March 2013 - gurgles, giggles and going on holiday (for some of us at least!)

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Eco we moved her into her own room this week. Be warned- it's totally exhausting... Just that extra getting out of bed seems to have killed me this week, maybe because it means I really struggle to get back to sleep.

soyo I can confirm that despite positive thinking the good sleep fairy isn't catching.

Ah, phone hadn't updated those two latest posts. soyo sorry the good sleep fairy is both not catching and somewhat ephemeral. Bah.
It seems like (using statistics in a terribly irresponsible way what with the sample size of two) now is the time for moving into own room then. soyo your travel cot idea might just be the inspired solution we need as an interim measure.
What do people think about the recommendation of six months? Great in theory but hell in practice I suspect? Really torn here.
And....
Bloody birds.
So cheerful and happy to be awake.

Eco - I tried a couple of times before now but it was too soon and DD didn't seem settled but i've had her in her own room for the last two nights and she is sleeping better than ever (and I don't get woken by the sound of a moses basket being thumped by a rogue arm and leg). I make them right about keeping them in with you as long as possible but I think a bit of intuition tells you when the time is right. I've literally had a different baby since Wednesday (National Thumb Awareness Day) and she has barely cried at anything. Finally, it all seems OK! Sh*t - i've jinxed it now...

I've joined the twenty first century and got a smart phone so I can join you lot at silly am. We just had a rear end eruption.

Own cot here at six weeks, in own room. Worried about breathing a lot at first but never check on her as the door handle squeaks and she's a light sleeper. We're trying the sleeping bag now as the swaddle pod is soggy. Fingers crossed...

Had more to reply to but am having memory fail so it can wait until the laptop later.

Any DD used to feed 20 mins on one side but the past couple of weeks she us down to 5-7 mins then a burp break then the same on the other side. She's lasting now much longer between feeds so I think I was overdoing the 'keep them on one side till it's empty' advice and never giving her enough which is why she'd feed more regularly. Hindsight, eh? So I'm saying don't worry if she appears to spend less time feeding - they become more efficient and so do the boobs.

eco (I think it should be LOs btw!), DD is still in the Moses basket next to my bed, in a grobag. But that's because she can still fit in it. She's younger than some of yours, 13 weeks yesterday and 3 calendar months today so she can still fit in it. As soon as it becomes a squash and a squeeze (name that cultural reference!), she'll be in her own room in the cotbed. We're off on holiday on Friday and I'm thinking of taking the basket to put into the travel cot they provide as she may not settle and I don't want to take any chances.

Sorry to those of you who haven't has good nights :(

Morning all.

Leni so I'm not a dimbat! Yay.... thank you . DH thought the melted gummee ring incident was highly hilarious. Even min-worse (the traitor) laughed (although to be fair she just laughs every time she looks at daddy.... which is understandable). I'm with you on the breathing paranoia too. If I confessed as to the number of times I 'just check' on the tiddler in the night it is entirely possible I might come across as unhinged. So I won't....

Eco Piles? What piles? Speaking of baby geniuses, SIL has sent me a Cambridge Uni sleep suit! Think she has the worselet pinned as the next Ruth Lawrence over my dead body

On the sleeping poll, her maj is in a cot next to me, and probably will be until she is 5 years 6 months. The upside of this is I can check on her breathing without getting up. The downside, she keeps me awake for about 90% of the night. I have been known to sneak off to the spare room at 4am and leave her in DH's capable care, just to grab a couple of hours of kip.

Fun packed weekend ahead - country show, and an open gardens thingummy. Makes us sound a bit landrover and hunter wellies doesn't it?! Which we're not. Although I do keep collies

eco ds is in his cot in our room, we never used a basket. Dd3 was with us until 2.2 and we aim for at least a year or even 2 with ds due to share rooms with dd3 we will all rotate rooms.

Squash and a squeeze = Julia Donalson!

wing the gruffalo? At this of the morning? And LOs! Quite! And you have just encouraged me to figure out how to get two caps in a row on my phone. Bit of a faff.
My man has just left for Cambridge so we two have a day of weekend adventures ahead. This will doubtless involve the latest round of how to splatter the reusable nappies with poo most liberally and maybe a little scratching mum's boobs.
Mum's best friend gave us a pink 1950s vintage matinee coat to remind us of mum born 1945. We have now had it box framed so today we will get the drill out to hang it. Best done when papa not here.
We finally got the copy of our delivery medical notes yesterday that we requested. Fascinating Reading.
Thanks for all the bedroom vs nursery feedback. I will decide today because the baby is developing a banana shared curve.
Have a lovely start to your Saturday everyone.

eco it should be LOs or L.O.s strictly speaking.

I've never seen a circumcised one either, except in porn. So I have no idea what a cut flaccid one is like.

Sleeping bag experiment went well. Did an hour and a half, squeaked a bit, then another hour. No clue if she was awake or asleep for that last hour though.

It occurs to me I've been formatting posts to be eye friendly on a much larger screen than this. Apologies if some of my posts have therefore looked like giant walls of text. Right, now to actually read everyone else's posts. I need a better memory!

Oh, and it did say not to heat sterilise the teething ring somewhere in the bumf that came with the glove! I remember reading and thinking well, this thing's just never getting sterilised.

