March 2013 - gurgles, giggles and going on holiday (for some of us at least!)

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Soyo- have you had a look at the poddle pod? (I know I sound likeim working on commission but honestly, it's just great!) we've never had huge transfer problems but those we did have seem to have been solved by using this - seems to make her feel like she's still being cuddled?

I'm still all over the place. Haven't managed to get her on the boob at all since 4am. It's self perpetuating, the more she refuses, the more I have to give her a bottle, the more she wants a bottle. Think we really are done now, the misery it's causing is really not fair on either of us. But every time I think about never bfing her again it makes me cry (although it makes me cry less than trying to get her to bf!) DH reckons (and he's probably right) that now that I've made the decision I'll feel better after a few days.

So-advice on winding down the boobs without mastitis. At the mo I'm expressing twice a day (getting about 8oz a time) and managing to persuade her on the boob in the middle of the night. Should I a)try to space the expressing out more and more or b) express more often, but only a tiny bit at a time just to relieve discomfort?

OH is uncut but I've experienced both - think I prefer uncut (if clean of course!).

Lots of wide-eyed-wobbly-headed watching of Wimbledon here. DS's face is so different depending on what he's doing, it's weird. He's trying very hard to talk too

DF is coming to visit tomorrow so I intend to use him fully by showering/packing/doing my tax return . He habitually turns up and wants coffee/feeding but never offers to wash up or do much other than sit on his arse (he had a heart attack followed by a double bypass ten years ago now but still goes on about it as if it were yesterday and all subjects lead back to it). So he can sit on his arse and entertain DS whilst I get on with things

I would express only just enough to make you feel comfortable. Sorry you've had such a tough time of things x

I'm afraid MiniWing had no more advice than what has already been given by the older and wiser Minis but I'm sure I saw her taking notes when she thought I wasn't watching

vj I hope it all settles down for you soon in the boob department and you manage to wind down without any side effects. It'll all come to us eventually so I shall be paying attention to the advice you get. Can you ask an HV too?

Leni DD loves Wimbledon here too I remember DS loving the Formula 1 races and cricket too when he was tiny. It must be the repetitive motion and lots of green too.

And Ood, yes Julia Donaldson it is! "My house is a squash and a squeeze!" I have recently discovered [[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Snail-Whale-Julia-Donaldson/dp/033398224X/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1372540900&sr=1-2 the Snail and the Whale and I think it might be my favourite. The imagery and words are beautiful and transport me away around the world. Sigh :)

I think some of you need this book for all those with non-sleeping children. If you don't want to buy the book, there . {warning: do not click if you don't like the F word... }

We went to friends for tea tonight so DD didn't go down till 8:30, so a bit later than normal. I hope she'll be okay for a top up soon...

Good evening all x

Links fail! I'm blooming tired! The first one still goes to Squash and a Squeeze.

The Snail and the Whale is here.

We love 'tiddler the story-telling fish' by Julia Donaldson, bought because dd seems to now always go by the name of tiddler!

OMFG wing - best bedtime story ever, m%¥&r f%¥&r.
Now, let's all go the f*%k to sleep

Excellent book. I can already think of a few friends to buy it for!

Madams just up but having a very thrashy, bitey, graspy feed rather than a nice, settled sleepy one & I'm sitting in the nursery feeding her in the armchair & my back is agony all of a sudden. Not good! It was a good,long sleep though!

So after a day when DS fed slightly less than normal I expected an early wake for night feed. He thrashed his way out of the swaddle at not quite midnight so I just redid it and now I'm lying here with boulder boobs leaking everywhere and he's still out for the count... Sure if I go and express that will guarantee he wakes though... Argh! What to do?

pud what did you do?

That f---ing book is great isn't it Amazon kindly told me I had already bought it back in 2011 but it wasn't for myself so it must have been for someone as a gift. Can't remember who!

DD also loves Wimbledon. I suspect because it's a mostly static image with a bit of repetitive motion.

Good night here, feeds at midnight and four, and I only woke for the latter so got a good stretch of kip. She woke at six but I still refuse to get up that early. Fed at half past, fingers crossed she's gone back down. Burped a lump of milk up that splattered down me and onto the floor, first time that's happened. Generally it's the full stomach contents or nothing.

I've done it again. I've managed to hide this thread . Hit 'hide' instead of 'flip', so now I can only find it if I log out. Honestly, if I once had a brain I sure as h*ll haven't got it any more. Any ideas how I get it back????!!!! (the thread that is, not the brain, although help with that would be appreciated )

Think I may have had my very first post natal melt down last night. Nothing to do with the tiddler (who is my perfect little person and solution to all bad days), it's just the sht I went through last year. I can forgive, and move on, and be happy, but just sometimes I can't forget, and it hurts like hll. Baby steps huh....

Worse, have a and a hug. I think you've been amazing. Everyone's allowed to run out of cope occasionally. Don't worry about it.

I went and dripped into a bottle hand expressed a little and put together DSs top up bottle. When I came back he was stirring very slightly so I shamelessly opened the door and let light while looming over him and waited til he woke up and fed. Went back down at about 5.25 and woke 8.10. Which is pretty good.

Mind you, I already have managed to get exasperated with dh. I was exhausted last night so trundled to bed at 9.50. He not only stayed up watching the Stones at Glastonbury til midnight, he didn't even bother to hit record for me (selfish/thoughtless - I'd thought we'd catch one of the repeats together somewhen). He's been more tired than me recently, so if I hear so much as a peep of complaint over next few days about how knackered he is, i might just explode.

Anything you want to talk about, worse? As for unhiding a thread, no idea.

