks kyz :)

GT I have no experience of X-rays, but DD1 has had a couple of blood tests now. They put a cream on them, leave it for an hour and then distract distract distract while they take the blood. She has been totally unaware they have done it both times [grins]

Good luck sophia :)

Just been to Jo Jingles baby music group with the bear and I think I'm not cut out for baby groups. So saccharin! The poor franchisee hosting the group looked like she was dying inside talking in a sing song voice to glove puppets. When am I allowed to take him to the pub instead!!!!!! We got the last 4 weeks of term for £12 but eegad we're not going back next term. Plus its harder when they move, he kept nonchalantly crawling off, thoroughly disinterested in the singing and dancing, to go and rob toys out of the toy box!

My cousin's Mrs had a wee girl this morning after typical transverse lie / pointless 2 hours of pushing / EMCS clusterfuck birth. I hope she's not gutted as she's v proud of her natural delivery of her DD1 and had hoped this one would be straightforward despite a very complicated pregnancy. Thankfully it seems LO hasn't got any oesophagus problems .

Stunt awesome news on both sleep and DH .

Tea (veg Rogan Josh) is already cooked. What to do with the rest of a dreich day?

Thanks for tips folks. Gp gave numbing cream. Will give FH iPad as distraction.

Right really need your advice. On being induced. And I want your advice based on your thoughts. Not based on how I'm coming across.

Basically I'm having itchy hands arms feet. All symptoms of OC , a liver condition in preg.
Ds1 I got itchy at 37weeks and was booked in for induction 2days later and had dS1 at 38 weeks.
This preg. Start itching 4weeks ago. Weekly monitoring and blood tests. Tests show my bile acid is normal. It's when results get high they get cautious and medically induce.

Dr did say. If I want inducing he was happy to do a sweep today and two more over nxt week.

What would you do?

If you're worried I'd have an induction. It does increase the risk of complications and medical intervention but being worried is probably worse. If possible I wouldn't want LO until after 36 weeks as their lungs aren't quite finished and having a wee baby is scary in itself (it's a lot harder to establish BF as they don't have the suckle reflex until 37 weeks).

Its not impossible to BF before 37 weeks but it is harder and you need lots of support so maybe factor that into your thinking.

How many weeks are you now gt? If full term then I would probably opt for induction.

GT I was induced at 39 weeks so if you want any advice about the actual induction process I'm happy to help x

Chasing how were you induced? As I think if it was a medical induction I'd be happier. As once pessary is in your on your way. But with just a sweep I'm a lil nervous.

Sry I'm drip feeding. But here is the emotional side of it. Some of you will remember this.
The reason I'm apprehensive is I really delt badly with internal exams last time. And the thought of going through again is scary.
Like why am I putting myself through it when nothing is technically wrong. My bloods are normal. Baby's monitoring is fine. Movement is regular. Have a scan later to check baby is fine.

Didn't help that I had a male dr, and male student dr AND FH in room. N I seemed judged for not wanting a sweep. Dr said "well your obviously not that worried about the baby" which set me off crying and made me feel worse. The student dr was nice to me though.

I know FH wants me to just have the sweep. But he isn't saying it.

Confused.com

How regularly are they going to be monitoring you gt? If you are uncomfortable with being induced and there is no need to be at the moment then hold on but get checked out at regular intervals in case anything changes at which point you can reassess.

gt if in doubt go in, you know the drill. Good luck. Xx

Keeping everything crossed for you stunt that things are on the up.

yw don't take this the wrong way but you remind me of my mum. Is the language you use and her outlook on the world always makes me think that is what she would think/say. And coincidentally the other week when you were talking about being a blue stocking, only a few few days after that my dad said in conversation about my mum ( which is rare since he has remarried ) .. "...she was a bit of a blue stocking really" . Is not something that often comes up in conversation.

Toddler/baby group was fine. Everyone was really friendly and someone introduced themselves as being in DHs class at school! . They served sacks (toast, tea,and scones) at 11:30 though and the has upset Os routine abit. He had some snack, so didn't want lunch. Was knackered so went straight to bed and hasn't really settled. I will give him 10 more mins and if he doesn't snooze he can have some soup and have a catch up half an hour later.

GT, I had 3 sweeps first. 3 days apart if I remember rightly. Caused a couple of mild contractions but nothing more. So went in for medical induction. Went in at 11. Fetal heart rate monitored. Pessary at 1pm. Contractions started immediately. Waters broke 4.30pm. Moved to delivery room. Then a few hazy hours of contractions and gas & air. 8.30pm epidural and hormone drip as my contractions were doubling up and not regular (I refused to have the drip unless I had an epidural) Oscar born 4 hours later. 11.5 hours from pessary to baby.

Oh and I was induced due to concerns about his growth and a few episodes of reduced movement so I had to be attached to the monitor throughout the labour.

Sophia aww thanks! I think. Am assuming your Mum was lovely not an old battleaxe . Though I could certainly see the resemblance if that was the case.

GT you are perfectly within your rights to ask for a female doctor, no med students and FH out of the room at any point. The most important thing is for you to be calm and relaxed as labour needs oxytocin - a hormone that is stifled by stress. Look after yourself chick x

GT I personally would hold out I think if you are scared of internals an induction birth with probably a fair amount of intervention is only going to make you tense and not an ideal frame of mind to be in for a gentle labour - but then I was totally against any intervention bar C-section last time and ended up with a 40 hour drug free labour followed by an emergency c-section so i have no experience of induction...I think if they are monitoring baby and you then I would wait until something changed or it happened naturally - but only you know if the wait is more stressful for you then just going in.

I just took F for his 2nd ever swimming lesson - the first was at 10 weeks and he screamed non stop then tried to sleep on me so we havn't ever gone back until now. This one was much better but he was still grizzly and cried towards the end but nothing too major.
For others who took their babies to swimming classes - how long does it generally take for them to be happy during it and not cry at all?

Ditsy Jonas still cries if tired or cold. The pool where our lesson is is over 35c so its usually fine. He's been since 15 weeks old but has always loved water so not sure what to suggest other than only go in after a nap or else here its WW3!

Yep, my induction did involve a fair amount of examinations etc.

I'm yet to take O swimming. Must sort that.

He was awesome today. We went to central MK for shopping and people watching. Someone approached me in Costa yes I have an addiction, don't judge me to tell me what a lovely smile he had. He spent the whole time bouncing on my legs and smiling and chatting away. A real happy chap. Thank god.

Solo cinema trip tonight.

Gt - how horrible of the dr. I would have cried too. Totally unfair. My understanding is that if your body is not ready a sweep is very unlikely to work. How many weeks are you again? I rhink I would get a second opinion and if there is genuine concern ask for a medical induction if you would prefer that rather than mess around with sweeps. Good luck.

GT I was induced with DD1. We tried a sweep on the Monday or Tuesday and it didn't do anything but leave me feeling violated, and I don't usually have issues with internals. It was a horrible experience. If you don't want a sweep, don't have one . They are NOT always effective but are always, at best, uncomfortable. At the start of my second pregnancy I told my OB GYN that he was never to do one again on me. Like those attempts to manually turn a breech or transverse baby I find it pretty barbaric for something which isn't reliable, all in the name of avoiding a c section . Anyway...

It didn't work and I was induced a few days later with pessary then drips. Ended up with a c section anyway, but I don't think that was linked with the induction.

Chasing that sounds like a lovely day with O. and from your earlier post - a text first thing in the morning is definitely a good sign!