March 2013 - still too sleep deprived to think of a funky title

[StormyBrid]

Old thread here.

We seemed to be running out of space (again) so I made us a new thread.

soyo* well done!

wingd did his first day go ok?

eco you poor thing. Its good to let go of your emotions. Have a good sob. Im amazed at how well you have done so far without sobbing. I worry about my own mental health and only just spoke about this with dh not long ago. What are you finding difficult at the moment? Is it dd doing a lot of poos?

stormy i have been thinking of taking out the mirena coil due to the effects on my mental health. Poor dh is living with a nightmare person and i dont think its all to do with sleep deprivation. The irregular bleeding also gets me down and sometimes i get bad cramping. There is the copper coil. I didnt choose this at first because it is supposed to make your periods heavier which is no good for my anaemia (sp?). However i dont think i have much choice either that or abstinence.

Evening ladies!!!

Well, what can I say.... I let myself down! I didn't go . I was intending to go, even looking forward to going, but then the sun came out and the worselet fell into a most convenient sleep in her pram.... so I went for a swim instead . Next week... promise.

SoYo Go mini-yo!!! What a clever girl. Here's hoping now she's grasped the sleep concept she decides to run with it.

Stormy don't mention poos. Please don't. The worselet was constipated. She's not any more. I had no idea such a small person could contain so much.

Leni Doctors tomorrow. Please! We are all worried, and will gang up on you 'cos we care.

Eco Hugs. I'd hazard a guess it is hormones, sleep deprivation and worry. It must be so hard going through it all without your mum . You hang in there, maybe ask if DH could do a bit more than his share at home for a while so you can have a break. Failing that off load on here. We've all had our moments and are more than sympathetic.

VJ the tiddler says savoury purées are the best. Even the ones that are a puke green spinach colour. Having tasted the Plum sweet potato spinach and apple one I'm inclined to agree with her I also like cold broccoli. The Ella's banana and apple one you recommended. She doesn't like that. At all!!! It just goes to show babies are little people with their own tastes.

Stormy What pill are you on? I was on microgynon for years and it turned me into a depressed, constipated, stroppy mare, with zero libido... and that was on a good day. On a bad day I was practically suicidal. My gynaecologist has since told me GPs prescribe it because it is 'as cheap as chips' but she won't touch it as the hormone combination is harsh. She's given me Femodene, and so far I feel absolutely fine, none of the old side effects. If the convenience of the pill suits you, and you haven't tried that one maybe give it a go. I'm sure SoYo will have much better advice though.

Wing how'd ds find big school?

Did someone mention OBEM? The only episode I watched had a teenage uber babe in a red bikini breeeatheee her baby out in a water bath without uttering a sound or breaking a sweat. I turned it off.

Eco I have a complete screamy fit meltdown about once every 2 weeks at the moment, very cathartic! It's the sleep deprivation combined with random demands for something you can never quite figure out what, being pawed at and clawed at, being covered in all kinds of bodily fluids and never quite feeling like you're getting it quite right! The next day is always a better one though.

I managed to spend today using my extra energy getting loads of little jobs done bit didn't solve my greatest problem! There's a disgusting smell in our living room and I can't figure it out. There's either a dirty muslin or nappy hidden somewhere or a puke in the carpet that's been missed. I've cleaned the carpet, the sofa and all the toys etc but it still reeks. Urgh. Plus now madam is trying to stop me getting complacent, 2 wakes since bedtime already!

Stormy what are you on at the moment? Some people struggle with the combined pill and moods etc but are absolutely fine on either another type of pill (Yasmin is usually pretty good) or a progesterone only option. The problem with progesterone only ones is that they take 3-6m to 'bed in' and you can have really irregular periods until then and for a small number of people they can cause bad skin and reduced libido but for some lucky folk their periods stop altogether with no side effects. As for non-hormonal options there's the copper coil or condoms. Copper coil is good in that its hormone free, fairly high on the list of reliability (not quite as high as perfect pill use or as mirena and implant) and can last around 7y depending on type, downsides are that it can make your periods heavier than normal, especially if this is something you usually suffer with.

Wors a nap and a swim sounds like a good option, there's always next week!

Oh yes, almost forgot, Leni go back to the Dr!

Eco if you're worried about the hourly pooing go to the Dr just to have DS checked over. Is it overnight too? What a nightmare!

Urrgggh long disappearing post. Summary: DH just taken to a&e with suspected appendicitis. I feel like a cow as I was completely unsympathetic when he was complaining of pain, and am only a little bit sympathetic now, which is horrible but all I can think is stat sick pay+stat maternity pay does NOT = mortgage repayments. Let alone food. Poor hubby married a selfish bitch :(

Going for bloods tomorrow. Had a wibbly walk to see a friend today, a cat with a funny face (an English something or other?) sniffed him a lot but as usual he didn't even look at him!

