November 2012 - Is is too early for birthday plans?!

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1794169-November-2012-The-Adventure-Continues

Of course! Hi georgie!

ditsy weaning has proven a massive challenge with my P as well for similar reasons.

For weeks and weeks all she would tolerate were rice cakes, broccoli and baby sweet corn. I managed to get her to take a little purée by spreading it on the rice cakes. I also found an Ella's kitchen purée she liked to everything got mixed with that. Very, very slowly she has accepted spoon feeding. I know what you mean about fruit and veg - p is massively funny about texture and you can see her shudder when she touches certain things. I keep persevering and offering fruit sticks even though 100% ends up on the floor almost completely untouched. P has an egg allergy too so all my grand plans of using omelettes as a vehicle for all sorts of goodness has gone aray.

At the moment p has decided that spoons are the devil's work but wants very soft, non-challenging food. My solution has been to let her suck the stuff out of the EK pouches.

Although today she actually took 3/4 of a pouch by spoon alone so hopefully that has passed.

Cross post with Ditsy join the CMPI club with me, Pass, Det' Izzy, Mrswee, VQ, Stacks, BP and others (gosh there are lots of us!)

PR just (non acidic) you have a pissy few weeks hen.

Pass that makes me think of going back to school joys. I was such a nerd though I revelled in that first week of pristine pencil case perfection . I'm surprised you're only thinking of one baby as you are totes amazing with the small folk. Is it a worry about history repeating ie CMPI? My cousin's wife is expecting their second in September. Of our generation's 8 babies have CMPI and the other one didn't sleep until she was 3 (she soooooo had it too but her Mum couldn't handle battling with docs). My cousin's wife is desperately hoping that the fact this wee one isn't hiccuping in utero means she'll be reflux free but we all know its a slim hope. I know I'll be clinging onto a million and one such hopes....

Argh that should say 'you have HAD a pissy few weeks' sorry PR

Ooh it's lovely popping back! You're all talking about the things I worry about! I was feeling a bit alone with it all! I will hang around a bit more I think, on and off (work etc allowing) if you don't mind .

Sorry about your sleep problems ditsy - fingers crossed they were just a blip. It's a shock when things regress so much - I think your body gets used to certain state of affairs when it comes to sleep. James has always had problems settling himself, which is making things worse than they should be. His sister found her thumb pretty early but he doesn't really know what to do with himself when he wakes up so he shouts for me. I think I got him in bad habits early by feeding him to sleep. Oh well.

Right - might go to bed now to get a head start on him! Catch you all soon, you lovely lot. x

Sounds like a better night izzy I shall have a look at your thread after the girls are asleep if they ever go to bloody sleep

Hope the christening went ok bplp :)

The thought of a new baby YW is exciting :) And your work plans sound awesome not jealous at all
My friend was going to use a private midwife detective The overall cost was in the region of £3000 but I'm not sure how much business there is in it?

I am slowly realising that I would like another baby, but not for a couple of years. I still absolutely hate the newborn stage so doing that again fills me with dread, but it seems very short sighted to not have another for the sake of a few months of hell, when after that it should be fine. I would need an age gap of 3 years or so this time though. My mum was one of 3 and they had a lovely relationship, and my sister and I did everything with our cousin so most of my memories of childhood involve the 3 of us and it was a nice dynamic - a fair bit of bickering but mostly great fun!

StationEry

Anyhoo.

Thank you for saying I am totes amazing YW! That means a lot actually. Did I ever tell you all about a comment my sister made to me last time we got together? The adults were at the dining table and P and her cousin were in bouncers. P got upset until I went over and picked her up. I said "seems I have made a wee sook" and my sister said, all aghast "I know! And with you being the least cuddly person ever!" It made me sad

Anyway, the feeling of one only is certainly in part to do with CMPI and reflux although I do actually feel we got off lucky with P. I am just not sure I can muster the energy again and logistically I am not sure how it would work. We would need to move house and it could be a good few years still. I am currently 34 and not sure I want to be starting again at 38 or so. Meh. Who knows?

Doula - would love it. I'd be in my element. But it is self employed - same for an IM. With my situation as it is, I couldn't take the risk of self employment.

