November 2012 - To sterilise or not to sterilise (bottles that is)

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1820625-November-2012-Thinking-about-first-birthdays-Already

[TheDetective]

On AIBU I hasten to add. Not in this group!

It just made me feel sad and crap!

[PetiteRaleuse]

Yes but Detective that is what the baby industry has done. All the books and information everywhere means everyone is suddenly an expert. Knowledge is a good thing, and means we can get an opinion and do what is right for us. But society has also become so much more judgemental of individuals.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

Book suggestion, "the big sea" by Martin Wadell I am going to do that with my girlies next summer in Ireland.

[PetiteRaleuse]

This is one of my favourite rant topics so I'll shut up now.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

I have just bought DD1 Mallory Towers. He heeeeeee

[PurplePidjin]

Think of yourself as a trendsetter Det I've accidentally converted a good 75% of the mums I've met since having R

[TheDetective]

I would say that it only makes you an expert in your own baby.

I know what O needs, wants, can read him well etc.

Give me another baby, and I'd be fucked. I'd have no idea.

[TheDetective]

See I think that is the thing - if I had known someone with a sling and been able to try one and buy one in a shop where I could see them etc, I'd have most likely bought one before he was even here .

I hope it goes well. I'm nervous about carrying the weight, and about him pulling my hair. Also about my clothes. I'm not entirely sure some of my outfits are suitable for wearing a sling with them unless I'm happy for my arse to be on show .

[Lily311]

det hahahahaha . Sorry .

Here, in Hungary no one, well hardly anybody baby wears. The sling meeting consisted of 3 women. Or uses cloth nappies. I am a weirdo. Or so they think. Also for doing the 7-7 routine. Kids don't go to bed before 9 here. Or O not having earrings, baby girls supposed to have them strangers say to me. But you know what? I don't care. It works for me so I carry on doing it.

My ergo drives today and it's very comfortable. I only used it at the front but will try the other positions tomorrow.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Well you probably wouldn't be fucked, the experience would help you. But yes, you're right. But look at AIBU and see how many people think they are absolutely right and judge other mothers on oretty mich anything you can think of.

In The Night Garden is meant to be very hypnotic isn't it? Both girls and the dog are transfixed in front of the TV.

[PetiteRaleuse]

DH was commenting a while ago that MIL would soon be wondering about getting the girls' ears pierced. I said that's not happening until they are teens. He made the mistake of saying that she might just go ahead and get it done anyway if ever she is in charge of the kids.

I said that that would be a surefire guaranteed way of never being allowed near them again :o

I'm not against ear piercing at all, but would be worried from a safety point of view. PUlling on them or gettingnthe caught in clothes etc.

[TheDetective]

Not sure, but O is definitely hypnotised by it thank fuck as it is one of the only times I can get things done! That and waybaloo.

Whatever works for you, right?!!

[TheDetective]

That'd be a case of over my dead body PR!

Could you not sue for that kind of thing?! I mean if someone without parental consent mutilates their ear?!

Just musing .

[PurplePidjin]

R was 28 hours old the first time he was wrapped. I started going to sling meet at 7 months pg.

How do you get a baby, a buggy and a bag of shopping up to a flat without leaving any of them alone? Ditch the buggy and get a sling :)

[PetiteRaleuse]

DH on his way back, a couple of hours earlier than expected. Have made it through the day without murder nor mayhem. Well, maybe a little bit lot of mayhem.

LO just fell over in the baby jail and walloped her head. I hate this period of knocks and bumps every day. It's very stressful for everyone.

[Lily311]

No piercing here either until she is old enough to understand the pain and how to look after it. I don't care what everyone thinks but I will not do it. My sister had it done for both girls the day they were born, eeek.

[Pikz]

I so agree with you parent the baby you have.

People look at me strange when I order a plate of food for me and feed him from it. Why not? He loves lemon sole!

[Pikz]

Sophia get st Clare's as well!!

[YellowWellies]

Awwww he's just pulled me close for a big open mouthed snog - OK maybe he does appreciate my muddling through .

Wish I wasn't working from 9 til 11pm tonight and then 9am-3 and 9-11pm tomorrow and 9-5pm and 9-10pm on Friday. Not sure my brain can make a good job of parenting and freelance at this intensity. Wah no time for until Friday.

