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StuntNun · 13/08/2013 19:44

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1820625-November-2012-Thinking-about-first-birthdays-Already

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PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 17:31

For those of us who like creepy threads: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/1833751-Creepiest-thing-your-child-has-said

ChasingDaisy · 23/08/2013 17:34
PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 18:27

DH has just emailed me to say he is leaving work. My time as a full time mum is almost over.

Maybe we should try for a third.

Joke.

He'd better be bloody bringing champagne home. DD1 has been totally uncontrollable all day.

I think, along with what pidj pointed out that it is to do with LO's mobility. She has got more violent with LO this week because suddenly LO is allowed out of the baby jail and is all over the place, touching DD1's toys and taking up more space and energy. I think DD1 preferred it when LO stayed in the cage with her own toys iyswim. Now the only place DD1 can play peacefully, aside from going to her own room, is sat up at tanle colouring etc. Which is fine for a short while. So it could be something as simple as not wanting to share floorspace.

At the nursery this wouldn't be a problem as they are not her toys, and she'll be in a group of children who are big enough to give as good as they get. She wasn't particularly violent at nursery before. I remember once one of the minders said she had bitten another child, but that was a one off - she doesn't do that now - and another time had hit another child, but I think the odd exchange of slaps is par for the course at that age. They were certainly never worried about her behaviour.

Though of course I am going to spend the next few weeks dreading a phone call to say she has attacked another kid. Despite me honestly thinking she won't.

I'm just a stressball aren't I? I think she has been worse the last two days as the email from work yesterday really sent me into a tizz, despite it being perfectly polite and professional.

Anyway, in the next 40 minutes my failed attempt at being a SAHM is finally at an end.

PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 18:33

Changing the subject completely. I have been waiting til this week (payday) to phone one of my local farms to ask them to put together a 20kg pack of various beef cuts, a 10kg pack of veal cuts and a couple of chickens. This is a big order. I have left three messages on their answerphone since Monday, and I know they are there as (a) it's a farm and they don't do holidays and (b) they have a stand at another farm's open day on Sunday. So why the hell won't they answer my calls? Do they not want the custom? It's so bloody rude and frustrating. And their meat is so good.

PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 18:34
Bryzoan · 23/08/2013 19:10

Dd has definitely struggled with g more as he has gotten more mobile and started monopolising sharing her toys. And he bit her today. Not good - though not aggressive, she was very upset.

I think they pick up stress and act up too. Mine gave me hell yesterday when I was in

ValiumQueen · 23/08/2013 19:24

The girls have been better with J now he is more interactive and mobile. I think it is because there are two of them they are already used to sharing and are now competing for his attention. DD1 found it extremely hard when DD2 arrived. She was nearly 4.

PR expect a fish to come flapping past your ear shortly. Please self-administer a good slapping as you have not failed as a SAHM. You have been on Mat Leave, Annual Leave, and are now on sick leave. You have done amazingly well to have coped as well as you have with all that has been thrown at you. I know you will not believe me though (((hug)))

J went to bed at 7. It will not last. He has continued to vomit today so is having small frequent feeds. I wish I could go to bed but DD2 fell asleep while I was cooking dinner so she will be up for ages. I might actually take her up with me shortly as a treat.

PurplePidjin · 23/08/2013 19:28

www.relaxkids.com/cloud/resources/Early_Years/56

PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 19:35

vq you haven't heard the screaming banshee side of me every most days :)

PurplePidjin · 23/08/2013 19:48

www.elsa-support.co.uk/what-might-you-do-if/

Lily311 · 23/08/2013 19:51

Every night in the past month or so I could hear a child screaming. A baby. Around this time. It goes on and on, baby is very distressed. I assume parents let him/ her cry it out when they put him/her to sleep. I want to find them and slap them hard. I am not against letting kids cry but this baby is distressed and clearly the method doesn't work. Last night it was for 40 min. Without a break. Breaks my heart really.

PurplePidjin · 23/08/2013 19:52

www.elsa-support.co.uk/what-happens-when-i-am-angry/

PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 19:53

Thanks for these pidj

I'll forward them to the nursery :o

I have wondered about using facial flashcards but like so much this last few months, I haven't been motivated. Can you believe I only googled adviec about a toddler beating up her baby sister this evening?

PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 19:55

lily it could be evening colic. LO went several hours at a time screaming from about two to four months, several days in a row. I never left her to cry, we just took turns in holding her while she screamed in our arms

Lily311 · 23/08/2013 19:58

Maybe pr. I haven't thought of that.

Poor poor baby.

PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 20:01

Yep. Whatever it is he is having a bad time. But the parents too no doubt.

PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 20:05

I am against crying it out in theory (not against controlled crying, which is different) but I think some people just reach the endnof their tether and can't find anothet solution. It normally 'works' after a week or so though, which is why I'd assume colic in your situation. 'Works' I mean in the loosest definition, ie the baby just self settles as it has no choice.

I remember LO's colic was at its worst round new year, when DH was away with DD1 and LO had the start of bronchiolitis. We spent each evenîg crying. It was almost a competition to see who could cry the loudest. She always won :)

Lily311 · 23/08/2013 20:06

I feel now bad thinking that they might be sleep training. The more I think about it the more I hope that colic is the reason for his screams.

PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 20:12

I leave LO for five or ten minutes now on occasion if I am busy with DD1 but I remember as a newborn I got contractions when she cried and literally couldn't cope with the pain more than a minute. When she was colicky it was hell. I understand why some parents go mad and harm the child. Understand, not condone of course. Best piece of advice I ever got was if you feel you can't cope, put the baby in a safe place and walk away until you are calm. Not so relevant now at this age of course.

StuntNun · 23/08/2013 20:18

PR I think that age is just a difficult one. Getting into the routine of nursery will give her a different kind of structure to her day and she will undoubtedly behave better at nursery because children always seem to save up their worst behaviour for their parents. I'm sure if you didn't have so much other stress, both currently and residual from the constant winter illnesses, you would find it much easier to cope with. My advice would be to keep plugging away and take stock in a few weeks. My experience is that children do things in sudden leaps. So I would expect you to suddenly see a dramatic improvement in your DD1's behaviour when she makes that leap to the next stage of understanding. At her age they have to learn that other people have feelings too and that their actions can affect other people. So take the long view and keep muttering This too shall pass.

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PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 20:27

Thanks stunt that is a very reasonable view on the matter. I am sure she will be an angel at nursery. Well, not an angel, but lovely anyway. After whining by email all day at my DH and sending him pictures of the various bits of damage done she has been pretty damn angelic this evening. LO is wandering round in her walker enjoying the peace, as DD1 has gone to bed... I have opened a bottle of Wine

DH is on holiday now for two weeks. I am on sick leave but rtw is looming somewhere on the horizon, but you can all expect a massive reduction in my whining from now on.

vq if you have to throw fish at me can it be smoked salmon? Am craving it.

Bastard farm didn't ring back. Twats. Their packs of meat are soooo much cheaper than even the cheapest shite from the supermarket when you buy in bulk but I so raremy have the money to buy in bulk. First world problem or what?

PetiteRaleuse · 23/08/2013 20:29

Tbh I am more worried about LO at nursery. She will love being with other babies, and new toys, but she always gets quite stressed when we go out of her usual settings. But nursery will become a usual setting over time.

Kyz · 23/08/2013 20:34

Evening all,

So tired! It's been bloody warm today!

Poor baby lily whether its being seen to or not the baby must be stressed by something!

Did dh bring champagne pr?

E managed to climb the stairs today, bottom to top, scary stuff! Did I say that already? No idea if I did!