November 2012 - To sterilise or not to sterilise (bottles that is)

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And radio chasing. As soon as you go in, switch it on. I have to have it in the background. I want a dog. Like mm has.

chasing you may be physically alone but you know you're not emotionally alone. We are all here. Keep talking to us. And once O starts talking, you might be grateful for the peace and quiet of an evening am in the grips of the "why" obsession with DD. YW's suggestion is a good one. My mum is often alone as dad travels for work. She'd be v lonely but for the dog. The presence of another being, even not human, is real lonliness-buster.

Eliza sorry to hear of woes. Hopefully it is just all part of the adjustment to life without the tube. FX it starts to get easier.

PR nothing to add to what the wise ladies of the quiche have said, but I know what you mean and feel the same responsibility you seem to feel to hold it together. In my little family, if I am ok, everyone is. While it is nice to be so important, it can from time to time be a burden.

det we're massive Aldi fans. Love the cheap. SW is ok - we havent been perfect but we're getting to grips with the rules. I now take a packed lunch salad to work. Me!!!

kyz hopefully busy doing something nice?

all round

Nothing wrong with cats being kept indoors as long as they are used to it. My two were house cats until we moved here last year. We got them when we were in a top floor flat, then when we moved to the last house our neighbours' dog was a vicious cat killer (lovely dog otherwise, great with children) so they advised us to keep the cats in for their own safety. They never even tried to go outside, but did like to sleep on sunny windowsills.

Poor DD1 just got knocked over by the dog outside. The thick twat dog jumped up at her in excitement, forgetting that he weighs more than twice she does. She's OK just a bit shocked that her best friend hurt her - bruised ego and bruised bum. He is looking very sorry now.

Poor DD1

She's fine. Luckily she didn't hit her head on the terrace. A bonbon cheered her up. i forget how big our dog is and how easy it is for him to hurt the girls as he is normally particularly gentle round them.

I can't eat am too nervous about going to the doctor.

Chasing You are doing amazingly well. You should have heard the woe is me act when I was living alone. You will find coping mechanisms. But it does take time.

Having a routine can help, so you go to the shop every day, the park, a baby group, that sort of thing. Go to your dads for the evening say twice a week, even stay over. Does your dad like to play cards or board games? Or watch films? You could do these of an evening once O is in bed.

Inviting friends over in the evening once O is in bed - this was a lifeline for me. Okay, so DS1 was older and I knew he would be fast asleep by 9pm, but O will learn to sleep better, and in a noisier environment bloody hope O does and soon. So you can have people over for a takeaway/movie/late dinner whatever! :)

What I would say is you need time away from O - you need to create a social circle for yourself. I would go bowling or to the cinema. Arrange for your dad to have him once a week, or once a month, whatever suits you both, and then arrange an evening where you go somewhere. Even if it is to someone elses house for a chat and a glass of wine.

The main things you need are, good babysitters in the form of close family, and some good friends, male or female, to arrange to go out now and then with. Life will slowly build itself up again.

We did a blw lunch today, in the form of a ham sandwich, cucumber and a lettuce leaf. Dried fruit for after.

O fucking LOVED IT! He devoured the sandwich (one piece of 400g bread cut in to half to make the sandwich, then half again to make 2 small rectangles) and hoovered up the rest! I am at how much he ate!

Bye bye blender!

Tonight he has carrot sticks, peas, chicken and potato for tea. Will give him a little carrot and turnip mashed up as we have it, but will spoon that in for him. Yay!

Thanks det, funnily enough, just now I thought sod it and text cute guy offering him an open invitation to come round for a cuppa after O is in bed in the evening. He sleeps pretty reliably now.

Me and O are having an indoor picnic for lunch at the moment as we are both sick of the high chair.

DD1 just fell asleep in my arms. It's ages since she did that. She must have had a real shock. I must admit to missing sleepy cuddles. LO hasn't fallen asleep in me for months, and DD1 might have do it once every few months when she is really knackered. Or scared in this case.

We're pretty much done with purees here too.

Three months to the day since tooth 1 came through. Tooth 2 followed a couple of days later and we are still waiting for tooth 3. Wtf? Every morning I expect to see one poking through but no, just swollen gums and a grmpy baby again. To be fair she's rarely grumpy in the mornings, that only comes when she has been nap dodging or in the evenings. All weekend she refused to nap properly and today she's having her second nap. Gets too distracted when daddy is home and just wants to be with him.

I have two daddy's girls, which I am quite relieved about really. I wonder if they'll be more balanced once they are out at creche all day and I am at work.

R has finally gone back to having his morning nap which has to be on me - he wakes on transfer to anywhere except on vdp but he likes his afternoon one in the car seat which means i can sit here and just rock it with my foot if he twitches! Will work on cot naps when things stabilise, right now I'm just grateful for an hour off

Enjoy your sleepy cuddles :)

pidj oh it didn't last for long. As soon as I realised she was well and truly asleep I put her in her bed. It's so rare that both of them are asleep I decided to tick off some of my jobs to be done. So I cleaned out the filter of my tumble dryer and joined a trade union.