[TheDetective]

I need to step away from AIBU! Just read a thread about Waitrose cafe not being the place to sing to a baby.

FFS!

ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[YellowWellies]

Parent the baby you have so true. I think 'ooooh I couldn't cosleep' but you know what? I would if it were the only way to get sleep. Never say never. We planned to mix feed but CMPI jinxed that and turned him into a bottle refuser as he associates formula with pain. Meh - next time! Also never assume that what your baby does with ease is anything to do with you and your parenting skillz - when medicated for reflux Jonas sleeps really well but it's nothing that I do that's made him that way as I know from using the same routine on bad reflux days and his sleep going to pot!

[Passmethecrisps]

Evenin all!

Snail and the whale = awesome.

Parenting labels = harmful and divisive. WTF is attachment parenting? Who isn't attached? It is so fucking offensive to suggest that if people don't parent the way you do that they are not attached.

P had only been left for a working day once before I started back at work and that was with her dad. She has taken to being looked after by the CM like a very happy duck to water. Bizarrely for a backward anti-social person I seem to have made a wee person who just loves being with people. I was worried about feeding as p has only ever taken a handful of bottles from anyone other than me. It seems to be goings fine - she sometimes takes lots and sometimes little. No pressure.

Actually, on that note talk to me about snacks. I don't do snacks. I eat at mealtimes. It's not an issue it's just the way I eat. So because I don't snack I have never bothered giving p snacks. She is offered 3 meals a day and 4 bottles.

The CM offers p snacks at 11am and 3pm. She actually eats quite a lot at these times - a whole banana, satsuma, breadsticks and mandarin and a corn thin today spread across the two snacks. She then didn't take much of her afternoon bottle. Still plenty but much less than I usually like her to take. Does everyone else offer snacks? I am more than happy to let the CM do her thing but I would like to know what you all do so I know where to go with it. The CM mentioned to DH today that she feels P is weaning herself off the afternoon bottle. This is grand but is it dependant on snacks? And if it is is that ok?

[Passmethecrisps]

Oh! And the weins were back today so back to full throttle. As I walked in the building I had my first mobile phone to confiscate followed by two lots of tears within the hour. These things were not related! Exam results make for changes to life plans = tears. It was brilliant to be back in the hanky-holding seat and help them see the wood for the trees. Love it.

[BigPigLittlePig]

Evening all.

YW I'm the same as you - don't really snack unless there's chocolates floating around but on nursery days, F has extra meals. Mind you, she has the same amount of milk as well. Porker . But I think snacks are fine. Glad she's getting on so well though.

CHasing oooh MK man sounds nice. Lots of details if coffee goes ahead please.

Pikz I loved wedding dress shopping. Enjoy! Also lots of details please. And do share how the "we're eloping" conversation goes...

Det words fail me. I can only hope that O calms down so you can laugh at us lot, when our immobile tubbies start to cause chaos. You could rent him out as a babyproofing tool though. He would no doubt find the weak spot in any house, within minutes!

PR ((hugs)) I hope things improve soon, I really do.

((Hugs)) also for VQ and evil and your poorly bubbas.

I am broody. Veery broody. I think we'll start trying in perhaps 18 months time.

DH lowered Fs cot today - she looks all diddy in it She has charmed the wotsits off my mum today, grinning and mooing all the day long.

[YellowWellies]

We don't really do snacks either other than emergency rice cakes and a banana when we're out and about. My sister asked me the same thing today and I feel that I've not been offering them. She gave him a banana this am and mini pittas and humus this afternoon and he had loads. But he had a smaller lunch - I think I've been serving massive meals when he'd be happier with eating littler meals but more often.

I hate the term attachment parenting too. I don't like any 'camps' or extremes even attachment parenting which I do a bit of (baby wearing, carry him whenever possible, extended BF, not treating them as 'an opponent' to be battled). My sis had a pal who was v into it with her pfb - never saying no etc. That soon changed when DC2 turned up and DC1 (proper wee madam) kept going for the baby. Suddenly 'no' was on the approved vocab. I like to take what suits us and use it