If I had a DP who could pay the bills if I was low on work etc, it would be thinkable. But I don't! :(

Also, it is quite possible that IM's will become illegal in October of this year, thanks to the Government forcing all HCP's to have indemnity insurance. Midwives can not get this independently. It is only available to NHS Trusts, covering the midwives who work for them.

Thus the Government have effectively removed choice for women.

Will not get on my rant!!!

The hiccuping thing is weird. P hiccuped all the time in utero - used to keep me awake. Now she hiccups when tired. I read a lot of anecdotal stuff when p first got poorly and in uterine hiccups is thought to be an early indicator of reflux. As is being very alert - wide open, shiny eyes - from birth. Everyone commented on how alert p was and these big shiny eyes. I have no idea what the link there is but I do remember finding this blog which listed 10 or so symptoms and unofficial indicators of reflux and p hit 9 out of 10.

Hiccups are fucking annoying.

DD1 hiccuped a lot in the womb. The first time was after a glass of champagne for my birthday and then again at new year's :o

Then from new year through to about three months post birth (she was born in March) she got a bout every day or two.

I wouldn't think the hiccups would be true - a lot of babies hiccup regularly in utero. I have to listen to them a lot ;)

DS1 hiccuped more than O. And obviously DS1 didn't have reflux!

O has never had hiccups ever since he was born. Which I find odd .

Both my girls hiccuped in utero but J did not.

Has anyone ever wondered if there is a link between reflux and the whooping cough jag we had?

J hiccups a lot, or at least did until the Domperidone.

Oscar had hiccups a lot in utero and tends to get a bout almost every day now. Usually when he is laughing too much. Pass, O was also very bright eyed and alert at birth. We got a lot of comments about it. Might post a pic on facebook a actually as I haven't posted anything for ooh...at least a few hours.

Anyway, I suspect that O did have some level of mild reflux - when he had to go to hospital at 5 weeks they said it was probably bronciolitis or reflux

I did wonder that VQ - every other mum you speak to at the moment has or knows someone with a refluxy baby.

Interesting interesting!

Good to know hiccups wouldn't be a defo indicator.

The whopping cough thing is very interesting.

I wonder if I could find that blog again?

Jonas had amazingly open owlish eyes from the moment he was born - everyone commented on it. My dietician put it down to homogenized milk, our generation's early weaning and the amount of processed dairy in day to day foods. I guess also its finally being diagnosed rather than just parking 'colicky' babies in their prams, out of earshot, at the end of the garden to cry.

I didn't have the jab!! Sorry .

I didn't have any jabs - whooping cough or flu jab.

I guess also its finally being diagnosed rather than just parking 'colicky' babies in their prams, out of earshot, at the end of the garden to cry.

^^This. Exactly.

When anyone tells me for the hundreth time how so many babies seem to have reflux and/or intolerance now complete with a face, this is my standard answer.

Can't believe it's Sunday night already! Four weeks left until I go back to work ( I kept getting a feeling of panic but I'm sure I'll be fine).

M loved lasagne, as evidenced on FB. She's also fallen asleep tonight folded in half, strange child

Watching Law and Order:UK, how fit is Paul Nicholls these days

Just popped in to give out hugs and

YW of the 2nd plan...I have been told April next year at earliest..

Just read through the last few posts... I had the WC jab, M had hiccups at least twice a day, if not more in utero (in fact she had them when I was 10cm and pushing) and she was v bright eyed and alert and she's had no reflux problems at all. That I've noticed anyway.
But I know that anecdote doesn't equal data.
There does seem to be a large concentration of refluxy babies in the November group

Our relationship is far too unstable to have another baby just now. But then, it was too unstable to have M really and she is amazing....

Can't find that blog. Ah well. Does seem an unusually high concentration of reflux peeps but I sometimes wonder if it is sort of chicken and egg kind of thing. You know, someone gets a proper diagnosis, someone else reckons their LO has he same, gets diagnosis and so on.

I am v. jealous of the second baby talk. I'm about ready to think about number 4 but DH says no way. Maybe we should get that five-bedroom house after all...