Eco, sorry to hear about the meltdown... Hormones are flipping mental. I'm still sweating like a pig and spontaneously bursting into tears here.

A whole rice portion went down for dinner today - and was swallowed!

I'm beyond tired though, OH has started trying it on lately and I basically feel repulsed by the very idea. Maybe because I feel physically shite and definitely because he's so totally unaffectionate the rest of the time

Well it was fine, thanks all! Only mornings this week and he was fine. It's a tiny rural school with far less than 50 children in the whole school (won't say how many or I may out myself) and he knows most of the children anyway. I managed to hold in any tears, but nearly broke when he was standing in his little class line with all his friends and turned to wave at me and DH, then just turned back and walked in line into is classroom. Sob!

Re: OBEM, I've not been able to watch that since I was about 25 weeks with DD! It was a great reminder (I'd not watched it since after I had DS) but I found it was getting a little too close for comfort so had to give it up

Hope we all have good nights sleep tonight...

VJ Oh no - poor DH. I hope it isn't serious.

Leni hopefully tomorrow will bring some answers and you will be back to your old self soon. DH will just have to grow up and be supportive. Men can be such ar5es at times.

SoYo have you checked the radiators? A slow drip on the floor can rot the carpet before you've noticed. My only other suggestion is a dead mouse in the cavity wall, but you might want to ignore I said that.

Blimey vj your poor DH! And I would feel the same as you I'm also an unsympathetic mare

leni it could be a number of reasons why your libido is in the dumps, tiredness definitely being one of them. I found that mine has gone up slightly since having the coil fitted the other week, simply because I don't have to worry about pregnancy now...

Argh, DD is crying Better go up. Night all.

KFF the mirena's a bit notorious for side effects, from what I've heard. Heavier periods sounds grim, but better than being a demented demon-lady all the time (as I seem to be).

eco and SoYo it's microgynon I'm on at the moment. Wasn't on anything at all when I met the man, and was sorting my head out and actually feeling pretty sane and non-depressed. Went onto cerazette when we got together, because the doctor wouldn't prescribe microgynon (I'm overweight, I'm a smoker, and my dad had a vascular embolism a few years ago, which was too many risk factors for that doctor's liking). I bled, very lightly, but non stop, for the entire nine months I was on cerazette, so reluctant to try that again even though it didn't seem to affect my head much. After DD was born, I started feeling like myself again for a few weeks, but then saw a different doctor who was happy for me to have microgynon again. And now my brain's going wonky again.

Anyway, I was reading a thread in FWR about the effects of hormonal contraceptives (and the fact we're basically just expected to put up with all manner of side effects so men can get their jollies in their preferred fashion) which made me think about it, and I mentioned it to the man, and his response was to ring the doctor and make an appointment to talk vasectomies. At which point I had a bit of a wibble because I really don't think I'm going to be happy stopping at one. He'd not realised non hormonal options exist (aside from condoms, which tend to give me thrush). "I'll get the snip," he said, "and if we win the lottery and can afford another I'll get it reversed." So I told him about my friend who's desperate for a baby but her boyfriend's had a bodged vasectomy that can't be reversed. Net result, we'll hold off on the vasectomy for a couple of years, and I'll go copper coil. Although we know full well it doesn't always work - my impending niece is proof of that.

I'm going to have to try this cold broccoli business, aren't I? I love broccoli, so no problems there, but the man is likely to think I'm trying to poison the baby.

vj nothing selfish about worrying about how to keep a roof over your head. If that was all you were worried about, you could be called selfish, but you're worried about him too, aren't you? Ergo not selfish, so stop fretting about that. How's he doing?

Hi all, stormy you're right, I'm worried about him as well, although not panicked as I know appendectomies are about as routine as they come. He's going into theatre some time this morning, and in the meantime I'm bracing myself for asking my parents to lend us some money if necessary. I know how lucky I am that my parents are in a position to lend, but that doesn't stop me from HATING to have to ask!

Stormy I'm not sure I'd have put you on microgynon either! It really isn't suiting you for many reasons.

If you we're happy on cerazette other than the irregular bleeding then side effects wise you'd be fine on mirena or implanon as its the same hormone, smaller dose in implanon, mini dose in mirena, and there's less chance of irregular bleeding but the chance is still there. I was the same as you on cerazette and it drove me bloody demented always being 'on' but I've never had a period with a mirena in. If you don't want to take that risk then definitely give the copper coil a go! Loads of people get on really well with it.

As for vasectomies you're very right to hold off! They're not actually designed to be able to be reversed so although sometimes it can be done easily, sometimes it's impossible and it's just luck of the draw how much scar tissue there is on the tube after the initial snip. Plus you have to go private for reversal so it'll cost.

Leni luckily my DH isn't trying it on I think he really is just about as knackered as me but I can't get myself back into the idea either. Hopefully it'll just come with time and more sleep. In the meantime give your DH a swift kick and remind him what your body has done over the last year and that he can't expect all to be as normal whenever he chooses!

