DECEMBER 2012: The start of crawling and the end of maternity leave

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Great news ispy. Everyone keeps warning me about all the hospital visits we have to come as boys are so fearless, eek!!

That's fantastic news Ispy.

I am still solo parenting here, DP has now worked 12.5h and still isn't home. I was up all night, DS has screamed all day. But don't worry it's okay DP has tomorrow off work... and will apparently be spending it at football. The standard 6 hours for one match.

The football season hasn't even started yet surely?
That's really crap Willyou I bet you're furious?

What has dh said when you've gone mental had a civil conversation about him possibly staying home so you can have a break/ a family day?

Training has started but no matches yet here...or is there a friendly on tv? I hate bloody football.

WillYou can your mum help out or mil haha I would be really annoyed if I were you but I've found out through experience that telling dp WL three of us are crying and I can't cope does not = please don't go to football. Apparently you have to spell it out to them

He's playing a friendly I think. I've read him the fucking riot act discussed it with him. He said he won't go, I've told him I don't give a fuck what he does. He's currently experiencing a little of what my day has been like. He's trying to get DS to drink a bottle (still not had one today) and he's screaming blue murder. I'm going to end up in A&E tomorrow with a dehydrated baby but there's nothing I can do as he won't drink from a bottle and is taking but spitting out anything given from a cup.

I'm lying in the spare room hiding as I can't be arsed with bottle making/washing up/bringing in all the shit from the garden. Meh!

Mum or MiL probably would help out but I want to keep an eye on him now as he could so easily end up really poorly in this heat.

ddas I can see both points having had a ff baby and 2 bf babies. Feeding a baby is always a lovely intimate bonding experience and I know DH/dm/mil have missed that when I've been bfing, but I do think it can be said that bfing can be a source of comfort in a way that perhaps a bottle can't. The bottle however can be replaced by the comforting special cuddle of mummy/daddy etc. if my bf baby is sad for whatever reason I would be quick to offer a boob whereas I wouldn't have offered a bottle to my ff baby unless it was nearing a feed time. I would of course give her a cuddle in a way that I would know she would find comforting. I'm sure the original comment was not meant to infer better or worse, just different.

willyou that sounds awful. Poor you and ds. Could you try giving him water (or milk) in a syringe so its only a little at a time or a clean wet flannel to suck on? Seriously if you think he's getting dehydrated do get him checked out asap. Maybe he's got a sore throat making it hard for him to swallow.

WillYou is he taking any liquid at all? Even if you could syringe a bit it would help? Or drink from a proper cup in front of him and he might want a go?

Dp is going out tonight...wish I was but he isn't working tomorrow. He's been outside all week in the sun so wants a break and to clean the bathroom

He had a little water from my sports bottle and just took a bottle from DP. I can't syringe it in as he won't open his mouth for the syringe. It's hurting his gums to suck and yesterday he had a really sore throat and now that it's better wont swallow. I gave him very milky weetabix and very milky cheesy pasta too. Hopefully he'll wake in the night for a bottle

I pacify my baby by shoving a boob in his mouth. Bottle feeding mamas pacify their babies in other ways. I call that different

Heloooo ladies! I'm having a little tipple as its far too hot! Plus all the stress of buying the house we currently rent I think deserves a little drink! May go and join the drunk thread in a while

Ooo jealous Emily! Be careful in this heat though old before my time!

I've just had a very risky half a small glass of wine!

Oh no willyou.. I've found that cold yogurts and cold fruit pots are acceptable when all else is refused-wonder if the cold soothes sore throats and gums and maybe a fruit pot would help with hydration?
Do you have any baby juice? I know people say not to give it as they'll never drink water etc but ds has definitely shown more interest in that this week which I've been glad about with the heat. Will tackle the water / juice thing when it's not so damn hot!
Will he suck anything frozen? (Ds has been v interested in calippos...) maybe frozen baby juice or home made frozen fruit purée? Clutching at straws?!!

Glass of rose on the go here cheers all! I'm also white trashing it up with my feet in a bucket! Soooo glad I'm not pregnant! although even after today I'm still broody

He ate all his food just barely any drinks. There was 3oz of milk on his weetabix though and 3 on his pasta. He sucked 2 ice cubes (I held them so not a choking hazard). I tried an ice pop but he wouldn't have it. Maybe once his room drops below 30 he'll wake up for a nice drink.

Not tried baby juice Maryland what is it?

Woo-hoo, got Ts room down to a chilly 27! I tried an experiment today - keeping all windows and curtains closed til 7pm then opening everything up - Ts room was still 29 where I think it might have been 30 but it does seem to have cooled down faster so maybe less absorbed heat to lose? Will try again tom in the hope that if it starts off cooler it will end cooler.

Just browsing mn while doing the dream feed - goodness some mners can be mean!

Give the babies an extra squeeze tonight - DH just been talking about our 2 mcs (he's worried about a colleague who's told everyone his dw is 6 weeks pg, history of mc and fertility probs).

That should say DH and I.

I always feel like that about people who do a 4 week fb anboucement WL. My lovely friend had to deliver a baby with very bad spina bifida Nov 11. So we didn't announce DS until I was 20weeks and had my scan. Even then I didn't truly believe we'd get a baby until they handed him to me. And that was without any previous losses. Noone tells you how hard it is to have a baby until you start trying and then the horror stories come out of the woodwork.

Oh it's not clear from last post, unfortunately Dfriends baby was not able to survive.

Willyou baby juice is essentially over priced cordial (!). I think Heinz make it. I have given ds v watered down orange juice before but that's before teeth.

So true that you don't know how hard it is to get pregnant until you're desperate for a baby! I had 9 pregnant friends whilst trying to be patient after mc- it was awful! Totally selfish but I found it harder and harder to be happy for people!
We didn't tell people for ages either- we have a friend who had to deliver a baby who inexplicably died at 19 weeks pregnant

Oh Maryland your poor friend.. I was utterly paranoid aboutO while I was pg - that something would go wrong before or during birth. I'm sure I'll be just as bad if we manage to get the next one on the go in autumn.

My mum lost my sister at 28 weeks so I was always paranoid too. Especially as I had the coil in with ds. I also hate the uploading of scan photos it's so insensitive you never know who's just lost a baby or has been trying for years to get pregnant.

Both my children are up for the day I'm going to go back to bed when ds has his nap!