PR we have had 2 teefs for 3 months here too. I can see little buds of the upper front teefs coming through, which accounts for the amount of drool S can produce. I think DPs golden retriever produces less at the mo. And massive aaaahhhhhhh at DD1 falling asleep on you. My DD is similarly aged, similarly a massive daddy's girl, but every now and again she'll do something similar. Plus, anyone in possession of a toddler knows how angelic they are when asleep. No matter how, um, 'challenging' when awake

chasing you have a fab attitude and I am sure will be fine. Don't be afraid to put yourself out there to meet people. Issue invitations to anyone who seems nice, no matter how 'forward' it seems. It is hard starting again somewhere new, you have to be a bit forward even if that doesnt come naturally.

Sounds nearly as exciting as my morning of laundry and cleaning the kitchen

hope your meeting goes ok det, it really takes the piss, how you're being treated!

yuss chasing get a cat, I will post you one of mine I'm sure you will be ok, you are really positive and have come SO far! :)

when people say they are done with purees now do you mean they eat everything how we do now, or just that you're not making anything specific these days?

been decorating a room for e madame its very weird not having him with me :(

poor d1 pr when is your doctors appt?

PP mine has been even more exciting... Washing all towels and sheets etc to get rid of the tummy bug doing the rounds in our house :(

No appointment we just turn up kyz ; afternoon surgery is between 5.30 and 7. DH going to come home early so I can cry in peace don't have to take the girls and upset them.

:( pikz are you feeling better now?

PR you are going to be all kinds of good at the doctor. Cry away as its what they are there for. Big hugs

Yeah we are getting there, both DP and I are a lot better but very tired from being up puking etc all night. LO has only slept for two ten minute naps as gets woken by explosive poo :( he's happy in himself just a little tired and doesn't like his nappy being changed.

I think they get irritated when they get the squits - more than us as the wipes are quite harsh on their skin, even the sensitive ones.

Watching LO and DD1 interact. It is so obvious that all LO wants it to be able to get up and run after DD1 and slap her back

Oh no Pikz poor you! Hope it fucks off sharpish.

Can you do nappy changes just by showering his bottom half? O loves this? Not sure if it is feasible for you though!

Sophia been thinking about you and your crazy move today . Hope you aren't too stressed. Looking forward to seeing the pictures once everything is done and you are in! Must be scary and exciting in equal measures!

Kyz I am still doing spoon feeding for breakfast, fruit will generally be purees because he likes it in his breakfast. And sometimes I will give it as a pudding. But I won't be putting it in the blender, I will use a fork or a masher to mash it down if needed. Blueberry, apple, pear, peaches, banana all mash down fine. I have frozen veg and frozen fruit in the freezer for 'emergency meals' plus dried fruit and breadsticks if required! In case what we have can't be sorted for him. I know this week there are one or two meals where there is nothing he can have from them. Tonight we are doing chicken, roast potatoes and veg, so lots for him to nom on . Will just give it to him on the tray to pick up.

I do still have some lumpy puree type stuff in for if we go out, as quite frankly, it is quicker and easier when out. I can give him finger food, but I usually put it in his mouth for him because I can't stand the mess .

So not all blw here, but more family meals, finger foods, and less use of a sodding blender!

He tried a homemade burger last night, but it was too tough for him. Wish he would get more teeth! We've still just got the first 2 which came through together!

Meeting went well kyz thanks! I took the union with me this time. The union did turn up, and I am super impressed at what they have been doing 'behind the scenes'.

So today, I am fucking grateful I joined a union, and paid the subs through maternity leave as I was going to cancel it to save the £14 a month!.

Can't really say more on here. Might update on FB later, but it isn't anything important, just more for me to feel happy over!

Yep det have done it once but am a bit weak and tired to do it every time but am going to give him a lovely long splashy bath in a bit. He's currently letting me sit down for 5 minutes by standing the otherside of the coffee table from me and banging it and shrieking. I think he can't feel that bad!!

We are doing exactly the same with food. The odd thing is too much for him so I have some standby food in the freezer and a few sachets for when out or away.

That sounds really positive Detective look forward to your update on FB. I just joined a union for the first time today. Can't believe I left it this long with everything that's been going on.

That sounds promising Det. Good to have the union on your side.

Funnily enough (talking of BLW/self-feeding) I spoon fed L for the first time today! He had shepherds pie and we were out so I didn't want to just bung it on the tray. He was quite surprised but ate it all happily. He is so scared of the blender I am glad I haven't had to do that - he sobs his heart out even if I only put it on for a few seconds to blend soup etc.

Eliza I'm sorry to read about E's vomming. Just what you don't need. Great that she has been taking the bottle though. Hope you have a nice holiday xx

Last night we had 5 or 6 wake ups between 8pm-12 but thankfully then only one till 6am. They are so dramatic though, a high pitched scream to jolt you out of sleep. He is always on his hands and knees when we go in, clearly distressed and either not sure how he got there or just stuck. Hoping things will settle down once his body is more used to being mobile..? Maybe?