November 2012 - Is is too early for birthday plans?!

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Jonas' ongoing nap is over 1 hr and 20 mins - unprecedented of late - he's a 45 minute precisely boy. I put him in the cot thinking that'll wake him but no - he's still going. Growth spurt? He has five minutes more and I'm waking him as I want him to sleep tonight. Sigh you get used to a pattern and the little buggers change it

Woke him up after 4 hours. Wow! He is very chilled

PR thinking of you x

Evil I hope LO is a bit brighter today x

Herrow! Felt odd this morning posting a small post! Was very busy but wanted to check in to prove I was indeed alive didn't feel it

We had 6:40 as morning but he was woken up by the idiot dogs!

I do think it sounded like a better night for you last night izzy from what you've written about previous nights!

vq that's a nap and a half from j!!! And one from o det!

E keeps having early mornings and I think it must be the brightness most of the time, blackout blind will apparently be here tomorrow though :)

Sorry, still haven't caught up properly, had a busy day and I'm posting and watching e and I keep getting distracted because despite not being able to crawl he bloody well finds the wires easily enough!!!

What about becoming a doula Detective?

J had a good long nap as well, I didn't time it but it was definitely two hours or more. He woke up in a great mood.

We spent all day tidying as we had a viewing today. I don't think the lady was very interested. We have another viewing on Tuesday and then I'm going to say no more. We have two offers on the house at the moment so hopefully one of these will happen otherwise I'm taking the house off the market and doing the extension instead.

A 4 hour nap vq!! Wow!!

Yeah it was a better night. I think I need to move to FF but I'm really nervous about it!

How many bottles should he be gaming if he's not on solids? How often? And how many tubs am I likely to have to take away with me?!? That's the tricky part also, we're away for two weeks!

O has two naps, 30 min in the morning and 2 hours in the afternoon. If she has these two than sleeps through if any of them is shorter than she wakes.

det doula is a good option. I had one, she was amazing. Though it's time consuming, I was in labour for 25 hours and she stayed most of it plus an additional 3 after birth. Not sure if it's worth financially though, my doula works as a maternity nurse most of the time and only takes one birth on once a month (as she has to be on stand by 2 weeks before and after birth).

Can anyone help me with my switching to formula thread?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/breast_and_bottle_feeding/1808185-Switching-to-formula-how-do-I-go-about-it?msgid=40421216#40421216

Izzy J has between 40 and 50 oz a day if not eating solids and well. I am hoping this will drop when he is eating properly. A tub can last 2 days so you need to be taking 8 I reckon.

My stomach hurts. Like it did before the ulcers. I'm terrified. Haven't taken any nsaids though and they said they wouldn't come back if I didn't take nsaids. Am seeing gp tomorrow evening if DH can get out of work early. It must just be acid right? Or heat induced nausea? I can't risk another ulcer.

That should have said 'and is well'.

I am not surprised PR. can you take an antacid to ease it?

Yeah I've got inexium. Was trying to wean myself off it. Seeing the gastro consultant next week.

Now is not the time to be weaning yourself off it PR. take it if you feel it is appropriate, although I have never heard of it.

Izzy I cannot get your linkey to work but it may be the app as cannot get on the thread any other way.

Can you take the electric bit off the pump and use it as a manual? I think an electric pump will be too good at stimulating your supply. I have a manual if you want to borrow it.

As to how often he feeds, I think if you offer a bottle every 4 hours or when he seems hungry.

I would also just go cold turkey with him and feeding otherwise I think it would give him a reason to not have the formula. Try to decide when your last feed is with him to really enjoy it, or decide after a lovely peaceful feed to end on a high note. I also think go to neat neocate as why prolong it? The whole point of swapping to formula is to remove the bm from the equation.

I understand how hard this is, but remember you have fed him for 3 months longer than me and it has largely been a positive experience.

I would have another baby tomorrow, but my sensible head says no. I have been mulling over the future a lot today and really don't know what I want. I will be waiting at least 3 years though before considering another. Probably 5+

Yay for super-napping babies! In the last few days that M has been sleeping through (12hrs for the past 3 nights people!!) she has been having a longish 1.5 - 2.5 hour sleep around midday. That is all she sleeps during the day though.

Hope all is okay PR - I bet you anything it is your current stressful situation causing excess stomach acid. FXd it is nothing though.

I also hope BP and wee F had a cracking day!

I have had nightmares when I am pregnant again. Three is more than enough for me. There is not an ounce of me that is broody. I did however feel a bit soppy when I saw a baby in a Silver Cross carriage built pram today. I will have of them for my grandchildren, although pushing that and a zimmer may be tricky.

