November 2012 - Crawling? Already? Uh-oh!

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1779903-November-2012-The-weaning-adventure-continues

oh bplp - I'm not sure I'd have told you shed cried alllll day? poor mite.hope she's well. and hope you're ok. that sounds like a tough day.

I'm sorry I've missed some posts on Fred. sorry to hear of illness vq

happy birthday to your lo bry!

R has had a really lovely day and is in bed now. Hoping g will flake out soon too so I can clear up all the debris.

Bplp that is rotten - I feel really sad for you. I hope she feels better tomorrow and settles a bit.

Clarella I'm sorry you feel so sad. Big hug. No fish. Is it worth checking in with the Gp to check the thyroid is under control?

I'm up and down bry thanks. reading Fred stuff helps.

thyroid stuff is slow, I've got to be patient as it adjusts. put dose up on Friday again should take a week or so. it's a drag as when it wobbles I even notice my muscles are weaker. the worst is the lack of focus and concentration.

lo waking every 20 min seems v windy. sooo sweet that he giggled to himself about a fart he did in bath! I'm sure I'll be sick of such stuff in future but was so cute tonight! made him seem so grown up!

Can only echo what YW Clarella Sunt are saying. GP is talking out their arsehole.

I'm a bit of a stroppy mare understatement so don't necessarily take my advice, as I stropped off to A&E and have basically demanded every treatment we have tried thanks to YW and her amazing knowledge and VQ for telling me Pepti 1 had lactose in! until we got the right combination.

What I would certainly do is not be giving the potential allergens, as Stunt says, next time (or any subsequent time) could lead to an anaphylactic shock. The GP is irresponsible. Actually, downright dangerous to be suggesting such a thing. If I did that in my line of work (giving dangerous advice) I'd be up in front of the NMC and suspended from work! Isn't that right fellow NHS employees?!

Once shit stops breaking in my world I am going to find the time to push for an allergy test. I don't care if it is private or NHS, I want peace of mind. I certainly want it testing before I ever give him dairy again!

BP Fuck. I thought it was an unwritten rule that CM's/nurseries don't tell mummies they have been crying all day?! If it helps, O cries all day sometimes regardless of where he is?

I think though, that it is normal for them to do that, it will take time for her to settle. It will get better, I promise. She will learn that mummy comes back. She will not be harmed in any way. It's just horrible to go through at the moment. Sending lots of hugs and your way.

BP I like to think that one day, my shit will stop breaking.

It isn't going to happen, is it? Should have stayed renting!!

Oh pig that made me feel very for you and F. But the first day is going to be the worst. She knows now that you will be coming back for her tomorrow.

On a positive note, checked my rota for Christmas and I'm not working Christmas day . Fifth year in a row (this is unheard of, and makes me stoopidly lucky). Will probably be condemned to work every Christmas for eternity thereafter.

It's quite common I think for babies to find the transition difficult the first few days pig

I also wonder what you said to get deleted. I figured MNHQ wouldn't bother reading our threads so maybe you were reported? Or maybe they meant to push the red button on another poster and got mixed up?

I'm going to work this year BP! I figured I want next year when he is 2 off! We have to work every other as a minimum. And to get Christmas day off, you have all the shit around it, eg. late xmas eve, early boxing day, late new years eve, early new years day etc.....

I am working boxing day....but hey ho.

PR I think it was just one of my usual waffley posts!? Not even a ranty sweary one.

BP They keep a record at MNHQ! Send a message and ask why!

Surely they must have got confuzzled?!

I even found this flow chart for cmpi etc on the web (again downloads immediately. Google 'cmpi eastern and coastal Kent' to find it)

has clear guidelines etc which should be followed.

www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDMQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easternandcoastalkent.nhs.uk%2FEasySiteWeb%2FGatewayLink.aspx%3FalId%3D184052&ei=GNvRUcyYMoyy7AaRzYDoBg&usg=AFQjCNHq7V5Y0_qSFNvlWCE483t19eY2Cw&sig2=f7v8IKkvMxlsOPe8VBJxIg

sorry shit link

I think feeling sad with all that's happened in your life if only natural lily and you're right that its not the same as being depressed. Are you going to groups or similar to try and meet people?

Good luck with the loan sophia Sounds Iike you've done everything right.

I make up 24 hours worth of feeds chasing I just make sure I cool them quickly and store in the back of the fridge. I cheated last night and got on of those big bottle of ready made stuff. I have so much to do on a Sunday night that anything that makes it easier is fine by me. I'd love to do that every night but they are sooo expensive.