So, I sensed DM and DF are finally at breaking point, the word bottle keeps coming up and letting me cry a bit and my constant pooing while helping to delay the inevitable may now be adding to the issue. So I decided to throw them a curve ball last night and feed and sleep beautifully during the day (1- 2 hour sleep, 1 -1.5 hour sleep and a 30 min nap pre my bedtime routine) go down at 7, dream feed at 11 (I set my baby watch) and waited patiently in my cot til 7am when I made cute cooing sounds, see I told you I could sleep! Tonight I intend to wreck havock then have then questioning what they did right .... Any more tips on how to create havoc other mini's? my favourite to date are wriggling and pulling on mummy's boob, throwing up as soon as muumuu gets dressed on her top and down her boobs ( she is very lazy my mummy and sometimes this can be as late as lunchtime, sometimes I swear she hasn't read Gina properly herself!), getting my feet in my poo (always gets a great reaction), trembling my lower lip, pretending to sleep for 5 mins then then cycling my legs about faster than sir Chris hoy like I have cramp, squealing like I am being tortured when put in the awful car seat so i cant see where I am going crappy blo#%y cosi they call it, cosi my arse its child torture! I stopped doing all those things yesterday just to prove I can do it and now have loads more energy today for havoc ... Any mini's out there have some additional tips to help me make the most of my day!

Ps my daddy is circumcised but my db got out of it as DM put her foot down ( down where I don't know but that what she said) "no unnecessary operations here", and so db has all his bits intact. Mini Eco, the cot is cool, I hated the basket and have been in my cot since week 2. Lovely place, can see out and plenty of room to move about off the sensor pad and give DM and DF a fright in the night!

Minieig you are wise. But there is more to learn! I'd suggest screaming when you're naked so she hastens to dress you and then screaming louder when she dares to put clothes on you. They flippin hate that. Another good one is refusing breast milk from a bottle just when they've got confident. I'd suggest waiting til they put 5oz in the bottle. They seem to have a world war two preoccupation with wasting things. Also, hold your poo in until you have a clean nappy on. Better still wait until she's just clasped you into the maxi crap. My hot tip for driving her demented is to hold a steely glare with her all day and then beam and giggle when dad gets back. That sends them loopy. Just having a think for anything else.... A good kick when you have your breakfast feed is good actually. Preferably to the sore engorged boob.
I suspect the other minis will have some tips for you. I'm just a 13 week old rooky.

Mini LaLa here - my favourite trick is swiping mum's face with my nails (which I refuse to have cut, and I wiggle so much mum worries she'll cut off my fingers and gives up ) and laughing. I'd also recommend straightening your legs out every time she tries to get you to sit over her leg for a burp - really annoying!

This morning when daddy came home I pretended to be asleep but with my eyes half open so daddy thought something was wrong with me, then when he touched my arm I suddenly stuck my legs in the air and gasped in horror! It was pretty hilarious

Mini-Yo checking in. My favourites are just when Mummy's relaxing into a boob feed pulling my head back sharply with nipple still in mouth, it makes her make a really funny sounds & then the air turns a funny colour (I think they call it blue). Also when she puts you down at night out the angelic sleepy face on with the arms up (classic sleepy pose number 1) but keep one eye half open & wait until you hear her hit the bottom step....now roar & put on your best 'you left me' face. That kills them! On top of thus there's always thrashy feeds, kicks & scratches, massive vomits & well timed poo explosions but always remember to follow this up with your best 'I love you mummy' face & a giggle to ensure maximum love. Time to cause havoc babies, good luck. Mini-Yo out.

Sorry to interrupt the cuteness but I love that this is in the middle of a PN thread

So I have no idea what a cut flaccid one is like.

Babyoods advice thread- to ensure maximum bed space ensure you go to sleep in mummy's bed but refuse to touch mummy. This ensures a large space as you can't lay next to the edge.

MiniKF here. My favourite is when i do a big fart and mummy and daddy think i do a poo. I fool them. My best moment is when i pee on my mummy and daddy but once i got my aim wrong and peed in my own mouth. THAT was not funny. At the moment i refuse to go sleep. Sleep is for wimps!

More advice from babyood.
Daddy's dont have milkie they just taste yack :( even worse was that my big sister had tried to get daddy milk and didn't tell me it was yack :(

Babyodd you are wise. We went to a party with two gay dads. I figured one of them must have the milk, I went for one with the biggest manboobs ( he called them moobs!) they were bigger than my mummies but no milk at all über dissappointing!

What is flaccid? Mummy doesn't know either! If I google it will the CIA be on to my mummy!

Mummy has got it now, just being slow, blames her lack of sleep!

eig I like the notion that you've never come across a flaccid Willy before. Makes you sound well vampy!

Meanwhile our trip to fave cafe in city thwarted. Closed for a wedding. Currently feeding in car in car park. Nice. How dare people get wed.

God I leave you lot alone for 5 minutes...

I have never seen a cut one either even in porn sheltered life obv.

MiniPud says his top tips are screaming at boobs, arching back away and generally melting down until straightened up whereupon it is imperative to make it clear that starvation is imminent while holding any burps in at all costs.

Also, when refusing your bottle, be sure to do it by smiling constantly so that it doesn't stay in and no nasty formula passes your lips. This makes them cross but is also very cute so is largely forgiven.

I've seen all sorts of shapes, sizes & amounts of skin but only when catheterising them & then they're nearly always flaccid!

Anyway, we've been really slack with bedtimes recently & I think we've been letting LO get overtired which makes it all so much harder, so we're reinstating bedtime starting tonight. My aim is for 7pm but thought I'd start with aiming for 8.30 then gradually work backwards. We're bathed, massaged, read to & now feeding in the nursery before aiming to transfer into the big-girl cotbed. Wish me luck!!!

Fail. She was fast asleep in cot at 8.20. Huge mega screamy fit 20mons ago. 2 transfer fails since.