VJ I'd be secretly annoyed too! Don't worry though, if its a straightforward appendix after its out he'll be out within 24-48hrs and back at work within a fortnight! Beans on toast for tea for a couple of weeks and all will be well again!

Cross post VJ! Good luck to DH and you too! I think a few days of sympathy are in order but no milking it like my DH always tries! Are your parents nearby enough to help you out with looking after the baby over the next few days while DH gets back on his feet? I hope it's a swift recovery and you don't have to ask the parents for money, I'm the same too, I hate it!!!

Yep my mum's only half an hour away, our best friends live 7 doors down, and we've got lots of other people offering help (including the lovely worse!) so we've got lots of support. To be honest, when he's home he'll be less able to make a mess for a while so it won't be too tough :)

Have you lot seen the BASTARD Mirena thread?! It's very funny.

I decided on the copper coil because I've had a history of reacting badly to various pills (can't remember if I've explained this on here before) and the thought of having a long-term hormonal device inside (this goes for the implant too, which I gather is very popular with young 'uns nowadays ) that I couldn't stop very easily filled me with dread.

I may even have given my little cooper coil a name Curly!

Update from weaning-nappy-land: I was disturbed to find tiny black specks in this morning's explosion. Then I remembered I gave her a bit of bread with poppy seeds in it yesterday.

Second update from weaning-nappy-land: avoid purees containing prunes, 3 explosive nappies so far today and a sleeping bag, vest, trousers and a t-shirt now soaking in vanish. Lovely!

Hey all, just a quick post. Dad ok and recovering. Weaning going good! I am a bit of a stickler for worrying about allergies so no meat, eggs, etc here til at least 7 months! Veg and fruit going well! Sweet potato and spinach a favourite. And apple and prune! Doc told me as long as madam has 20 ounces of milk a day then no need to worry. As I am still feeding her all apart from one bottle of about 4 ounces we will have to see what happens but at 7 months I doubt I'll ever get anywhere near 30 ounces in her if we need to go full on bottle!

Glad your dad's doing well, Eig. As for meat allergies... if DD ends upw with one of those she's buggered, we're rabid carnivores in this house!

Just gave her a bit of bread and cheese. Bread went down well, extra mature cheddar not so much, but it prompted a very entertaining face.

Appointment booked for pre-coil swabs on Tuesday. Mmm, internal scaffolding...

soyo and stormy i had the same problems if ongoing light bleeding with cerrazette and its still happening now im on mirena coil. is this why its is a very good contraceptive as you cant dtd when 'on' Maybe my body is not accepting any hormonal contraception. I was ok on microgynon but due to weight issues they wouldnt prescribe it to me. Looks like i need to make a trip the clinic for the copper coil.

vj hope the op goes well. Being on one salary stinks doesnt it. I got a shock when i looked at mu account last week.

I think weaning nappies are much better than formula ones. We always gauranteed a yellow leak left right and centre if we werent quick enough to change. Does anyone use the aldi nappies? I tried them this time but they dont last over night and the wee seeps through.

Had a great night last nigh only one wake up for a feed but a 5.45am wake up this morning ready for the day. Im not complaining for once.

Actually I'm quite looking forward to being on one salary - it's an improvement on none! Not entirely looking forward to the man's new job next week though. It's been a relatively easy ride so far with both of us at home, but as of next week I'll be full time mummying solo like the rest of you.

My last post got eaten. Much like the banana yoghurt, beef/pea/potato puree and anything else squishy DS can get hold of! So there's still a bit of tongue action at the start of each go, but then he remembers what to do and becomes frantic if I dare stop delivering. We've also moved up a teat size because he was taking hours for one 8oz bottle and therefore wasting loads. I've discovered Vital Baby pre-sterilised bottles (or bags) which made a whole feed disappear in about 2 minutes the other day but without the wind because the bag is like a vacuum. Really convenient when out too. Not that cheap but pretty reasonable just for out and about.

I think I've found a nanny too! A rock n roll friend who seems keen to do our required weird hours and who I know is great with kids. I feel relieved to say the least my one concern is that she was a smoker last time I saw her, which only really bothers me because I hate the smell. I was brought up in a smoking household abd I'm an ex-smoker so I'm in no way judgemental about it, other than I'm now hyper-sensitive to the lingering smell.

DS has just tried, and very nearly succeeded, in putting the entire dummy in his mouth. This worries me greatly

Leni could be time to go up a dummy size too?

Miss Madam has just fallen asleep on the sofa. It's bedtime in half an hour. She's far too snoozy to wake & she's not dressed for bed. What to do?

That's been happening here loads lately SoYo. By the way, my last post should've said 'Are beans on toast an official recovery aid after surgery?' DS is in just a nappy as his room's 29 degrees tonight.

These dummies are the Mam ones that say 0m+, are there bigger ones?