:( bplp Poor F, but she'll soon settle, and the snot fountain can't have helped. I can imagine that dealing with fatals once you're a parent must be a whole different ball game. Every parents' worst nightmare :(

((Hugs)) clarella Take care of yourself and head to the GP if you feel you're sinking.

N is finally asleep (settled herself ^in her cot^ for the second night in a row) so I'm off to make bottles, eat, tidy and do some studying before heading to bed as early as possible. The day seems to start at 5.30 in this at the moment.

I'm wondering if O will ever self settle again kirrin. He has done it lots of times, but he will do it for a short while, then just stops. No idea why.

GRRR! I hate rocking him to sleep because he suddenly grows 6 extra limbs .

Evening guys! Pissed off that my dickish phone ate my post earlier so i'm gonna go right back from where I left off not that that's new! Before I start though can I ask what you all do at bed time? I had a pretty good routine going but since E is eating quite a bit more in the way of solids i'm finding evenings hard work with fitting it all in! He has a bottle at 3, then dinner anywhere between 5 and 6, then a bottle at 7, then bath and bed at 8, only it all seems too squashed up and i've been putting off giving him much for tea time in case he doesn't drink his bottle at 7. So tonight I thought i'd give him tea when he woke up (6 today) then bath, then he had his bottle at 7:30, was done at 7:45 so I put him to bed. Only he's still awake. He's normally asleep within minutes and I don't want to mess things up trying something that doesn't work. Is bath/bottle/bed more sensible or bottle/bath/bed? Thanks guys

I'm glad you mostly seem to like my epic posting, I have a feeling I'll continue with epic posting when my phone eats sodding posts and I have so much to catch up on!

Glad you had a nice day the other day Eliza :) and that you feel more hoomin now!

I also need a hair cut and wanted to go for a mess it up and be done type style but I always regret it when I have my hair cut! I think I suit long hair more anyway tbh. Not that I suit any hair but long seems better!

I also miss lots of people, i'm glad some of them still come on the facebook page though like garden :) but I miss dh21 and nervous and charlee and mumma and there are many more!

Bear with me guys i'm trying to keep this one a bit shorter whilst not missing people out!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY R!!! Bryz hope she's had a lovely day :D I also hope you manage to get the allergy testing brought forward a bit :)

Flicking hell izzy that's one awful night :( I wish I could literally give you some sleepy dust, you sound like you really need some and deserve some too!

I do love being a sahm but if/when i do get back into the working malarkey i've been giving serious consideration to going for midwifery. Only i am pretty confident i lack the people skillz necessary! For now though i'm enjoying my boy :)

lily hugs, o is very lucky to have you, and you seem such a very strong person

pr plan WILL work!

sending virtual hand holdings your way sophia, i hope they don't say no :)

I quite like the idea of being a mouldy shoe guys :D Madame I don't mean to put myself down but it seems to be the way I am, I can't possibly allow myself to think positively about me. I always look at dp and wonder why on earth he's still with me, and I really don't know what I ever did to deserve such a beautiful little boy. I think the only things I can say about myself with certainty is I am honest, and short :D

stunt e loves jelly!! I get what you mean, it's almost like once they know nice things come from the spoon contraption, they will eat or at least try some things. I am finding eric refuses point blank much less often than he used to! He does still sometimes only accept a couple of spoons but quite often eats a fair bit!

Speaking of weaning, jelly and EK and amounts.... What EK do peoples babies like? Also is it awful for one meal to be a shop bought something at this stage? Also do both dinner and tea need puddings? What is 'normal' for amounts? Eric will clear 150g porridge then 100g fruit pouch for breakfast with a slice of toast, then 190g pot and 50g yoghurt for lunch with some rice cakes then 130g pouch and more fruit or yoghurt and some of what we have for finger food for example. No idea if this is 'enough' or not? :S

chasing I do them 24 hourly, I make them up at night time, after he has gone to bed. As long as all bottles are consumed in the 24 hours and are stored properly and made up safely i think it is fine.