I think if you press 'watch' it may override 'hide' and will then be in your threads on watching? Does the thread not now appear on the threads I'm on list? Annoying :(

worse, as stormy says, offload here if you feel the need. We are non-judgemental y'know

pud sounds like your plan worked then :) I'm sure the Stones whole set will be on iplayer as I bet lots of people will have missed it and the BBC spent ages trying to agree terms with the Stones x

worse congratulations on making this far without a melt down. You were due one so that's ok. But it probably doesn't feel very ok. Sending Norfolk seaside sunshine love. Sorry you're being a bit haunted. Let rip if you need to. And also have a walk.

Worse come on duck, we're all here to lean on and support each other. If you need to, you know we'll listen.

Wing I may have found myself saying go the fuck to sleep just now to DS.

Wimbledon and f1 are big hits with the little fella in this house. Just as well seeing as they're big hits with the big fella too. I read a MN thread about telly and babies yesterday and immediately felt myself to be a bad parent. My LO watches maybe 1.5 hours a day while I eat, clean etc. it's a last resort once the magic of the bouncer and increasingly boring baby gym has worn off. Apparently this is too much so I've another thing to feel guilty about.

Pud it might stay on the red button for a few days, or could be on iplayer. I saw about ten mins of the set and just wished they'd done it ten years ago iykwim.

DS is having a full on grump. Won't be cuddled, won't be sat down, laid down or just left alone. I suspect teeth.

vj just express enough to be comfy

Wing We saw the snail & the whale at the egg last week.

worse watch will override hide I do it all the time

We will watch the stones on I player later anything after 9 is too late for me

plonko don't panic too much about the tv. He gets plenty of human interaction too, doesn't he? And if you give him something to play with and talk to him while cleaning etc at least he's not just totally vegetating in front of the box. He'll be fine so long as the telly isn't a permanent parental substitute.

Worse I did this a few weeks ago & it took me an age to figure out why it had disappeared. If you go to customise (top left somewhere under talk) you can unhide it in there.

Madam did really well in her cot, 9.30-3 then 3.30-6.15. I however didn't do so well & kept having to check on her. It turns out I'm not ready for her to be in her own room. I realised if anything happened to her before 6 months I'd always regret it & I like having her close. I say all this now but if her sleeping is rubbish in our room I'll reconsider as then I'll see so,e benefit for her. I really didn't expect to feel like that & was looking forward to having our bedroom back for us! What a bloody wimp!!!

Wow I've missed a lot. You've all been very busy! I'll power through -

I've never seen a circumcised one either, very sheltered really, only been with OH, high school sweethearts (who went to different schools).

Mini-thing's tips are pretend to cry so you get attention, put fingers in your mouth as soon as the bottle leaves so it's really difficult to put the bottle back in and play DM and DF off on one another - laugh and chat to DF all the time so DM spends all week doing the silliest things to get you to do the same. Very attention-seeking baby here.

plonko I can't get DS to stop watching tele when I'm trying to feed him. Sometimes he'll lie quite calmly next to me so we can watch a film together. Just need to remind him in between that I'm his real mum, not the tele

We all went shopping yesterday and spent a fortune on books for DS and all the Game of Thrones books for me. We'll be sitting side by side with our noses buried in the pages before long or the pages in his mouth. Whichever

Sorry ladies, I was just having a moment. Been for a walk, hugged the worselet, and thanked my lucky stars for all I have. For life is pretty good all told. It sucked for a while, sure.... but that was then, and this is now, and self has been given a good kick.... up the backside... so we're fine

Ah the mini-worse rules for breaking your parents...

Best one to date - do not under any circumstances, ever, get up when they want you to.

Either wake with the birds (and thus ruin mummy's beauty sleep), or lie with eyes steadfastly closed, legs in the frog position and mouth jammed shut feigning both sleep and lack of hunger until late morning. This latter tactic is best implemented on vaccination days, as it will allow you to maximise potential screaming in public time when they cruelly take you out unfed. Extra points are awarded for a really special nappy in the Dr's surgery.

SoYo I tried customise, and still couldn't work it out I am fick. I will try 'watch', unless anyone can give me idiot proof step by step unhide that thread instructions!!!

plonko worselet and DH are both addicted to startrek. She likes the bright colours and slow movement. He has no excuse. They both watch it with a disturbing level of concentration. I hope said addiction wears off with time

VJ another one saying just express off enough to be comfortable, rather than draining it down. You have to do this for longer than you might think, or you will get the dreaded blocked duct thing I had a couple of days ago.

Beautiful sunny day today. Tiddler is alseep, DH is being very kind after the full on rant I gave him earlier, so I'm going for a swim and a sunbathe, and a 'forget'. The perfect afternoon in other words. Hope you all have something fun lined up too.

Right, go to customise & scroll to the bottom. There's a header called ignore threads in active conversations and an option to click here. It take you to the next page & hidden threads is the third option down. This thread should be listed there and you can click to show it again.

worse what a trooper! Your melt down was about three days shorter than mine short lived. The sun and a walk cure many things.
soyo I thought I'd decided yesterday:cot next door in her room with our doors both open but I too have wimped out. So having assembled the cot in the nursery we have to dismantle it and start again in our room. Dh thinks me slightly crazy. I agree it was the 'what if?' thing that made me change heart. I'm very risk averse in normal life so no surprise.
plonko interesting you mention tv. Dh and I just discussing this today having read a recommendation by American society of paeds in a mumsnet book.
We headed to wells and holkham today and had lovely long walk paddling as we went. Now in bath getting rid of sand and feeling that slightly leathery fuzzy headed way you feel after a day on a sunny beach. Anyone else head out?

Thanks SoYo you're a star. All fixed

I've had a strangely enjoyable evening, given we got home from a walk to find water pouring through the ceiling and the kitchen flooded. There is something about a bit of crisis management that is actually quite fun.