November 2012 - To sterilise or not to sterilise (bottles that is)

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1820625-November-2012-Thinking-about-first-birthdays-Already

[BigPigLittlePig]

Oh, and I'm currently reading the BFG to F at bedtime. I think I'm enjoying it more than she is

[BigPigLittlePig]

Parenting....hmm. See, because of Fs personality, my parenting with her is probably fairly well into the Attachment Parenting Camp. But that's because she would only sleep in my bed, wouldn't be put down, and is very cuddly. There are plenty of other babies who really dislike being carried/cuddled and prefer their own space.

I suspect it is a bit like cats. Cat owners parents think they're in charge, whilst the cat baby really rules the roost and inside is all and [smug]

[PetiteRaleuse]

pig I remember once being gobby talking about child rearing at a bbq here in France and comparing it to owning animals. Everyone was but there are so many similiarities :o

yw I'm a grazer. Much prefer small meals and snacks to three large meals a day. In fact I started to put on weight when I moved to huge meals and no snacks.

[TheDetective]

No snacks here - not yet anyway. Like YW I have emergency snacks for when out - but that is purely because once he starts screeching, it is the only thing that keeps him quiet and enables me to finish what I was doing and get the fuck out of there before full on meltdown occurs!

We're 3 meals, 3 bottles here. But it seem's very much compacted to the end of the day?

Milk feed in the morning, either has it in the small hours or once he is up. Breakfast an hour after bottle, or after we are up if bottle was in the night.

Then from 8.30ish he goes easily til 12/1ish til lunch is offered. Then I offer a bottle mid afternoon, usually before or after his afternoon nap, depending on time. I generally like to give it about 2.30/3.30. Then dinner at 6ish, bottle at 7.30.

So he has a big gap in the morning, but then it seems all squished in together!

[PetiteRaleuse]

DD1 is singing into a hairbrush. Isn't that supposed to come later?

[TheDetective]

He could probably drop the afternoon bottle to be honest. But as I only dropped the morning one a week or so ago, I am reluctant.

And it would mean he had 16oz a day. Although I could make up 9oz bottles. I am sure he would take those giving him 18oz.

Shall give it another week or two.

[BigPigLittlePig]

Enjoy PR. Dsd has done that for eeeeever. And now likes to snog herself in her mirror

[PurplePidjin]

R is increasingly squeaking for "real" food over milk during the day. I give him 2 baby sized rice cakes or organix gingerbread men, with some water. I think he's growth spurting atm though, he's needing both boobs at bedtime and breakfast. I just wish things would settle the fuck down!

[BigPigLittlePig]

F is growth spurt central too PP. Suddenly started demanding an extra bottle in the morning, on top of draining every last drop of her other 3 bottles. I am amazed by how much they can polish off in one sitting.

[Passmethecrisps]

So would a couple of rice cakes and water be ok? I think I have a totally skewed idea of how much food she should have. I also wonder if she might be better as a snacker like PR says. That's how she has done bottles as that is what is recommended with reflux so I don't know why I would be bothered about snacky solids. I think I was brought up to believe that snacking was bad.

[Passmethecrisps]

Sorry for blahing all over the thread but what do people think about the amount of snack stuff? For her lunch she had a couple of spoons of purée then sooked more off a pitta. She also had 21oz of milk.

Aaaargh. I hate all this food business

[GTbaby]

Hello new thread.

Lo was a lil pickle today after his nap. He was knocked out for three hours. I got a good bit of crochet done on bumps blanket
He woke up, had milk. Tried to sort out his clothes for bump while he played in crib. No luck! Bought him down he was a winge bag. Gave him his dinner and yogurt as dessert. Back to winge bag. He then was super clingy / winge/ crying for 45 mins. Until sis came over to help me bath him. N fell asleep again. Seems he was tiered which is weird after such a long nap.
But I was shattered in his 2.5 hour awake time!

Really hope he is asleep for the night now!

Off to catch up on the thread

And I sterilise. No idea why I still bother. But think it just finishes off the cleaning.

[BigPigLittlePig]

Pass I think as long as you teach them healthy snacking, it is fine. DSD, given half the chance, would eat biscuits/crisps/toast between meals, then not have her main meal. She can have pretty much unlimited fruit/veg though, which stops her overeating at snacks...I'm blethering now too.

[ChasingDaisy]

O has 3 meals, 2 snacks and 4 bottles a day. Typically:

7am 7oz bottle
8am half a crumpet & a dozen blueberries
10am 6oz bottle
11am rice cakes and water (not always)
1pm bread or pasta with cheese, meat, egg etc. Fruit pot.
2pm 6oz bottle
4pm raisins
5.30pm few bits of meat and vegetables.
7pm 7oz bottle

[StuntNun]

No teatree oil for boy babies Pidj.

[StuntNun]

www.thesmartmama.com/revisiting-lavender-and-tea-tree-oil-breast-development-in-young-boys/

[Passmethecrisps]

Thanks peeps. I think I am struggling with the lack of control with p being away from me. I don't doubt the CM one iota but I just struggle to accept that some of her changes might be due to the CM and not me. Says me who was hoping desperately that the CM would sort out P's eating! Be careful what you wish for!

[Passmethecrisps]

And chasing make sure this gent passes the quiche test - can you imagine anything more terrifying than be introduced to the whole quiche?

[PetiteRaleuse]

Pass my paed (in Lux) advises that as long as they are not just snacking on crap that until the age of 4-5 they eat when they're hungry, and that she hardly looks at weight gain (except if there's not enough of it) until then. A French paed on the other hand may well ask you to keep a calorie diary already and say four meals a day: breakfast at 7-8; lunch at 11-12; afternoon snack which is more like a light meal at 4pm and then an evening meal at 8pm.

So don't stress.

[Pikz]

Pass I give a couple of rice cakes/a rusk/yoghurt mid afternoon

7am wetabix/porridge with fruit and formula with water to drink

9.30am 7oz bottle

12pm Philly sandwiches/ fruit/ yoghurt/ cold meat with water

1pm 7oz bottle

3pm rice cakes and water to drink

5pm cooked meal of cottage pie etc with fruit/yoghurt dessert

7.30pm 9 oz bottle

[TheDetective]

He passes the Detective test .

No barking required from me .

[Passmethecrisps]

That is very helpful pr. As was your daily breakdown chasing

Her snacks are all fruit other than rice cakes or corn thins. So this should be ok.

Roll a fat one pass!

[Passmethecrisps]

Thanks pikz.

At the moment at routine seems to be

6:30 5-7oz

7:30 toast and peanut butter (every single day! It is all she will eat!)

10:30 5-7oz

12:00 lunch of maybe purée on a pitta bread or oatcakes. Fresh fruit like 2 strawberries and a quarter of of peach

2:30 5-7oz

5 dinner of pretty much the same as lunch.

All CM has done is added solids alongside 10:30 and 2:30 as the bigger children have a snack then. I figured she wouldn't take them if she didn't want them.

[TheDetective]

Just found another dairy free thing.

Asda rich tea fingers.

Don't know if everyone else knows - probably!

But will be useful for the future. I buy them as 1 syn on SW per biscuit.

[PurplePidjin]

Stunt i think two drops in a bath once might be ok normally we use mum+me emollient wash (no sodium laureth sulphate) but wanted the anti-bac until i can get to the doc tomorrow. He's also smothered in metanium.

And has needed settling twice already