Sounds like you had a shitty night too det, and i'd be quite upset re: the comment at baby group but I'd like to think they didn't mean it that way. However it's how my sister manages to get most of her digs in, so i'd probably end up feeling quite pissed off tbh

donkey sperm! I must've read the last bit too fast.... ahh i see! LOL!

oh clarella consider yourself slapped, but also hugged. Just because everything seems perfect doesn't mean you have to feel on top of the world - i always kick myself for feeling blue though when i think that it could be so much worse

stacks i don't know much about intolerances etc, only what i read from people on here, but please do listen to them, i know the gp is a gp, but this lot are fab and really know their stuff :) Sorry just didn't want you to think i was ignoring your posts, i jsut have nothing as good as everyone else has to say!

oh bugger bplp so f didn't have the best day then? Poor little sausage, hope she's not poorly and fingers muchos crossed that she has a better day tomorrow! I am sure she will settle once she gets used to it though :) like det says sometimes e has a really whingy sad day for no apparent reason (i usually blame teething though don't usually know what is wrong ). Glad work was ok, but sad that someone died :( Being a mummy now hearing such things always makes me think of it from their parents pov, obviously it's awful that they are dead but it's really awful for the people they've left behind if that makes sense :(

Fucksticks he fell asleep whilst i was writing this and has woken and he never wakes these days :S

See, I always feel ashamed at how much I miss out when I see your post Kyz! You put me to shame!

BUT! I can now reply to anything I've missed!

Sooooo!

Happy birthday R! I hope she had a lovely day. :)

Stunt yes we have tried jelly, and he loved it! He hasn't had more than a taste, but it was a mmm mmmm mmmmmmmm mooooooore noise that emitted out of him. :) I'm lucky in that he takes a spoon, and will take some finger foods too. But getting him to pick the finger foods and put them in his mouth is another challenge...!

Kyz We do bottle then bed here (baths are an as and when thing really). But if the other way works for you, don't change it unless you want to! If it ain't broke, don't fix it .

Chasing I do 24 hours worth at bedtime. Back of fridge, and away we go. :)

Lily I am in awe of you. Such a strong lady. O is so lucky to have such an awesome mummy :)

Oh and, if what you say on here is anything to go by kyz you have more people skills than many people I know work with. Go for it while you can!

kyz O has his tea at 5-5.30, bath at 6 and then bottle and bed by 7. Bottle/bath/bed wouldn't work here, only because he feeds to sleep at night. And for most naps actually. Oh well, beats rocking him and I haven't got the energy to tackle self settling at the moment.

Tea today was salmon, couscous and green beans. Beans ate BLW style and couscous & salmon spoon fed. I think he liked the sensation of the couscous

I am trying to find an oven online. Not going too well....

Hi everyone, so sorry I haven't posted on the fred very much. It has been a very stressful few days since Thursday and this is the first time I have had more than 5 minutes hopefully to sit down and have a wee nose. SO apologies if I miss anyone's news, I am literally skim reading to catch up!

VQ I look up to you (like everyone else it seems) and really admire how motherly and wonderful you are, despite all the crap that is being thrown your way. You deserve so much better and I really, sincerely hope that things start looking up for you soon. xo

Hair: I had my hair cut today. Second time since M was born. Third time in a year . I do not blowdry my hair. I have half straightened it once in 2.5 years. I just do not have time to do anything with it. A good hair day for me is when it has been brushed or does not contain baby vomit. Both is a miracle.

Sending bryzoan 's gorgeous girl lots and lots of birthday wishes for a fantastic year. She is also very lucky to have such an amazing mummy!

Izzy I can only begin to relate to what you are going through. I only had 4/5 months of serious sleepdodging, you have had far too long. I also know that nothing can be said in this situation to make you feel better about it, but just know I am virtually holding your hand and willing J to let you sleep.

SAHM: I went back to work when M was 10 weeks. Says it all really. I adore her, I adore spending time with her, I adore watching her grow and learn and live. I do not adore being at home all the time. Working when I choose really does give me the best of both worlds and I thank my lucky stars every day.

I am in North Queensferry. I am a troll and live under the bridge!

Stunt definitely fill it with gin. Mmmmm

I am being summoned. Will take a break here and finish my post later!

what kinda oven are you looking for Detective? Also, don't be ashamed, just take note of the fact you're not the sad act sat with two windows open on a laptop used only for MN these days to make sure nobody is missed and an epic post is written! :P

Get me, I worked out what the grill bit does on ours the other day when E had bagel!

Anyway...