My mum has my old silver cross pram for M. As far as I know she has not used it yet

MM I have six years between DS2 and J and it is brilliant. DS2 was well settled at school when J arrived so he was quite secure (he was a bit jealous at first) and I had all day at home with J so only one child to manage. DS2 is old enough to dress himself, put on the tv, doesn't need any help eating etc. He will also mind J for me in the morning so I can have a shower, and he's happy to play with him and sing to him. I have a gap of 3.5 years between DS1 and DS2 and it was a lot more difficult to manage. So I can recommend a gap of five years plus if it suits you for other reasons as well.

NEW THREAD: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1808232-November-2012-Summertime-and-the-babies-are-sleeping-mostly-with-a-few-notable-exceptions

Evening chappetes.

PR I am also not surprised that you are feeling dreadful. Personally, I would wait until you have seen the doc before changing anything meds wise.

Hi-5 for all the fabulous napsters! Amazing! P's routine has massively gone to shit with her random 5am wakings so her naps are all over the place as well. Immediately prior to that she was napping twice a day both for 1 hr 17 minutes. Yes really.

We were at the safari park today and I heard and newborn cry and it actually made me want to double over. Almost like my womb was contracting or something. I remember having a similarly physical response to babies when I was about 16. I also feel a pang when I see people with two. I am almost certain I don't want another but I do worry on p missing out. I am very excited though to hear of operation welliesconception!

Hope you had a lovely day BP.

Oo. Yesterday, after our curry lunch I bought an obscene amount of stationary. New pencil case, several automatic pencils and many lovely gel pens in shades of purple. Also a black one for signing letters. I got a bit excited about going back to work. There was a little girl standing next to me ooing and aahing at all the same stuff as me. Her dad was all "Louise, don't you already have a pencils case which is full of pens and pencils?" The girl and I both stopped our rummaging and looked at him all Silly man.

Thanks for the welcomes everyone. It's nice to be back!
Georgee I think we are going through an 8 month sleep regression here. 8 out of the last 11 nights have had F waking up at some point in the night and staying awake for 1-2 hours. I'm not sure if its to do with moving as he has been crawling since 6.5 months, but its out of character for him to wake up so consistently, usually he is a good sleeper. So like you I am struggling alot. He slept through last night so I'm keeping all my fingers crossed that this will be the end of it, but I think I may be sadly disappointed.
Apart from sleep regression, we are doing ok. I have to admit I find it tough at times. F has a milk allergy and so we are on neocate but I am finding it makes weaning hard. He won't take purees and is fussy about which finger foods he likes so fruit and veg is proving hard to get into him in favour of bread and pasta and potato!
Det I had a Doula too and she was amazing - definitely a great profession but as previously said, she was with me alot over the period of a 40 hour labour followed by a c-section and so actually the wage per hour probably doesn't work out that fab!

Another pregnancy features heavily in my nightmares too. Inexium is a ppi, I have been on it since my ulcer incident, but the last few months have been cutting down. I've popped myself on it again and am going to ask the gp tomorrow for something to help me sleep and maybe some kind of anti depressant. You'll be able to shake me and I'll rattle :)

The last few weeks have taken it out of me. I'm not cut out for battles like I used to be. They knew that too. I just can't handle stress anymore.

MM sounds like she has moved onto the one big 'toddler' midday nap - I think we're heading that way here though things have felt a bit growth spurty the last couple of days and that always clouds the waters. This is the first growth spurt where he seems to be tanking up on solids not BM - in fact he is down to 4 feeds a day now and my boobs are often porn star esque with unnommed supply .

When you say future have you been mulling over work options? - FX on the role you applied for. I think I'm sorted plan wise in terms of freelance and having a second baby but there's a lot of uncertainty too - there's no knowing how long it'll take to get updiffed and no certainty of the volume of work from my clients so it could all go Pete Tong. You've got a lot more to think about at 21 than I did but you handle it so well. I'm glad M is sleeping through (now the 'helpful' Daddy bottles have been banned) it's become the norm not the exception here too - so no doubt we're due a regression to royally fuck it up!

This weekend he's cracked backwards crawling. Poor Mr Cat is going to get a shock soon.

Izzy listen to VQ and Det wise they is. I think cold turkey for J so as not to confuse things and just a bit of manual pumping to ease your discomfort could be fairest. Lugging 8 tubs of formula on holiday does sound like a PITA though but its not really a reason to delay sorting stuff. Especially as he slept so much better on the neocate. For decent sleep I think it'd be a small price to pay. And hey it might be he's waiting on tapas for his solids!

You might be joking yw but izzy 's LO might just decide that new surroundings might be the time to try new things. They do funny things on holiday.