I want to change it to bath, bottle, bed, because then he's more likely to drink his bottle if it's a little later than it currently is. He didn't wake after all just murmured, and seems to be asleep still, so we'll see! It's just when he has a bottle at 3, he won't eat until about 5 but usually wants to be back asleep then and if I try to keep him up he just cries at me and doesn't eat very happily! So he has a nap, usually half an hour, and then i feed him but it can be as late as 6 and then when his bottle is at 7 and he's just eaten quite a bit of solids he isn't keen on the idea of a full bottle but it's his bedtime one and i want him to keep sleeping through so want him to drink the bloody thing! Tbh I think I need to stop letting him go to sleep so late in the day somehow - i'm really not sure how but when he wakes up at 6pm after 2 hours asleep, going to bed at 7:45 really wasn't going to work was it!?

and shucks thankyou for the compliment detective, i'm not sure i deserve it but i do appreciate it! I might pluck up the courage to look into it, maybe :)

chasing not tried couscous here but i might give it a whirl :) sounds like o is doing fab with his eating now! Nothing wrong with feeding to sleep imo, if it means he does sleep and you have to do it. It's something I want to avoid if possible if we do move to bath/bottle/bed BUT I wouldn't count it as the end of the world :) Definitely beats rocking him!

kyz Personally I think bath/bottle/bed makes more sense. E's evening routine is:
Dinner 5.30/6ish
Bath 6.30/7ish
Tube feed 7ish
Bf 7/7.30ish
Bed
Where I do the tube & bf is where a bottle feed would be.
Re the food amounts, what you listed looks pretty good to me. And I don't hink it's awful to have shop bought as meals. I try to give homemade as much as possible but on holiday every meal came out of a pouch/jar and some have been since we've been back too. I've not had time to batch cook since I've been back. Must do that this week! Anyway, the EK's that have been a hit with E are, the cheery chicken dinner one, lamb roast, pork roast, any of the brekkie ones particualry the mango one and she also likes the fruit smoothies just called the red one.
It did make me giggle that you call them dinner and tea. I call it lunch and dinner and reguarly have lighthearted arguements with my bristonian friend that dinner is an evening meal not a day time meal. Anyway I digress....At the moment E only has pudding after her evening meal. The dietician said I should try and do a pudding at her lunch meal too where possible but to be honest sometimes I just don't have the time. But I'm not sure if she advised that due to E's weight/eating issues or if that's the advised thing for all babies that age.
Hope that helps a bit.

bplp I'm so sorry today wasn't what you hoped for for F. If it's any consolation E has been a right fuss bag today and like detective said I don't think it would have mattered who she was with and what she was doing, she just wanted to winge. But I can't believe the cm actually said that to you. I would hvae though a bit of a white lie from her to ease your worry would have helped ease your concerns. F will settle fine. I know plenty of kids who adore there cm's and I'm sure F will get there in time.
I too wondered why your post was deleted. I remember another poster asked for there post to be deleted as it contained the name of their DD. I wondered if you'd done something similar but now I know it wasn't that I'm even more intreguied.

pr Sorry your sleep training has gone to shit before it's even started. It sounded like such a good plan too. Hope it all get's back on track.

chasing I too made feeds up for 12 hours, however was considering going to 24 hours and glad to see that's what other quiche members do. I will follow suit and change. Will save me much time.

clarella No fish from me, just hugs. Hope you are ok x

Omg I hate having a cold. I'd say I need to man up, but I am better than most men at having colds. Off to bed. Routine worked for LO but not for DD1. She refusd to eat til daddy came home. At 10 because of leaving drinks for some colleague. Tomorrow is another day.

No answer received today btw. Grrr.

Night quiche.

Thanks eliza that's really helpful :) E so far has tried the cheesey vegetable one, the chicken and sweetcorn with creamy mash? i think one, and the lamb roast one. He loves the cheesey veg one, wouldn't even begin to entertain the sweetcorn one and I honestly thought he would hate the lamb one as it's quite savoury and he started off a bit wobbly but ate every bit :)

I need to batch cook some more things but I just tend to not have much time at lunc time so he tends to be having something pouchy. I haven't tried the breakfast ones or the smoothie ones but I will give them a go, he had a fruit pouch this morning that he slurped up and loved and he loves the organix pots.

Sorry all I keep posting but I very rarely get the laptop out and it's so much easier to post on here I think i'm getting a bit carried away!

Ahhh I knew I missed something. I might take your tip kyz and have 2 windows on my laptop open... I wondered how you did it!

Anyway what I have been meaning to say all day is Big Happy Birthday wishes to the lovely R and her lovely mummy bry. I'm so glad she enjoyed her day.

Oh and I'm not sure if I have officially welcomed stacks so welcome to the lovely quiche.